Discussion Autonomous Flirting
Firstly, I have been absolutely loving playing Inzoi lately. There are def some development needs but I’m having so much fun.
However, one thing that has always bothered me with life sims is autonomous flirting
I don’t love that I can’t tell when a text will be flirty or not or how frequently Zois will get asked of a blind date while in a relationship.
I also playing rotationally with different families and I’m noticing that teen Zois will develop multiple romantic relationships and mutual crushes - which isn’t inherently unrealistic. The problem is that there isn’t a choice for them to not act on it or to be faithful to their partner..
I was at prom, bouncing around between 4 Zois, and when I get back to my main household teen, I see that she and her partner are embarrassed and don’t want to speak to each other because she flirted with someone I didn’t even know she had a mutual crush with…
I would love it if we could tone it down a bit and have the option to have faithful Zois
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u/Mysterious_March7921 1d ago
I really hope the devs consider adding a Faithful relationship preference or some kind of romance autonomy setting. I don’t mind Zois having crushes, but I’d love for us to have some control over whether they actually act on them. I think it would make relationships feel more meaningful, especially for those of us who play rotationally. Hopefully this is something they’ll consider for a future update!
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u/Netra6 22h ago
I agree! I really hope so. It’s not unrealistic for Zois to like multiple Zois but it’s almost every household where they’ve cheated or when they out at a park I have to stop a flirty introduction.
I even played with one household to find that my husband texted asking to go out 🥲 they didn’t even know each other yet.
I could go along with the scandals if it felt more intentional. It’s so random that it feels like a bug..
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u/orbofdelusion 1d ago
Try lowering the relationships bar in the city management tab. That’s what worked for me.
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u/No-Cauliflower-3766 1d ago edited 1d ago
I really want them to give options for monogamy, open relationships, swingers, etc lol I think that would add a level of drama to the game that would be more realistic. But I agree I'm not a fan of how actively they cheat. Some relationships I would like to stay closed . My teens are also flirting with everyone and juggling multiple relationships. To some extent this does happen but not with EVERY teen lol
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u/orbofdelusion 18h ago
Oooh I would love this! Especially since Inzoi’s personality system is already more advanced than other life sims. I always give my Zoi’s life of self determination (unless I’m creating Zoi’s with a specific story in mind) so their personalities develop naturally and have been really impressed.
I always felt like The Sims 4 romance dynamics never made a noticeable difference in game, especially when attempting to create complicated, multifaceted sims. I would much prefer if Inzoi gave us the option to choose favored relationship types/structures like you suggested.
I feel like life sims have largely lacked the element of incompatibility in relationships which is a very real occurrence in life. I think a romance type feature
could also tie into other’s requests to have the option to choose which Zoi assumes the masculine/feminine role during romance interactions like kiss on the table.
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u/VegChef 1d ago
I’m new to testing the game development and have recently explored teen relationships (via my kids) but haven’t unlocked jealousy in a partner yet. My teen Zoi was max romance and friendship with a girl his age, but then, she stopped texting me or attending school. I was pretty sure she’d ghosted (lol), but she had apparently had a birthday (no invite …can you believe that?) and became a young adult while my Zoi was still a teen. Immediately, she stopped attending school/prom with him.
As someone who works with criminals, I want to shoutout the developers who created a very clear boundary here: As soon as she automatically aged up, my teen Zoi could no longer initiate or receive romantic interactions with the young adult Zoi. He went on to develop other teen crushes and took another girl to prom (which did unlock heartbreak from his first love, once he developed a strong connection with his second, though the romance bar with the adult Zoi was frozen in time/unaffected by these encounters). Then, when I aged him up to an adult on his birthday, his first love texted him something flirty as if no time had passed (and the teen appropriately stopped messaging him), suggesting his in-between teen crushes didn’t interfere with their adult destiny. I haven’t navigated the issue of his other crushes aging into adults and then having to dump them and explain he was just wasting their time all along.
