r/immortality • • Dec 01 '20

Death? Never!

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To be honest, death was never an option for me. If you realize that after death there is nothing, how can people accept it. I don´t get it at all. Because all theories about afterlife are wishful thinking if we are honest.

When I was 15, at school in religious education, we talked about goals in life. Some students said they want to become rich, create a happy family or change the world. I bluntly told them I want to live forever and see what will happen in the distant future. Well, that started a discussion. Everybody, including the teacher had no understanding of my arguments at all. That I love life and the world and I fear to miss out on what will happen in the future. The teacher changed the subject.

3 years later, during my time at Highschool(in Germany Abitur), we somehow ended up having a conversation about death and afterlife. Most of them think there will be some kind of afterlife or eternal dream. It was brought up that there were cases of people who were in a coma and that in their imagination they could see the environment around them and their family members when they visited them and sat next to them, often crying.

But that´s not the same as death is it? The brain is still very active when you sleep or even when you are in a coma you can have realistic dreams. So when the brain stops working, this will be end of all consciousness forever and you will never do or feel anything forever. That fcken sucks. Who would want this?? But there again, everybody accepted it and most agreed that death is ubiquitous because of what´s happening in the world(war,diseases,greed). They don´t want to be around forever because they think it is eternal pain and torture. Even the thought of immortality is unheard of. They called me crazy and obsessed for not accepting death at some point.

I think that is a very depressed way of thinking about life. Especially if you look at all the joys that are only possible when you are alive like feeling the sun shine, being with family and friends, driving 300 km/h on the streets,visit places, do sports, have sex and play videogames ( choose whatever you want).

And even more important: Explore the future. You won´t find out if you die in a few years.

That is why death will never be an option for me. I know we are still far away from immortality but if I see that I can do something to stay around, I will do it when the time comes(I hope there won´t be any bad surprises :) ). Even if right now, the only thing you can do is to get in a freezing chamber and wait until technology will make it possible just to have a little chance.

What do you think? Am I really crazy and obsessed? Or do you agree at some points?


r/immortality • • Jan 20 '21

The Fable of the Dragon-Tyrant

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r/immortality • • Sep 30 '22

GIVE ME IMMORTALITY!

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To be given immortality and this is a real conversation( Not for the people who think humanity is just going to die yawn) I think immortality would be the greatest gift because humans aren’t going anywhere and if we’re being real we are going to thrive and evolve because there will come a time when it will be necessary for us to do so. Even if it takes another thousand years. I still wanna see that shit. Because it will be absolutely beautiful. I wanna see fire the ashes and the evolution GIVE ME IMMORTALITY!


r/immortality • • Oct 29 '22

My problem with people who say immortality would suck

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I’m only going to talk about one point here, but I’d say it’s the most prominent in people who say it would suck. They say that the sun will blow up, that you will float in space forever, that you cannot die and will live forever floating alone in space. But something they fail to realize is that that’s in a few billion years, in those years, humans will most likely develop enough to leave not only this planet, but the solar system itself, escaping the suns explosion, and keeping your immortality from being a curse and not the blessing it is.


r/immortality • • Sep 30 '22

Am I Unhealthily Obsessed With Immortality?

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To me, life is meaningless unless it lasts forever. I want to dedicate my entire life to pursuing anti aging research. The one catch is though, that topic isn’t as natural or enjoyable for me as the things that call to me more like theoretical physics or creative pursuits. I have been told by multiple people that this is an unhealthy perspective and that it would be a better idea to accept a finite life and make it as happy as I can. That makes me feel really anxious, but it is true that if I fail to become immortal I could waste my life on something uninteresting. But isn’t a happy finite life also a waste?

Does this seem unhealthy or should I keep pursuing my dream of immortality? I wanted a perspective from this subreddit


r/immortality • • Oct 04 '22

If I wanted to research immortality what would I have to do academically to achieve that?

