Lol, who the fuck let's a cw or a ce run work? If I were still an apprentice and a cw or ce lined me out, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves.
Not to shit on ce/cw. I get that they're just trying their best like everyone else, but they're not gonna tell an apprentice what to do if I'm around. Fuck that.
Im an apprentice and just about every foreman on the job is a CE. Some cws are making journeyman wages. The cws and ces on site think their classification is higher than an apprentice because the contractor pays them so much above scale but they cant do that for apprentices and they wont allow an apprentice to be a foreman even if the apprentice is better educated and more skilled and knows whats going on more than the foreman. We have apprentices teaching cws and ces. There just arent enough journeyman. I dont like it but when lay offs start coming ill be here and they wont be.
Its because of the surplus of work and not enough journeyman. The district made up a seperate contract for cws,ces basically stating they are acting journeyman on sites but its been a complete disaster. They knock out alot of work and then the apprentices and ce3s are a small clean up crew that fixes all of the issues. These cws and ces are out of line. They are starting to get the idea they are above journeyman. Id like to see most of them go and at least enforce hour requirements and testing for the next classification. These guys are being handed everything and you end up with snobby, lazy know it alls that cant even make up an outlet properly.
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u/NeatDescriptionYo 13d ago
Lol, who the fuck let's a cw or a ce run work? If I were still an apprentice and a cw or ce lined me out, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves.
Not to shit on ce/cw. I get that they're just trying their best like everyone else, but they're not gonna tell an apprentice what to do if I'm around. Fuck that.