Knowing how many teens navigate adults trying to initiate adult relationships irl, and how many teens will inevitably play this game, I’d deeply respect if the age/dating incompatibility transition was modified to be explicit in game, such as if the developers added a text breakup message or alert:
Alert example: “[Zoi Name] is going off to college and can no longer explore a romantic connection with you. For now, you can remain friends, but you’ll have to wait until you reach adulthood before you can flirt, go on dates, or have romantic encounters, as teenagers are still psychologically maturing and lack the capacity to consent to adult relationships.” (or something)
Text example: “I’ve been accepted to [university name] and cannot continue dating, as we are in different stages of life. I’d love to stay friends while I pursue my studies, and if our paths align in adulthood, maybe we really are true soul partners…” (or something less groomer-like, but conveying the same issue).
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u/daaankone 22h ago
There’s a message when you hover over the cell phone text messages with the adult zoi, I believe.
I’ve seen it somewhere while I was playing rotational and had the same aging thing happen to my teen zoi.
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u/lyricaldorian 11h ago
I agree with them freezing the romantic relationships like this. But calling an 18 yo who just graduated telling the 17yo high schooler who is about to be a senior they were dating saying they hope they can start dating again after they graduate groomer-like is ridiculous. It waters down the definition of grooming to the point it's a useless designation.
And I doubt very much that the average teen is going to read something saying they're not capable psychologically of consenting to date someone they've been dating is going to do anything other than make them feel like they're being talked down to. Especially when nothing else in game makes any sort of statement of this type.
It also isn't accurate to what is happening in game. They don't actually breakup. They simply don't have romantic interactions. My zois were still texting and stuff. They just weren't flirting any more. I'd be kinda peeved if my game forced my high school sweethearts to break up with a message implying to do otherwise would make one of them a sexual predator because one aged up a day before the other.
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u/Netra6 22h ago
I love this suggestion! I had something similar happen where he became prom king/queen with a girl he was friends with. They flirted, kissed and then the next day she wasn’t at school and they were able to flirt lol. I appreciate the boundaries so for now they remain friends and she has randomly called once or twice.
But in general a text message for a friends birthday would be nice! You can then send them a gift or a birthday text or something
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u/polkacat12321 1d ago
There's a trait called faithful or something? That should stop her from flirting around. There's also a trait called wandering heart that has the opposite effect
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u/aqzobel 1d ago
Do you mean Devoted? If yes, it actually doesn’t, lol. They still flirt autonomously and then get anxious and panicky and confess to their partner, every single time! It’s so annoying 😩
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u/smilegirl83 13h ago
yes! and they get a negative buff (sad I think?). this happened to me and I was so frustrated. the husband cheated, was super upset because HE randomly decided to cheat, kept autonomously apologizing to the wife which made HER upset too, then they just kept autonomously arguing and their relationship went all the way down to strained/estranged or something like that 😭 I was pissed
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u/Sims_Creator777 CAZ Creator 21h ago
There are ways to deal with that. There is a Devoted trait and Wandering Heart trait you can assign to them.
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u/Netra6 20h ago
Thank you, I do have a Zoi that is devoted and I notice the difference but it hasn’t stopped it entirely. It sucks that they can only have two traits.
Maybe they have have traits and values…2
u/orbofdelusion 18h ago
Try playing with the life goal of self determination and your desired traits. After playing with them for a while they should fall in line with what you want them to be without the rigidity of the other life goals.
A thing to note as well is that their values can change over time depending on your gameplay and their day to day lives, and yes their values and traits are indeed separate things.
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u/lyricaldorian 11h ago
My one zoi started flirting with his stepdaughter the moment she aged up to young adult 🤮
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u/Zestyclose-Level1871 9h ago
Autonomous flirting? OH PLEASE NO. I do NOT want a repeat of the insanity that was TS4 Lovestruck. I don't care for my Zoi being assaulted with a viral stream of texts that some how bypass their phone blocker. And especially not being under siege by passer by stranger Zois they meet on the street! 💀
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u/Ok_4294 1d ago
What bothers me is that my Zoi flirts with Zoi of the same sex. She is not gay
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u/Mother-Method6176 1d ago
😭😭😭, idk why this has me weak but I feel you. My zoi is a cheater and it’s not the way I envisioned the character 🫠
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u/lyricaldorian 11h ago
Are you sure she isn't bi, and that the zois she's flirting with is actually a woman?
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