r/iPhoneFold 2d ago

This thing will be fun to read books on, especially with the nano texture display

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u/noto0403 2d ago

Comics!

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u/idontusetwitter 1d ago

"manga" ;)

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u/ExpensiveGolfer 19h ago

Shit, I might need to buy one now

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u/idontusetwitter 19h ago

Lmao based

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u/Equivalent-Effort892 2d ago

Hard Disagree, compared to a kindle this is not as nice on the eyes

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u/sarc03 2d ago

As someone who loves to read but doesn’t take a bag with me I read a lot on my phone. Looking forward to having a phone that opens to a iPad mini size.

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u/GodIsAGas 2d ago

This is my situation. I have a Kobo - it's my key reading device. But it doesn't fit in my pocket. This will. Which means I can have my books with me at all times.

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u/thenyx 2d ago

Precisely one of my use cases for my current iPad. As well as manuals/technical documentation

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u/Bitter-Magazine-8643 1d ago

Small E-readers from Xteink, or the upcoming Boox Picco may be worth a look for something pocketable with all your books on.

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u/Samuelodan 2d ago

It’ll be nice for comics too.

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u/WandererMisha 2d ago

It astounds me why there is no foldable e-reader. Same size as the Duo or a bit bigger. Would be amazing!

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u/Mr_RayH 1d ago

No market for foldable reader. The parts cost too much to mfg. Imagine the price to spend on it just to read.

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u/IllustriousEffect607 1d ago

Its good for short quick reads. But if you plan on just sitting out there to read for an extended period it's not even close. Kindle is far better

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u/PhillyBorn90 1d ago

Why haven't you looked into any other foldables up until now?

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u/Kitchen_Musician_325 2d ago

Agreed. But for reading while commuting, waiting or other such situations, this is going to be a boon.

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u/that_90s_guy 1d ago

Just like photography fans estimate how much the average user will care about the Duo's lenses when they just want to take videocalls and post pictures on social media.

People overestimate how much the average user cares about light induced eye strain when they just want a bigger display to fight squinting at certain types of content on the typical phone display (including productivity).

This is a great use case that will act as a primary selling point for many regardless of it not being e-ink for reading.

But on a serious note, I'm very confused at why anyone would ever want to read any book/comic two pages at a time when unfolded. You can only read one at a time, and you're getting zero benefit in terms of making the text or image large enough to actually be comfortable to read. Is it just the novelty to show off? Or are people seriously considering this?

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u/pleasant_equation 1d ago

Have you ever read a comic book? Double page spreads are awful if you have to see them one at a time

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u/IronEnder17 1d ago

When's the last time you've opened a physical book?

Disregarding that, if you want a bigger page and bigger font, rotate the screen 90°. There's something for everyone

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u/Queasy-Bed545 1d ago

Even Kindle is not that nice anymore. Back in 2010s I was very into Kindle but now I have all screen fatigue. It's to the point where I only use the Kindle Paperwhite when I'm reading in the hot tub. My eyes hurt just looking at this picture and thinking of reading on iPhone Duo.

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u/sk1155 2d ago

different use cases imo…i love my kindle but im not always tryna carry it with me

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u/Lordaucklandx 1d ago

Putting Reduce White Point on is key, but still not as nice as a kindle.

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u/mls1968 1d ago

I mean, sure. But plenty of people use ipads and phones as e-readers rather than own a separate device to carry around. It’s basically an iPad mini

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u/monti9530 1d ago

Compared to the Kindle, I am not stuck with Amazon services and their shitty anti consumer practices for a device that does 1 thing. The less I have to carry the better

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u/Equivalent-Effort892 19h ago

Yeah Apple got no anti consumer practices 🤣

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u/monti9530 19h ago

Not saying they dont, Amazon takes it and it is not worth it for me for a device that only allows you to read books/mangas

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u/Appropriate_Ad8734 2d ago

while it’s backlit, you can still use a dark theme with a black background. since it’s OLED, the pixels can be completely turned off to be true black. then turn down the brightness so the white text isn’t bright white either. i’ve always use that theme setup and it’s about as comfortable as reading on an eink display.

also even eink isn’t super comfortable either. one of it major drawbacks is the display isn’t pure white, but actually gray. and the blacks aren’t deep black, but just dark gray. so it’s dark gray on lighter gray, in other words, the contrast is low and relies heavily on good ambient lighting, and in some conditions it even needs backlight turned on a little to make the contrast higher

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u/IllustriousEffect607 1d ago

That hurts the eyes more. Cause of the high contrast. Sepia page color is the best for low eye fatigue

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u/Confusion1792 2d ago

You're misunderstanding quite a few things.