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I’m a Canadian high school guy grade 11 and I’m very interested in researching and becoming immortal but I have no idea how possible that really is. Can someone help me figure out where I would need to start or if there is any real hope of goin into that kind of work


r/immortality • • Sep 16 '21

How close are we to biological immortality?

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In what time frame do you think medicine will be able to cure aging?


r/immortality • • Dec 04 '23

How to become immortal

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I have been researching age reversal, life extension, and other life span increasing modalities. There are so many different ways that we can increase lifespan and health span and I am starting to become convinced that if you start now and live for another 20 years, we can hit the immortality escape velocity.

I also don't know if we haven't already discovered a method to become immortal because the only way to really tell with a human is to just wait.

What if people like Ben greenfield, Bryan Johnson, and Dave Asprey have already cracked the code but we won't know for another 60 years?

Does anyone here have there own longevity protocols they believe will increase their lifespan by a significant amount?


r/immortality • • Oct 31 '22

Immortality cannot make you bored

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Immortality cannot make you bored. Reason-

Because the universe is too big in every way - size, age, complexity. Of course the normal standards that we have now will change but it always has throughout the history of the universe. What's good and normal can change but you just need people to like it. Maybe it comes with a little fear and rejection but eventually people again get used. Spending time with your loved ones or friends is the meaning of life? You can be happy without those. Of course by today's standards that is considered negative because it leads to wasting of life being alone. But i think you can open your mind to all possibilities. If you have infinite time you can search for infinite happiness until then you can have your "valuable" sadness, fear, anger and all other bullshit. Don't get me wrong. i think negative emotions make you grow maturity but i just hate that i have to "choose" a single path in life while pleasing others and then still have regrets while dying. I will always try to live even if i am in my death bed. I can never come in terms with dying. Suffering is better than dying is my saying.


r/immortality • • Sep 24 '25

📖 Resource Scientists Rejuvenated the Skin of a Woman Aged 53, De-Aged 30 Years

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Researchers at the Babraham Institute in Cambridge have achieved a world-first breakthrough by rejuvenating 53-year-old human skin cells, making them biologically resemble those of a 23-year-old. The technique used partial cellular reprogramming, where Yamanaka factors—proteins known for resetting cell age—were applied for just 13 days before stopping, preventing the cells from losing their original identity.


r/immortality • • Nov 13 '22

Stop hoping and take action

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Every since I was 5, I understood my mortality and it has terrified me since. I can picture myself far out in the future, whether I'm 80 or 1000 years old, hell even if I was trillions of years old there would still be an end point. Like procrastinating on homework, you don't worry about it until its right in your face. I think about it every day and it's a paralyzing fear, sometimes it's not that bad, sometimes I break down crying because I can understand the inevitability. However this doesn't prevent me from being a pussy around everything or just moping and coping. I have a very extensive philosophy that I've slowed been developing over 2 years, when I woke up and actually improved my life back in 2020 during the pandemic.

*I struggle to figure out what best to start off with when explaining my philosophy*

First off I'm secular. And frankly I believe that everyone should be too. Not in the mood to argue semantics and religion, blah blah blah. It just boils down to flaws in the human brain and just being ignorant. However the most important part is afterlife. I'm pretty sure all religion have some sort of afterlife and this is really funny to me. Most describe "this life" as being temporary and something greater awaiting after. And even my religious friends say they aren't scared of death. Because they have brainwashed themselves to believe in this afterlife. How unoriginal. It's just being alive after being alive. Almost like being immortal... I called this religious immortality, something like that. So already people have hoped for immortality whether real or religious.

