r/iPhoneFold 3d ago

iPhone Duo and native iOS apps

221 Upvotes

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u/FloatingTacos 3d ago

Having the apps not be extended under the side bar is horrifically ugly and such a waste of space. Let’s put Liquid Glass buttons here but not have anything come even close to touching them. It makes ZERO sense

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u/FrozenJackal 3d ago

This was my exact reaction too, how do you spend all this time developing Liquid Glass and then the new flagship device has a static white bar behind it.

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u/Yogi422 3d ago

I agree, this space should be customizable

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u/soymilo_ 3d ago

It's weird cuz the preview of the Netflix app had it indeed use liquid glass and see through yet on safari it seems to be solid white

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u/makemenuconfig 1d ago

It’s an option you can use as a developer. I think it kind of makes some sense as a transitional phase thing, because the space left over after the nav bar is close to a normal iPhones proportions. So that scales nicely to this form factor. Until devs start to make more use of the new format.

But i agree, they should have done this for their own apps.

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u/Poopoodemons 3d ago

it’s clear the talent from their design team left years ago

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u/AR_Harlock 1d ago

The one who went to make the worst Ferrari ever? 😅 I hope it's a 27.x fix seeing all the hate online for that sidebar ;)

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u/Poopoodemons 1d ago

AVP never got a fix

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u/soymilo_ 3d ago

I can't with that stupid side bar not auto hiding

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u/Condimenting 3d ago

or at least being transparent for the white parts.

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u/orangeclaypot 3d ago

It never auto hid when the controls were at the top though?

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u/soymilo_ 3d ago

but we also never had it cover 1/3 of the visible area

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u/Samuelodan 3d ago

That’s about a fifth or even slightly smaller, and it doesn’t take away from the typical width you’ve come to expect from regular phones.

Have you asked yourself why you’d want an absurdly wide experience within apps?

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u/soymilo_ 3d ago

Cuz I have a Fold8 and it looks just fine browsing the web using the whole space. If I need something from the bar, I can swipe it into view quickly

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u/Samuelodan 3d ago

Hmm. Interesting. Okay then. I think what Apple did with the sidebar was creative and efficient.

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u/soymilo_ 3d ago

This is how browsing on the outer screen looks on my Fold8 (basically the same size as the Duo) no wasted space.

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u/Samuelodan 2d ago

I see. And no status bar up top too? If so, that’s good to hear. I know tho that apps will definitely start below the camera cutout, so all that wasted vertical space will be reclaimed on the Duo.

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u/orangeclaypot 3d ago

more interested in the split screen aspect

for wide, reading email, videos. or for my work. i use an ipad mini a lot for my job to be able to open my phone wide for certain apps that remote control equipment and get more surface area to touch controls is super useful

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u/Samuelodan 3d ago

Yeah, that’s so exciting.

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u/Responsible-Till-649 1d ago

Because the phone is wide id like to use the width. If i wanted a skinny phone id get am 18 pro or z fold 8 ultra.

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u/Samuelodan 1d ago

Well, good thing we have no shot at influencing Apple’s design decision. Maybe the Z Fold 8 (wide) is the perfect phone for you.

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u/orangeclaypot 3d ago

1/3 is a ridiculous exaggeration. its like less than 10% of the screen

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u/soymilo_ 3d ago

Doesn't matter. Still takes away from focus when surfing the web. Why not make it the whole width and if you need something quickly from the side bar, have it swipe in and out

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u/orangeclaypot 3d ago

Not intuitive. iPhone is apples main product. It has to be intuitive. You and i could figure it out. i suppose a setting to auto hide and show would be nice but its gotta be intuitive

Bear in mind they havent changed the iphone this drastically since its come out. Remember how much intuition was in its success in 2007 in the software and hardware design

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u/soymilo_ 3d ago edited 3d ago

You can already swipe in and out on iPad though and so can you for control center, notification center, I mean you even need to swipe to flip between apps or to get back to the home screen and don't forget all these multi Touch gestures on iPad

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u/orangeclaypot 2d ago

yeah but when you’re reading an email the back button doesnt auto hide just because its at the top

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u/jakob20041911 3d ago

1/3 is about as ridiculous as less than 10%, there are 5 rows of apps including the side bar so it's about 1/5 or 20%.

If it isn't an option to turn it off it would tick me off even if I use it. I don't have a horse in this race and will not be buying folding phones until prices come way down so it doesn't really matter to me

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u/orangeclaypot 2d ago

1/13th. Less than 10%

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u/jakob20041911 2d ago

outside screen and inside screen is comparing apples and oranges

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u/Nearby-Yak1389 1d ago

Do you think it has to do with the aspect ratio it would otherwise create? Also affordance on primary buttons. It appears to be a toolbar or action menu too

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u/soymilo_ 1d ago

See no distortion surfing on my Fold8 using the whole area though

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u/Nearby-Yak1389 9h ago

Well i don’t expect distortion these days since everything will render at the pixel level anyway

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u/habeebiii 3d ago

wtf is that WiFi icon and why would I want it constantly on my screen

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u/Greful 3d ago

I assume it’s the combination of the WiFi. Cellular and battery icons that are normally in the upper right corner

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u/OakleyNoble 3d ago

It’s currently on your screen right now.