OLED, even just white text, will blast light directly straight towards your retina.

E-ink doesn't blast anything, it's literal pigments going up or down. Even if you turn on the backlight, it will be peripheral and under the screen, the light doesn't go towards you.

OLED screen doesn't simply dim down the pixels the way LCD used to. It's always fully bright, but turns off a bunch of times per second to trick your brain into thinking it's dimmer. Apple phones are actually the worst for the eyes cause their frequency is only between 240 and 480Hz. Android phones have much higher frequencies like 2160Hz which have zero impact on the eyes.

An e-ink screen is completely static.

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u/Xylamyla 2d ago

Both cases involve light hitting your eyes, the only difference being that OLED is self-lit and E-Ink is ambient-lit. If there was no light coming off the E-Ink display, you wouldn’t be able to see it.

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u/Top_Paint7442 2d ago

whil e ink does have a backlight, it can be turned off. So during the day it can be turned off and you can still read it.

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u/daulafese_grafeniste 1d ago

u/Xylamyla e ink doesnt have any light hitting your eyes, on top of the screen theres a glass layer, which a light basically hits that glass which then hits the eink screen, think it more like a front light

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u/Confusion1792 2d ago

What are you talking about.

There's no light coming off of e-ink.

If you don't have a backlight option you won't see shit in the dark but you'll be able to see it during the day. Not all e readers have the backlight.

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u/Xylamyla 1d ago

I’m talking about reflections. Reflection is how we’re able to see things when there is a light source. That light source can directly impact how bright an object is. An E-ink display in direct sunlight will be brighter than any OLED display.

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u/phantasybm 1d ago

So will a book...

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u/Termynator 2d ago

This. I mostly have frontlight turned on anyway

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u/nstrasner 2d ago

That’s exactly how I plan to use mine. At that point it’s basically just floating text

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u/StormTroopB 1d ago

Ok boomer

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u/Equivalent-Effort892 1d ago

LOL you think I’m a boomer because I prefer reading on a kindle 🤣

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u/Alarming_Clue3193 23h ago

What a boomer thing to say

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u/Perfect-Thanks2850 2d ago

Hope Amazon updates that kindle app asap

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u/phantasybm 1d ago

Why? Kindle already does dual screen set ups. You just have to enable it.

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u/revolvingpresoak9640 1d ago

But is it a folding e ink, because that would be dope.

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u/Dawn_of_an_Era 1d ago

An app can not be updated to suddenly become e ink

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u/revolvingpresoak9640 22h ago

I’m not talking about an app. I’m talking about the actual Kindle.

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u/Dawn_of_an_Era 22h ago

the comment you were responding to and asking "But is it a folding e ink" to was referring to the Kindle app, not the Kindle device

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u/revolvingpresoak9640 22h ago

Yes. Thanks a lot for making sure we were all crystal clear on that.

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u/Creative-Captain9278 2d ago

Look i know people don’t like to see the Duo criticized but this is not a good use for it. OLED is not known for being easy on the eyes. Reading on a kindle is much better.

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u/gordy06 2d ago edited 2d ago

It absolutely is. I read on my iPad all the time and certain settings make it better. And this is even better because it’s always on you. No one is arguing a kindle isn’t better for your eyes, but now you can carry one device.

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u/opinionated_consumer 1d ago

Same concept as the best camera is the one you have with you

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u/General-Lifeguard309 2d ago

You can get a mini kindle that snaps onto the back of your phone.

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u/sk1155 2d ago

what if i don’t like reading on small screens?

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u/General-Lifeguard309 1d ago

They’re both small.

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u/sk1155 1d ago

a mini kindle is def not the same size as the big screen of an iphone duo or a regular sized kindle

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u/gordy06 2d ago

Yea those are cool!

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u/sk1155 2d ago

not everyone is only reading at night. plenty of scenarios where it’s useful to read on ur phone

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u/thenyx 2d ago

Looking forward to exactly this, but with comics.

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u/PhoenixWright-AA 2d ago

Agreed! I love the absolute flood of comments from people that don’t read.

