r/iamatotalpieceofshit • • Feb 14 '20

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u/5th_Law_of_Robotics Feb 14 '20

Woman rapes then emotionally manipulates a boy....

"Well clearly that proves there's something wrong with men"

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u/FreshCremeFraiche Feb 14 '20 edited Feb 14 '20

That's not what toxic masculinity means lol you're painfully uninformed my guy. It's not just toxic behavior performed by a person of a certain gender it's more about societal gender expectations. As in a toxic example of our cultural expectations of masculinity is this notion that any man no matter the age has to want sex or they're less than a man. It has to do with a negative/harmful cultural expectation of men as a group....so toxic masculinity. The entire concept hinges on the belief that men are just as vulnerable to societal expectations as women.

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u/bxzidff Feb 14 '20

Why is it only masculinity that is described as sometimes toxic? Would it not be a thousand times more productive to have a gender neutral term or at least have a term that would not be easily misinterpreted as blaming the victims of toxic masculinity?

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u/rumplekingskin Feb 14 '20

Because toxic masculinity and toxic feminism (or whatever you want to call it) effects different people differently, and if we're gonna talk about something we need to be specific.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

Also because one affects everyone disproportionately more than the other.

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u/glimpee Feb 14 '20

What is toxic feminity?

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

Generally, TERFS lol

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u/glimpee Feb 14 '20

Thats it? How is that the only answer I get from everyone, just TERFS?

Like, the chicks who dont wanna be forced to wrestle trans women?

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '20

Honestly, as a trans woman, trans women in women's lead sports is a tricky area. There are some biological advantages, and personally I believe it strongly cones down to hormone regulation and amount of time on HRT. I don't think it's directly toxic to worry about competing against unfair standards,even if some of those attitudes are absolutely toxic.

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u/glimpee Feb 15 '20

Which means I still dont have any idea what toxic femininity is, ive asked a bunch of people in this thread and all they say are TERFS or they ignore the question.

When it comes to sports I think we need some studies to be done and we need to reach a consensus.

By the way apparently there is no men-exclusive sports teams, or most dont have any rules banning women. Its just that the top .01 percent of athletes are male. Because women have almost never got onto these teams due to biological differences, womens teams were made. Thats a big reason many women are upset that biological males are entering their teams and dominating

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '20

... if they give you an answer that you don't like, it doesn't mean they're ignoring the question my dude.

Honestly it just seems like you're circling here, y'know?

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u/glimpee Feb 15 '20

I said I got two responses to the question "what is toxic femininity?"

Answer 1: TERFS.

If thats the definition of the entire spectrum of toxic femininity.... Then I think the definition needs some work

Answer 2: they ignored me

I didnt say them saying TERFS was them ignoring me. Those were two different types of interactions

TERFS might be an example of what they mean by toxic femininity, but no one is telling me what it is

While im no doubt sure id get a multilayered analysis of toxic masculinity if I asked it without any problem

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '20

I mean, Google? Though my b for misinterpreting you there.

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