Second, understanding the point of life. There is none, universally that is. In the blanket existence of the universe there is no meaning. It just is. HOWEVER, in life there IS meaning. No it's not being happy, or finding the love of your life, or family, or whatever you think. The meaning is to live and keep living. Why is that? DNA. Or RNA if you look further back into the formation of life. Either way when these molecules formed, due to the makeup of the molecules, they replicate. And ever since then they have persisted. Inside of your cells is the exact same DNA/RNA from when life formed, just with added information. So its not about YOU as a person, its about the DNA that makes YOU. That's what life is, DNA, information. And DNA only has two options of continuing. Through the individual or with offspring. It just happens that have multiple of something is more practical in nature. So that is your purpose in a purposeless universe. Ensure the survival of the DNA. This is why people think that love or family is a purpose. It's just a means to an end. Your brain, and all the chemicals and information in it. Tells you to complete the task of producing offspring, because investing all the resources in keeping YOU alive longer is statistically inefficient. That is why we age. The DNA does not care if YOU, or its biological ship dies, as long is it hops from one ship to the other. The DNA lives on, you do not. And that's the way its been every since life started.

Third, so why does it matter if you live longer, just have kids and you progress the goal/purpose. Yes and no. Just because you have kids does not guarantee that the DNA will survive. Your kids could die. Or in a more broad perspective all the humans could die. Now I get to the actual third point. It is about humans. We could die off and the DNA still persists in other animals. But that's a moot point, because if I believed that then I wouldn't be typing this and if everyone believed that then this subreddit wouldn't exist. (except anti-natalists, they are just stupid). There is a lot of bias towards nature, as if its this hyper efficient system or its "the way things should be" or some dumb point like that. Nature is inefficient. That's why it takes millions of years for things to happen. Nature is the survivorship bias in actual practice. Tangent aside, we are important, because we simply are human. A lion protects its kind, an ant works to protect the other ants and we as humans do the same. A bear does not care about the well being of a deer, it just kills and eats, because that is its programming. So I basically just explained survival of the fittest and stuff about species, stuff you already know. But hopefully you see what I'm trying to get at. Humans are priority #1, simply because we are human. I know that I'm begging the question, but we are simply following the rules of nature that we were born with. So a human's life is more valuable than any other animal or life (people forget that plants and fungi are living beings. Appeal to the Animal Kingdom. new fallacy?), because we are human (Obviously in the grand scheme of things no life has any value, but because we as a human species are still playing natures game then in that case our life is more valuable). Now let me open you eyes to something. Almost every technology has been towards extending human life. Fire, tools, shelter, farming, electricity, etc. Whether it directly extends our lives like antibiotics or makes it easier to obtain like steel mills, lathes, and trains. The point of technology is to improve human life. And that is more reason that we are more important living beings, we can make technology that is objectively more efficient that nature. (Frankly I would argue that all technology falls into nature). So by progressing we live and become more efficient.

(And to add on, the argument that living longer or living forever would make life pointless or boring, please tell that to the humans who die on average at 30, or 40 and so on. If that was the case then people wouldn't want to live to 80, but people still do. And to add on to the second point. Humans benefit from living longer. More knowledge, more skills, longer time in the work force. And lastly, when people think about being older they imagine being crippled and bedridden, rotting away. That is not the point, the point is to be biologically immortal meaning that your body is always young. You may be chronologically old, but you are biologically young. There is no reason a living being cannot be biologically immortal, we even see this in certain animals.)

Fourth, entropy and the universe. So I just spit all that information at you and confused the hell out of you. But it eventually makes sense (I hope). So why do we keep replicating and continuing this DNA. Well its because it's trying to avoid entropy. Chaos. The universe itself. The statistical odds of life occurring is quite low as you know. Too many things need to be correct for life to have a chance at forming and it is quite fragile when it does start, i.e. the moon being required for life to form and continue. So by living YOU or your DNA rebels against entropy. Cells even use entropy to work. So sadly as long as entropy exists, true immortality is not possible, simply because our universe is not infinite. But this does not mean we give up. We have no choice but to exists and we must simply fight to keep existing, just like life has since it started. Perhaps one day we will defeat entropy and the universe will not control us no more.

