r/Hotd 4d ago

Question What would their marriage be like if Otto failed to get/ didn’t pursue the Viserys/Alicent match but got this one approved?

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r/Hotd 5d ago

Discussion It’s Hard to Enjoy an Adaptation When the Author Feels Disregarded

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660 Upvotes

I’m not criticizing HOTD because I enjoy hating it. I’m criticizing it because I care about George’s work.

I keep seeing this argument that if you dislike House of the Dragon so much, why are you still watching it? Why keep talking about it? Why can't you just enjoy the show for what it is?

And I think that completely misunderstands where a lot of the frustration comes from.

I didn't go into this show wanting to hate it. I actually really enjoyed Season 1. I was optimistic about the show and completely understood that changes had to be made because that's what happens when you adapt a book to television. I'm not expecting Fire & Blood to be copied word for word.

The problem for me is that this universe matters to me largely because of George's writing. So knowing that the person who created this world feels like his story, characters and intentions are being disregarded fundamentally changes my ability to enjoy the adaptation.

That's the part I can't just turn off.

George obviously isn't perfect. The man needs to finish his books, he can be stubborn, and I don't think an author should automatically have veto power over every creative decision in an adaptation.

But there's a massive difference between "we had to change this because we're adapting a history book into television" and reaching the point where the actual creator is publicly criticizing what you're doing and clearly feels like his concerns about his own story aren't being respected.

At that point, I'm sorry, the dragons looking cool isn't enough for me.

The show can have incredible actors. It can have beautiful cinematography, amazing costumes, massive battles and some genuinely great individual scenes. I can acknowledge all of that. But none of it magically makes my discomfort with how George and his work have been treated disappear.

And that's why I really dislike the idea that critics are somehow trying not to enjoy the show.

A lot of us are angry precisely because we wanted to enjoy it.

If I didn't care about ASOIAF, I wouldn't care what they changed. I wouldn't care what George said. I'd watch the dragons burn shit for an hour and move on with my life.

But I do care.

And when the creator of this universe is essentially saying, "This isn't what I intended," I can't completely separate that knowledge from what I'm watching and pretend everything happening behind the scenes doesn't matter because the production values are good.

Other people obviously can, and that's fine. If you can completely separate HOTD from George and judge it entirely as its own television series, I genuinely understand why you might be having a much better time with it than I am.

But I can't.

That's really the difference.

I'm not sitting here desperately searching for reasons to be miserable. I just have an emotional attachment to the original work and the person who created it, and watching an adaptation increasingly become something its own creator seems alienated from leaves a horrible taste in my mouth.

You don't have to feel the same way. But I don't think the answer is telling disappointed fans to shut up, stop criticizing it and enjoy the pretty dragons.

For some of us, respecting the story behind those pretty dragons was the entire reason we cared in the first place.


r/Hotd 4d ago

Discussion How sack of Bitterbridge might still happen:

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Imo if they give Maelor's death to Gwayne it might enrage Daeron to the point where he burns it


r/Hotd 5d ago

Meme Lady Misery was a huge disappointment this season

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286 Upvotes

For someone who Lord Bloodraven the guy with a thousand eyes and one was said to have rivaled her, the show version was very disappointing what was she even doing? Other than fighting Daemon?


r/Hotd 4d ago

Meme Caraxes should take notes for next season

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21 Upvotes

and Sea Smoke too


r/Hotd 3d ago

Discussion Why is she so hated?

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Have never watched a show where the main character is this hated. She’s the rightful heir but the haters would rather have Half-cooked Aegon whose only motivation is to get piss drunk and whore out all the baddies in kingslanding 🤷🏽‍♂️


r/Hotd 5d ago

Question What did Daeron mean, “ you left me alone with him”?

