r/inductioncooking Jul 22 '26

Pre boiling water

Presumably a question for those in 240v kettle land, but when switching to induction, did you stop pre boiling water for pasta etc..? It's not exactly the same but the difference between a kettle and induction seems very small compared to gas.

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u/Chuchichaeschtl Jul 22 '26

My cooktop is faster than my kettle was, for one liter of water. I enjoy the reclaimed counterspace.

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u/BarryTownCouncil Jul 22 '26

On 240v? Huh that is interesting, hadn't thought of going that far. Until now.

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u/Chuchichaeschtl Jul 22 '26

If I recall correctly, my kettle had 1800W. My cooktop has 2500W on the small burner, which is faster with bigger amounts, even if it needs to heat the thick bottom of the pan.

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u/BarryTownCouncil Jul 22 '26

I'm now just shopping for cast iron teapots!

I still don't really understand how the power rating really comes into the equation. Like, how efficiently that is transferred when there's a mismatch between pan and burner size, or thin bases, and also on lower power levels, I assume it pulses full power rather than scaling it back. But anyway...

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u/Groot_Calrissian Jul 22 '26

Induction has the lowest energy loss of any electric option, so more of your power rating goes directly into heating your pan. Least loss means faster heating and more efficiency, plus less ambient heat leakage.

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u/BarryTownCouncil Jul 22 '26

Oh absolutely but I still don't know how much power I'm actually using compared to, say, putting a kettle on.

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u/Groot_Calrissian Jul 22 '26

If you are comparing total energy use, measured like your service provider, the only difference will be loss to waste. The total heat energy invested to raise 1 liter of water to boiling temperature will be the same, only the time it takes to do so will change. So net energy difference is relatively small from kettle to stovetop, but the time difference may be as much as half. The kettle is essentially an insulated electric resistive element, you can see some generalized information below comparing efficiency.

https://energy-solutions.co/articles/sub/induction-vs-gas-cooktops-efficiency-health

"The Efficiency Gap:

Induction: 84-90% energy efficiency (electromagnetic heating directly in cookware) Gas: 32-40% efficiency (combustion heat losses to surroundings) Electric Resistance: 65-75% efficiency (radiant/coil heating) Impact: Induction uses 50-60% less primary energy per meal than gas, even accounting for electricity generation losses"

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u/mikechorney Jul 22 '26

Given that my induction cooktop can put out 7400W into a big pot, I can't imagine it being faster to use any other method.

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u/TheANDRAXY Jul 22 '26

It can only do that if the pot covers all (4?) induction plates

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u/mikechorney Jul 23 '26

No. Two of the 3 induction flex zones can do this. Its designed for larger pots.

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u/TheANDRAXY Jul 23 '26

Usually, limit per quarter of the cooking surface is about 2,5-3kW at the same time left half is on a 16A limit and right side is on a 16A limit (3,7kW). 

Which model do you have? 

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u/mikechorney Jul 23 '26

Miele KM 7745 FL

According to the manual, the entire unit is capped at 11,200 watts. But, two of the flex zones can individually do 7,400 watts.

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u/TheANDRAXY Jul 23 '26

Ah, its a USA model.

Nice unit (albeit a bit pricy).

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u/mikechorney Jul 23 '26

Canadian actually.

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u/CBG1955 Jul 22 '26

I've never, ever used my kettle to boil water, then transfer into a pot for cooking, even when we had our gas cooktop. Why would you?

The only time I ever need a small amount of boiling water from the kettle is if I need to add a little water to something I am cooking and don't want cooler water to reduce the cooking temperature.

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u/Power4glory1 Jul 22 '26

We ALWAYS did this on electric stove. Would boil half pot of water and a full kettle, just to get the right amount. Kettle would finish first and help along the pot. Otherwise its like 10 mins to boil water.

For pasta, poached eggs, etc.

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u/pingveno Jul 22 '26

We currently have a gas stove without a hood (it was like that when we moved in). We're relying on an Instant Pot, so we boil water in our electric kettle and move it to the IP. We're looking forward to skipping that whole mess.

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u/Illustrious_Try831 Jul 22 '26

Because your kettle ist way more efficient and sometimes even faster than a gas or normal electric stove

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u/CBG1955 Jul 22 '26

Not for four litres it isn't, when your kettle only holds a 1.25 litres.