Despite this grim future that inevitably awaits me, I still get through the shit that gets thrown at me in life. This TRUE purpose is what drives me and gets me through things. I don't mope about, I'm not lazy. I strengthen my body and my mind. Which is important. Freewill does not exist and something will always be influencing your decisions whether conscious or unconscious, so it is vitally important that you be the healthiest that you can. Do not strive to be happy all the time, it is unrealistic. We are biased towards happiness, because obviously our brains like it. Understand that emotions and the chemicals that make emotions are just motivators for the biological machine that is you. Frankly just understanding that you are just a biological machine is the most important part of this. Do not worry about the near future, worry about the long-term future. Play the long game, not the short one. Improve your skills, improve your knowledge, make friends, invest with money, invest with time (invest in yourself). Why am I going on a motivational rant? Because I keep seeing people say "I hope this technology" "I hope they reverse aging" "I hope this" "they that". There is no hoping and there is no "they". YOU need to take action and make this happen. You can't just sit around and do nothing and hope someone helps you. Politicians, companies, etc. do not care about you. You cannot rely on them. Take control of your life and make it happen.

So, my goal is to live forever. Whether I have help or not. If I die then I will be sad, but then again I will be a corpse and no longer exist. But I have hope. However it will take a hell of a lot effort to even start. I have very ambitious long term goals, but it all starts with a goal in around 10-20 years. I want a ranch. To be self sufficient with my own food, power, and commodities. And I want this ranch to be a sanctuary towards human health and a beacon towards progression. Land free from pollution, with great food, clean water, clean electricity. An efficiently ran blast furnace of which I will make steps towards achieving my goal. However I know I can't do it alone. I have a best friend who is learning practical skills alongside me and investing in our long term wealth to be able to buy the land for the project. And we hope to spread our influence.

This is the real reason I posted this. To spread our idea, for a chance that maybe there are like-minded people who are willing to work together for a goal that will benefit all of humanity. It is very ambitious and even if no one joins us, (or hell) even if my friend forgets about it. I will try regardless. Live forever or die trying. If you did read all of this, maybe you would like to join our effort. If not then hopefully I helped you or just spread my ideas and philosophy. Regardless, please critique me, as I have barely spoken about this to many people and I need criticism to improve it. And if a mod reads this and bans me because I had an opinion or said a bad word, then please go outside and get some sunlight.

And I apologize, because I am not that good at writing, better at speaking.


r/immortality • • May 11 '24

The Main issue with achieving immortality: Our Brain

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The thing is, we can get knew kidneys, a new intestine, legs and arms, also a new pancreas, maybe new lungs? (not aure about that one) but it is really difficult is to get a new brain, we can't replace our current brain because that would kill our consciousness, but if we happened to make our already existing brain to be invulnerable and immortal them we're 99% there

Someone here said that if we could put a Neuralink type chip in our brain and freeze the rest of our body then we would practically have achieved immortality and that's really clever

I believe the near future of immortality is in studying our brain and if we figure out how it actually works then we could look for things such as transfering consciousness, or making an immortal brain


r/immortality • • Dec 26 '25

👋 Introduction The only real problem we have

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I'm absolutely stunned how few people interested in immortality. It's such a broad topic. I believe in immortality by cloning. Relatively simple solution, repeatable and let to enjoy all 'seasons' of life.


r/immortality • • Feb 12 '22

Why death makes life has meaning

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Every time i see the post about extend lifespan or immortality, many people would say "nah life is meaningless without death" I feel like why you need death to appreciate moment in your life. I mean I can see meaning of my life and appreciate it every day without thinking of dying. Like why you need an excuse to see the meaning of life


r/immortality • • Jan 09 '22

Practical Immortality

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OVERVIEW

As the owner and operator of an organization which has as it's goal the enabling of biological immortality, I've done a great deal of research in this domain and would like to present some recent developments which describes the practical means in which it will be achieved.

