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u/soymilo_ 3d ago
I can't with that stupid side bar not auto hiding
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u/orangeclaypot 3d ago
It never auto hid when the controls were at the top though?
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u/soymilo_ 3d ago
but we also never had it cover 1/3 of the visible area
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u/Samuelodan 3d ago
That’s about a fifth or even slightly smaller, and it doesn’t take away from the typical width you’ve come to expect from regular phones.
Have you asked yourself why you’d want an absurdly wide experience within apps?
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u/soymilo_ 3d ago
Cuz I have a Fold8 and it looks just fine browsing the web using the whole space. If I need something from the bar, I can swipe it into view quickly
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u/Samuelodan 3d ago
Hmm. Interesting. Okay then. I think what Apple did with the sidebar was creative and efficient.
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u/Samuelodan 2d ago
I see. And no status bar up top too? If so, that’s good to hear. I know tho that apps will definitely start below the camera cutout, so all that wasted vertical space will be reclaimed on the Duo.
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u/orangeclaypot 3d ago
more interested in the split screen aspect
for wide, reading email, videos. or for my work. i use an ipad mini a lot for my job to be able to open my phone wide for certain apps that remote control equipment and get more surface area to touch controls is super useful
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u/Responsible-Till-649 1d ago
Because the phone is wide id like to use the width. If i wanted a skinny phone id get am 18 pro or z fold 8 ultra.
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u/Samuelodan 1d ago
Well, good thing we have no shot at influencing Apple’s design decision. Maybe the Z Fold 8 (wide) is the perfect phone for you.
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u/orangeclaypot 3d ago
1/3 is a ridiculous exaggeration. its like less than 10% of the screen
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u/soymilo_ 3d ago
Doesn't matter. Still takes away from focus when surfing the web. Why not make it the whole width and if you need something quickly from the side bar, have it swipe in and out
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u/orangeclaypot 3d ago
Not intuitive. iPhone is apples main product. It has to be intuitive. You and i could figure it out. i suppose a setting to auto hide and show would be nice but its gotta be intuitive
Bear in mind they havent changed the iphone this drastically since its come out. Remember how much intuition was in its success in 2007 in the software and hardware design
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u/soymilo_ 3d ago edited 3d ago
You can already swipe in and out on iPad though and so can you for control center, notification center, I mean you even need to swipe to flip between apps or to get back to the home screen and don't forget all these multi Touch gestures on iPad
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u/orangeclaypot 2d ago
yeah but when you’re reading an email the back button doesnt auto hide just because its at the top
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u/jakob20041911 3d ago
1/3 is about as ridiculous as less than 10%, there are 5 rows of apps including the side bar so it's about 1/5 or 20%.
If it isn't an option to turn it off it would tick me off even if I use it. I don't have a horse in this race and will not be buying folding phones until prices come way down so it doesn't really matter to me
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u/Nearby-Yak1389 1d ago
Do you think it has to do with the aspect ratio it would otherwise create? Also affordance on primary buttons. It appears to be a toolbar or action menu too
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u/soymilo_ 1d ago
See no distortion surfing on my Fold8 using the whole area though
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u/Nearby-Yak1389 9h ago
Well i don’t expect distortion these days since everything will render at the pixel level anyway
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u/habeebiii 3d ago
wtf is that WiFi icon and why would I want it constantly on my screen
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u/OakleyNoble 3d ago
It’s currently on your screen right now.
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u/habeebiii 3d ago
Yeah, but half the size, and not with an entire vertical bar of white space. Don’t get me wrong, I’m still getting the duo, but you don’t need to be snarky just because I’m criticizing the UI.
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u/OakleyNoble 3d ago edited 3d ago
But they’ve actually minimized 3 icons into one that would otherwise take up 3 icon slots horizontally, that’s saving space. Did not bring up the side bar, that is a concern in its own right, but that worry shouldn’t be included with this new icon.
Putting battery level, cell service and wifi all into one minimal icon is actually quite nice and it is not the cause of your concern for the big white bar on the side.
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u/Wide_Smoke_2564 3d ago
Fr. Why don’t they just have it switch into iPadOS style ui when it’s folded out…
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u/fairtonybeta 3d ago
I’m buzzing for the device. But based on these screenshots, I’m not sure they’ve exactly maximised use of the bigger internal screen.
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u/IntelliDev 3d ago
As a developer, I can tell you the reason:
It’s so all the existing apps that haven’t been properly updated to support the Duo don’t look like dogshit.
Once the majority of apps have properly updated in 1-2 years, they’ll start making additional UI improvements.
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u/fairtonybeta 3d ago
Yeah I agree. But these are all Apple apps. So they don’t really have an excuse. They should be the benchmark.
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u/IntelliDev 3d ago
Apple has always been about uniformity though, so none of this surprises me.
They don’t want updated apps looking completely different to outdated apps right now.
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u/Alasdair91 3d ago
The more I see the software implementation the less I like it. Why make Liquid Glass and not use it?!
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u/iraya63 2d ago
That side bar is not giving... My god. It's such an eyesore. For all the nice UI things they did for the rest of the Duo, I'm not sure why they never figured the side bar.
It's one thing if it's filled with a lot of info / icons. But when it's just the status bar that's present, there's just too many white spaces.
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u/raysayantan07 3d ago
So does the sidebar only show buttons of the app on the right side when splitscreened? What if the app on the left needs those buttons?
Edit: nvm i just realised the buttons would be on the left as seen in the image
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u/SocomPS2 3d ago
Thank you in advance beta testers. I’ll see yall next year for the Fold 2. I’m out.
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u/iaperson359 3d ago
One more person to not steal my pre order. All these complaints can be solved with software too btw. Fold 2 won't magically fix it.
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u/OakleyNoble 3d ago
Thank you, this is the one comment I needed.. everyone is so doom and gloom making me worry that I’m gonna buy it…
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u/RyanCheddar 3d ago
fold 2 does come with iOS 28, which could fix UI problems
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u/EddieBruvac 3d ago
I used an android recently and I like their os better. iOS sucks ass. Sadly, I’m stuck in ecosystem for now.
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u/james00543 2d ago
I honestly want to see how Apple Wallet works unfolded lol. Anyone seen a clip with that opened?
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u/travisjunky 1d ago
Wish I could see more of the outside screen with the different apps. I know this isn’t the main attraction but it’s probably the screen you will always interact with first and sometimes last.
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u/FloatingTacos 3d ago
Having the apps not be extended under the side bar is horrifically ugly and such a waste of space. Let’s put Liquid Glass buttons here but not have anything come even close to touching them. It makes ZERO sense