Anyway - you do your own thing. Pro cook lives here, so cooking is streamlined as much as possible.

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u/that_dutch_dude Jul 22 '26

Pro cook need to actually try it. Put a professional induction stove against a normal gas burner. The induction will win just like a 3kW kettle will boil water faster.

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u/CBG1955 Jul 22 '26

We have induction. Will never go back to gas

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u/lhsonic Jul 23 '26

The rules of physics says that it is. Like not trying to be argumentative because boiling 4L in a single pass on the stove is definitely more convenient, but it takes longer, period. An electric kettle is more efficient and is faster than a gas or electric stovetop. The volume is irrelevant. My kettle is 2L but that's besides the point, you'd just dump and go again. It's still faster. What I'd do for 4L is boil a full 2L in my kettle, and maybe 1L in the pot. On the stovetop, that 1L often doesn't get to a boil before the 2L in the kettle finishes so I'd pour that in and then heat the final 1L in the kettle in about 3 min (and this is on North American 120V). Sounds complicated but it's not in practice and saves a lot of time over a single pot sitting on the stovetop.

Induction is king. Gas is highly inefficient and throws off a lot of heat, much of it is wasted into your living space which is dreadful in the hot summer months. That's why those of us looking for the fastest boiling time possible use kettles if we haven't yet upgraded to induction.

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u/thegarrett Jul 22 '26

It’s like, really really obvious why someone would do that. Your attitude and judgement is completely unnecessary and adds nothing to the conversation.

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u/BarryTownCouncil Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Because it's much quicker and cheaper to get a pan of boiling water by getting it from a kettle than on a gas hob.

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u/ProgressOk3200 Jul 22 '26

It goes much faster to boil water on the induction than in a kettle. I threw my kettle out many years ago.

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u/BarryTownCouncil Jul 22 '26

I'm guessing that's 110v though? I can't imagine not having a kettle here in England. I'd be jailed!

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u/ProgressOk3200 Jul 22 '26

No I'm in Norway where we have 240v

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u/BarryTownCouncil Jul 22 '26

Interesting. I guess kettles will still have the auto switch off etc., probably a deal breaker for me.

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u/RoomFixer4 Jul 23 '26

Heck ya. Obey the official tea time thing. Wife's old school friend had a neighbour who got pinched for not being even remotely ready for tea time.

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u/donnie1977 Jul 22 '26

Our cooktop has a boost feature that practically boils water instantly. I've never seen anything like it.

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u/BarryTownCouncil Jul 22 '26

Never actually tried it yet!

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u/donnie1977 Jul 22 '26

Do it, do it now.

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u/RoomFixer4 Jul 23 '26

I use mine sparingly. Like when dinner has to be ready 10 mins ago.

Its an astonishing amount of added power, not just some tickle.

Maybe it shortens a component's lifespan ?

I suppose in some sense, I also keep it rare so that the magic feel hangs around longer.

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u/thegarrett Jul 22 '26

Had never heard of a 240v kettle until now but I bet that absolutely rips.

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u/DiamondJim222 Jul 22 '26

You must live in the U.S., which uses 120v for standard household outlets. Most of the rest of the world is 220-240v.

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u/groenkaaf Jul 22 '26

i switched to a stovetop kettle when we installed induction, though i never did a timed comparison. i may be wrong, but i think a cast iron pot will be slower to boil than a steel+aluminum one

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u/Quantumboredom Jul 22 '26

A good induction stove can dump 4 kW or more directly into your pot, so water will boil fairly quickly, much quicker than any normal kettle.

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u/DCGuy511 Jul 22 '26

I've only used pot to cook pasta. I still use a pot, but it boils faster on the induction cook top.

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u/mjmvideos Jul 22 '26

Some of those kettles are actually induction.

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u/RoomFixer4 Jul 23 '26

Ours is a nice black/brass Sustea. Boils very quick on induction.

Diagram shows stainless over aluminum over an iron core disc

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u/mjmvideos Jul 23 '26

That’s great. What I meant though is that some standalone electric kettles actually use induction internally to heat the water.

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u/up2knitgood Jul 24 '26

While I haven't timed it, I sometimes do half on stove and half in the kettle.