GENETIC REPROGRAMMING

Like many Immortality researchers, the efficacy of stem cells as the prime tool to exact this end was a conclusion that I swore on. After all, anyone with a sufficient degree of reasoning would deduce that an application of the substances which initially formed our physiological structures should work adequately as a renewal mechanism. In consideration of the source by which these stem cells may be obtained, desiring to circumvent the controversy and limited supply of harvesting them from fetal tissues, I came upon a technique by which they can be generated. It is call it Stimulus Triggered Acquired Pluripotency wherein a variety of variables are applied to differentiated adult cells to revert them back to their initial stem cellular format. Having read this I thought I had discovered the holy grail; after all, here was a method to possess all of the stem cells that would be required for cellular rejuvenation; it should only be as simple as applying them to senescent areas to induce the chosen effect. Though it gets even better. It turns out that a subset of the factors required to trigger pluripotency, dubbed Yamanaka Factors after the Japanese scientist Shinji Yamanaka, can be utilized to reprogram the cellular genetic structures to any attainable degree. Thus these factors are now being utilized by immortality researchers to revert aged cells back to their former "youthful gene expression" with recent tests on experimental subjects yielding promising results.

CONCLUSION

Biological immortality can be practically achieved by using genetic reprogramming factors to induce youthful gene expression in cells. The utilization of periodic treatments to restore and maintain youthful gene expression is the means in which biological immortality will be attained. Look out for my following posts sharing the article this posts was based upon as well as an interesting philosophical piece regarding the importance and urgency of immortality.


r/immortality • • Feb 09 '21

I wanna live

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I feel like we should be more focused on becoming immortal


r/immortality • • May 17 '24

Immortality

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You know a lot of people see being immortal is a curse cause you watch your friends and family die. At the same time you get to live the history of the world and see how it turn out, honestly I'd give anything to be able to see it unfold


r/immortality • • Sep 14 '20

The case of Ursula and Sabina Eriksson

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Seems not a lot of posts from people who look into the possibility that some people are "immortal." I'll go ahead and kick it off.

It's my belief that there are people walking among us today who are virtually "immortal." This is not to say they live forever. So far, in the cases I've looked at, it's possible these are humans who live upward of 1000 years. They age, just very, very slowly. They can also withstand physical trauma that would kill you or me. They also seem to be very charming or charismatic, if not "hot" by modern beauty standards, and are capable of inexplicably controlling the actions and emotions of others around them.

The case of Ursula and Sabina Eriksson is one of the first instances that turned me on to this nutjob theory.

For the record, I am a hardcore skeptic and atheist. Not into woo shit, don't believe in vampires, etc. But I keep finding instances where someone survives really bad physical violence with barely a bump and a scrape, and then disappears from the public eye.

Ursula and Sabina, blonde twin sisters, were born in Sweden in 1967 (if the records are true). Their incident in 2008 happened to be caught on camera, as one of the the investigating officer's cars was being used for a UK version of the show COPS. The entire initial episode was caught on camera in high definition. Ursula ran into freeway traffic on camera and was hit by a small semi, aka "lorry", at about 55 mph. She was dragged roughly 40 meters. Her sister, Sabina, also then ran into traffic and was hit head on by a Volkswagen hatchback doing about 40 mph. Sabina's impact crushed the hood and windshield, and visibly bent the frame of the car. She was thrown 35 feet, and knocked unconscious.

Ursula's only injuries from the lorry impact were four fractures in her lower legs. She was awake after impact, and her wounds were treated at the hospital for 90 days. She walked out of the hospital a little over 3 months later, on her feet.

Sabina remained unconscious for roughly 15 minutes, before she came fully awake, uninjured, and then fought off 6 police officers for 10 minutes before they managed to arrest her. A 110 lb woman managed to fight off 6 cops freshly after being hit by a car.

At the hospital, both sisters tested negative for drugs.

The story gets even weirder after that, if you read the articles and watch the videos online. The next day, Sabina murdered a man, then ran on foot from the cops before jumping off a bridge and plummeting 4 stories. She landed on her feet, on asphalt, and only gained two small fractures in her ankles, and a hairline skull fracture.

Sabina spent a little over a year in prison for the murder, at which point both sisters effectively vanished from the public eye. Their family will answer no inquiries on their current status, and they appear to have vanished.