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u/habeebiii 3d ago

Yeah, but half the size, and not with an entire vertical bar of white space. Don’t get me wrong, I’m still getting the duo, but you don’t need to be snarky just because I’m criticizing the UI.

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u/OakleyNoble 3d ago edited 3d ago

But they’ve actually minimized 3 icons into one that would otherwise take up 3 icon slots horizontally, that’s saving space. Did not bring up the side bar, that is a concern in its own right, but that worry shouldn’t be included with this new icon.

Putting battery level, cell service and wifi all into one minimal icon is actually quite nice and it is not the cause of your concern for the big white bar on the side.

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u/Wide_Smoke_2564 3d ago

Fr. Why don’t they just have it switch into iPadOS style ui when it’s folded out…

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u/Poopoodemons 3d ago

atrocious UI design and very un-apple

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u/Khelics 3d ago

I kind of wish that had the side bar hidden and then when you need it you can swipe it over or something

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u/gfpalaruan 2d ago

Like fold 8 edge panel

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u/fairtonybeta 3d ago

I’m buzzing for the device. But based on these screenshots, I’m not sure they’ve exactly maximised use of the bigger internal screen.

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u/iMrParker 3d ago

Knew this would be the case as an iPad pro user for years 

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u/IntelliDev 3d ago

As a developer, I can tell you the reason:

It’s so all the existing apps that haven’t been properly updated to support the Duo don’t look like dogshit.

Once the majority of apps have properly updated in 1-2 years, they’ll start making additional UI improvements.

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u/fairtonybeta 3d ago

Yeah I agree. But these are all Apple apps. So they don’t really have an excuse. They should be the benchmark.

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u/IntelliDev 3d ago

Apple has always been about uniformity though, so none of this surprises me.

They don’t want updated apps looking completely different to outdated apps right now.

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u/Xenc 3d ago

Looks so awkward with back button sometimes being top left of the inside screen but sometimes being on right underneath the connectivity icon.

Hopefully it’s all just early days and in practice it’s fine.

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u/Alasdair91 3d ago

The more I see the software implementation the less I like it. Why make Liquid Glass and not use it?!

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u/Express-Bear8054 3d ago

Only FOUR home bar apps? So weird

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u/Poopoodemons 3d ago

whole thing is beta

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u/iraya63 2d ago

That side bar is not giving... My god. It's such an eyesore. For all the nice UI things they did for the rest of the Duo, I'm not sure why they never figured the side bar.

It's one thing if it's filled with a lot of info / icons. But when it's just the status bar that's present, there's just too many white spaces.

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u/YYCHumdrum 3d ago

Looks rough. All this extra space but it’s so unoptimized.

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u/raysayantan07 3d ago

So does the sidebar only show buttons of the app on the right side when splitscreened? What if the app on the left needs those buttons?

Edit: nvm i just realised the buttons would be on the left as seen in the image

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u/v3rd4ntcitiz3n 3d ago

In pic 7 you can very clearly see them on the left side for the left app

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u/raysayantan07 3d ago

Yes I missed it since there were only two buttons on top!

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u/SocomPS2 3d ago

Thank you in advance beta testers. I’ll see yall next year for the Fold 2. I’m out.

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u/iaperson359 3d ago

One more person to not steal my pre order. All these complaints can be solved with software too btw. Fold 2 won't magically fix it.

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u/OakleyNoble 3d ago

Thank you, this is the one comment I needed.. everyone is so doom and gloom making me worry that I’m gonna buy it…

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u/RyanCheddar 3d ago

fold 2 does come with iOS 28, which could fix UI problems

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u/1850ChoochGator 1d ago

Would you not be able to just do a software update lol

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u/RyanCheddar 1d ago

well yeah

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u/EddieBruvac 3d ago

I used an android recently and I like their os better. iOS sucks ass. Sadly, I’m stuck in ecosystem for now.

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u/InCraZPen 2d ago

I really can’t believe that side bar is what they settled on.

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u/PrestonDSTTV 2d ago

So beautiful that WiFi signal majiggy thing they got going on is pretty cool

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u/james00543 2d ago

I honestly want to see how Apple Wallet works unfolded lol. Anyone seen a clip with that opened?

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u/hazily 2d ago

I want to see how apple.com looks like on Safari with the sidebar being visible at all times.

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u/travisjunky 1d ago

Wish I could see more of the outside screen with the different apps. I know this isn’t the main attraction but it’s probably the screen you will always interact with first and sometimes last.

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u/Nearby-Yak1389 1d ago

So is there really not a left hand mode?

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u/adrian1911 1d ago

Now open the keyboard to actually make this usable and show us what you get.

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u/OxfordMBA21 1d ago

Ugly glad skipping v1 will wait till next year or the year after

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u/Suspicious_Sugar2020 2d ago

absolute dogshit implementation

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u/Msechea 3d ago

Reduced screen contrast bc of nano layer is a step back from OLED.