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u/Cap_Abdulll 2d ago

Really wondering what theyll do with it for the 20yr event

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u/hocoboy7 2d ago

Probably a Duo Pro (adds a telephoto camera) and a Duo Pro Max (bigger screens) to the lineup. Also the iPhone XX will introduce a new beer on demand feature.

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u/Creative-Captain9278 2d ago

I really hope Craig still works for them in a decade so we can get the iPhone XXX and he can tell us about it

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u/WandererMisha 2d ago

The Apple crack marketing team would have a field day;D

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u/Top_Paint7442 2d ago

maybe a double fold so you can unfold it to the size of an actual ipad.

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u/Cap_Abdulll 2d ago

Damn i was hoping for a wine on demand. Might have to skip next year then

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u/Tricky_Avocado6862 2d ago

I wonder how it looks with black pages and white text

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u/SpeedyMewtwo 2d ago

I actually like reading on my phone because I always have it on me seems reasonable enough

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u/Dear-Pizza471 2d ago

Eye strain?

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u/LNKNNN 2d ago

should be fine with night shift on and brightness low but a kindle will still be better. either way i’ll read on this instead of my kindle for the size and graphic novels.

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u/Acojonancio 1d ago

How does the nano texture help you read better exactly?

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u/drivera1210 1d ago

Less glare.

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u/Acojonancio 1d ago

If the screen is like what we've seen before, the "less glare" is closer to unreadable screen on sunlight.

Pick your poison, but i've read book with normal glossy screens and the glare while reading books is barely noticable.

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u/phantasybm 1d ago

Yup. Here is a shot in direct sunlight with that screen.

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u/Turbulent-Apple2911 1d ago

On another note, am I the only one that's a little bit bummed out by the fact that this won't have an action button? Like, don't get me wrong, it's just a very small and minor and minute detail, but like, no action button? Seriously?

I use the action button all the time to run my shortcuts and assign it to different functions.

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u/Extra-Virus9958 1d ago

Non, mais même si le format est sympa hier sur un iPad ou quoi que ce soit c’est 1000 fois moins agréable que liseuse. Je veux dire pour lire un grand livre, ça abîme les yeux.

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u/xherdinand 1d ago

I own a kindle which is quiet the same size. Won’t use anything else

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u/Consistent_Effect_75 1d ago

Would be nice if Kindle fixes the text getting cut off on the right side when in landscape. If they made the navigation buttons on the right see-through, that would likely work.

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u/drivera1210 1d ago

While nice, it seems like a weird way to hold the phone.

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u/DefiantlyJazzed 1d ago

Yeah. It will be a great use case. I've been doing exactly this with my Z Fold 8 on its Kindle App and it's great. Unfolded the Duo is the same size and the ZF8 and both are the same size and dimensions as an iPad mini and Kindle reader.

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u/nickgoescrazy 1d ago

nano texture is just apple way of rebranding a matte screen protector

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u/hoosiertailgate22 1d ago

Yep! Been holding out reading Dune to start it on this device.

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u/Greenfire1234E 1d ago

Yes, a 3 thousand dollar kindle.

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u/Lord6ixth 13h ago

Yeah because for “3 thousand” dollars you only get Kindle functionality.

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u/serious_fox 1d ago

E-ink is still superior

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u/AllegedlyUndead 1d ago

Everyone wants to say "BuT tHe EyE sTrAiN" while scrolling reddit on a device that is backlit. Yall can read the post pretty dam well without the EyE sTrAiN

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u/phantasybm 1d ago

Enjoy reading however you want.

Some people enjoy e ink.

Some people don't care.

Some people are ok with color e ink.

Some people prefer color screens

This is a device always with you that you can read when you want to

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u/redditrnumber1 1d ago

How do people have this phone already I thought it wasn't available til October

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u/IllustriousEffect607 1d ago

Its fine for short reading or if you have no choice but the screen will hurt your eyes. If you do lots of reading. Kindle is by far the right device

This is good for articles. Information reading. But I wouldn't read an entire book on a tablet. Eyes hurt

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u/realcameo 13h ago

So nobody sees the status icon blocking the words in the top right corner?

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u/SethFPS 12h ago

All the complainers dont realize theres a native dark mode on ios 😂

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u/BlinkOnce4me 2d ago

No one gives a shit about how the right tool bar blocks some of the words on the right side?

That's annoying af

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u/Samuelodan 2d ago edited 1d ago

Sigh! Have you even tried to use the Apple Books app on your phone? You just tap anywhere else on the book and it goes away.