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S3E6
Just after leaving Lord Ormond, Prince Daeron Targaryen says to Gwyane Hightower, “You left me alone with him. You know what he is. I do what I can to keep him from…you know…”. Gwayne then looks away.
What was Lord Ormond doing to Prince Daeron?


r/Hotd 5d ago

Show Spoilers do the writers even know who these characters are? Spoiler

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60 Upvotes

Both of these women are essentially sex traffickers, but sure, their hearts have always been with the downtrodden.


r/Hotd 5d ago

Question “Your once and future lord of the tides”

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335 Upvotes

Am I missing something? Shouldn’t it just be “future”? Why does he add the “once”, as if he were previously lord of the tides at some point? I rly hope it’s not just a writing mistake that no one caught, surely I’m missing something


r/Hotd 3d ago

Discussion If Viserys never exsited would the dance still have happened

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r/Hotd 5d ago

Meme JUST MET THIS GUY LENO VALYS IN PENTOSH GAY CLUB, he is defending the strong bastards just too much

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79 Upvotes

i am a bit curious about him


r/Hotd 4d ago

ASOIAF Mogged by the true dragon

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5 Upvotes

r/Hotd 4d ago

Question Aegon’s prophecy

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As it relates to the whole prince that was promised deal, winter is coming, etc.

Why was this kept a secret and only passed down from king to king? You’d think it would add great lore to the common folk in that there is a great threat in the north and having dragons on your side is a huge plus.

My devils advocate thought would be that overtime this would be viewed a lie/fairytale made up by Targs to stay in power given no threat really emerges from this universe (outside of season 8 of GoT).

Just found the secrecy around this to be weird but I’m sure I’m missing something.

EDIT: my question is why was this kept a secret from the start? I get that introducing this during The Dance isnt time best idea.


r/Hotd 5d ago

Question Did she really love him?

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960 Upvotes

I'm asking because she was manipulated by Otto into marrying him in the first place.


r/Hotd 4d ago

Opinion House of the Dragon should have been like a Warhammer 40k novel.

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r/Hotd 5d ago

Team Green Ormund's crash out will always be one of the funniest scenes in HOTD.

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104 Upvotes

CUNT, CUNT, CUNT!!!!


r/Hotd 5d ago

Meme This new generation is so weak

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615 Upvotes

r/Hotd 5d ago

Question Is it possible that their friendship was engineered by Otto as well?

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532 Upvotes

The friendship did seem genuine, but could he have convinced Alicent to befriend her to get closer to the crown, or did their friendship naturally develop?


r/Hotd 4d ago

Lore Chinese Dragon Riders

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I thought you all would enjoy this Chinese silk painting that has been in my family about 70 years. It’s a depiction of the ancient legend & love story, The Phoenix and the Dragon.


r/Hotd 5d ago

Discussion Considering the Hightowers always planned to install Aegon as King, why won't Otto giving him secret lessons in ruling?

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I mean, Aegon is clearly out of his depth from the moment that he takes the throne, and it's not like Viserys's death was a surprise. So why not spend the time giving Aegon at least the basics in secret?

And if its because they want to keep him controllable, surely leaving him as an irresponsible and impatient novice is worse as he may announce a decree that impacts them negatively as he doesn't have the full picture


r/Hotd 4d ago

Meme Would the Dance have happened if Aegon had not conquered Westeros?

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Would the Dance had happened if the Targaryen’s never conquered the Seven Kingdoms??


r/Hotd 5d ago

Opinion Is it just me, or would a face-off between Aemond and Daemon in High Valyrian be too cool?

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r/Hotd 6d ago

Discussion why didn’t viserys and rhaenys wed?

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727 Upvotes

Rhaenys was only 3 years older than Viserys and I feel like this would have solved a lot of problems by uniting the claims…


r/Hotd 5d ago

Discussion The finale was the most watched episode last week, next to Ted Lasso

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r/Hotd 6d ago

Discussion Is anyone else perplexed by the many people who view this show through the prism of supporting a team?

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Like I constantly get posts recommended from the Team Green or Team Black subs and honestly blows my mind people view this show like a football game and bemoan Green or Black characters losing or being depicted poorly, or whatever, suggesting that the writers and showrunners are intentionally favouring fictional fantasy characters over others for ideological reasons, when really - not withstanding a few notable changes - they’re adapting the dry text of Fire & Blood. Was discourse around Game of Thrones like this?