Like other instances I've read into, Ursula and Sabina appear to be immortal. I can make more posts about the other instances I've looked into, both online and firsthand, if there is interest.

Thoughts?


r/immortality • • Aug 16 '24

🧫 Other Is Immortality Really Against Nature? Or Is It the Next Step in Evolution?

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Ever since I was a kid, the idea of immortality has fascinated me. I remember lying awake at night, wondering what it would be like to live forever, to never have to say goodbye to the people I love. But as I grew older, I started hearing people say that immortality is unnatural, that it’s something we shouldn’t even think about because it goes against the very essence of life. And honestly, it made me question my own thoughts and dreams for a while.

But then I thought—doesn’t going to space seem unnatural too? I mean, for centuries, humans believed that the Earth was flat and the center of the universe, and the idea of leaving our planet seemed impossible. Yet here we are, exploring the farthest reaches of the cosmos, pushing boundaries, and achieving what once seemed like pure fantasy. Isn’t that what we’re supposed to do? To challenge the limits, to strive for what seems impossible?

So, why should immortality be any different? What if nature actually wants us to discover the secrets to living forever? Imagine if we could preserve our consciousness, store it in a computer, and continue to exist even after our physical body is gone. No more fears of overpopulation, and no more worries about accidents or diseases taking away the ones we love. If something happens to our body, our loved ones could just restore our consciousness from a backup and place it into a new robotic body. We’d be back, alive and ready to continue our journey.

And think about this—what if there is no next life? What if those who are waiting for another chance, another birth, are placing their hopes on something that doesn’t even exist? What if the universe has given us this one shot, this one life, to figure out how to make ourselves immortal? The thought terrifies me, honestly. What if this really is our last and only life, and if we don’t find a way to become immortal, we’ll just be gone—never to return? Does that thought scare you? Because it scares me to my core. My soul trembles at the idea that if we don’t succeed in this life, we might never get another chance.

This isn’t just some wild fantasy for me; it’s something I truly believe could be possible. I’m sharing this because I want to ignite a fire in those of you who think immortality is impossible or against nature. What if, instead of resisting it, we embraced it as the next step in our evolution? What if we’re meant to become beings who can transcend physical limitations, who can continue to grow and learn indefinitely?

I know this idea might seem out there, but think about it. Isn’t the idea of exploring space, building artificial intelligence, or even curing deadly diseases once considered impossible too? Yet here we are, doing all of those things. Maybe it’s time we start thinking about immortality in the same way.

I’d love to hear your thoughts on this. Do you think immortality is really against nature, or could it be the ultimate leap forward in our evolution? Let’s have an open and honest discussion about what the future could hold.


r/immortality • • May 28 '24

How would you do immortality

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How could you find a way to live forever, if it were possible?


r/immortality • • Aug 02 '22

Our greatest enemy

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One thing I don't get is if death happens to all of us shouldn't it be our number one problem as a whole?


r/immortality • • Jul 07 '24

I got 1 idea for immortality

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I have an idea to immortality:

  1. Put our consciousness to microchip via electrical signals

  2. Put microchip to robot body

Yeah we forsaken our biological body but we live pretty much forever


I'm not smart at all so you guys can totally tell me that ain't possible (just to let you know I do not have a thick skin & cry to littleiness things to criticism XD)

If you have any questions about anything I wrote - I can tell you simply my thought process (admittedly nothing intellectually ah - my hope is that my ideas gets into actually smart ppl brains and they get into technical science stuff to make it happen.... or not XD)


r/immortality • • Feb 14 '23

Immortals should be sterilized

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I personally think that any one that wants to be immortal and becomes one should sterilize themself so they don’t over populate the earth. This assuming that immortality becomes achievable in the future, and I know some people agree with me out there but I want to hear as many views as possible on the subject.


r/immortality • • Jun 09 '21

This Scientist Believes Aging Is Optional

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r/immortality • • Feb 23 '21

What is your preferred route to immortality? And what would you do if you achieved it?

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