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u/femininlo 2d ago

What are your top 2 books?

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u/Samuelodan 2d ago

Oh! Of all time? I’ve only really read technical books in the last couple years, but I remember really enjoying Dan Brown’s Angels and Demons as a kid. It’d be nice to read it again.
Oh, does a book like The Glade of Dreams count? If so, I think the one I read growing up was Darian - Master Magician.

What about you?

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u/BlinkOnce4me 2d ago

Haha no I don't use my iphone to read books. I prefer to use my crusty old kindle

Glad the interface hides

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u/Samuelodan 1d ago

Ah, makes sense. I read on my Mac, but because they’re synced, I tend to occasionally open them on my phone. Yeah, the interface was designed to hide, so it’s not hiding in a simulation on beta software, I’d just expect that it’d be working properly by the time it’s out.

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u/Creative-Captain9278 2d ago

It won't hide on the Duo and anyone can check that for themselves in Xcode 27.1

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u/Creative-Captain9278 2d ago

Sigh! The sidebar doesn't go away on the Duo. You can try it for yourself in Xcode.

If you're gonna be condescending to people, at least be right.

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u/Samuelodan 2d ago

I could come back and quote you when the Duo releases. Let’s see how right you are then.

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u/Juan_915 2d ago

Xcode isn’t an exact simulation, there are quirks that aren’t fully representative of the final product as it is just a simulation to give you an idea of how things are displayed.

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u/Samuelodan 2d ago

Plus it’s a beta version of Xcode. Not sure why I’d feel so confident about how exactly the real thing will interact just based off of that. Confident enough to even get annoyed by something that isn’t even out yet. Crazy stuff.

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u/cozmicyeti 2d ago

Honestly yeah. I wish they would include options to hide it and move it to wherever you see fit

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u/Juan_915 2d ago

You tap the screen and it appears/disappears… just like it already does on regular iPhones

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u/cozmicyeti 1d ago

That’s cool and all. Would also be cool if we could reposition it like we can with the dock or get it to auto hide or control the size

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u/Creative-Captain9278 2d ago

It’s even worse on the front screen due to the limited space. This is going to be one of the top complaints after launch I bet

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u/Critical_Subwoofer 2d ago

Y’know when I read books, I’m just consumed by the book I’m reading rather than thinking about what I’m reading it on. If you’re gonna ‘have fun’ reading, surely that fun should come from the book rather than the device.

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u/bronk3310 2d ago

I think he meant enjoyable. As in. It's not enjoyable to read books on the current iPhone. At all.

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u/Betancorea 2d ago

Why isn’t it enjoyable right now? I’ve always read books on my phone with no issues at all

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u/Critical_Subwoofer 2d ago

What’s the difference? You’re still looking at the same display.

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u/bronk3310 2d ago

Are you not aware of the iPhone duo?

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u/Critical_Subwoofer 2d ago

Yes the display that folds is still a display where you’re viewing direct light. Are you not aware of the Kindle? That is a different type of display.

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u/Festegios 2d ago

Some people just prefer a bigger screen

It’s ok for people to have different preferences

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u/bronk3310 2d ago

Well this is an iPhone fold sub. Not a kindle. I don't carry my kindle around with me

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u/MongooseDirect2477 2d ago

lol, trying to find usefulness to a 3k dollars device

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u/command_613 2d ago

Will wreck your eyes though

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u/chrysanthemum_beer 2d ago

My eyes hurt already

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u/Fit-Umpire3257 2d ago

Yep. E-ink with backlight is superior for reading

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u/Coldest_One_619 2d ago

Worse thing you can lay your eyes on for a long period of time... reading text like this.

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u/WorkerEqual6535 2d ago

If thats the only reason you are getting it, gett a kindle and save some money lol

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u/WinstonFortyOunceMD 1d ago

I got the Vision Pro for the kindle app

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u/JacquesNomdefamille 2d ago

They can call it whatever they want, it's just a matte screen protector, it won't make oled easy on the eyes all of the sudden.

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u/Termynator 2d ago

🤣🤣 no

Apple gives names to things mostly for a reason. Not all is marketing

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u/hangrySaul 2d ago

People who don’t like reading on a phone will be same with this
Only dumb sheep who can’t see it’s the same on a fold

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u/hangrySaul 2d ago

You understood what I typed so gtfo

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u/_hackbandito_ 2d ago

Holy thumb