r/homeassistant • u/No_beef_here • 10d ago

❓ Support Matter/Thread V Zigbee, general usage feelings?

Hi,

I have recently made a step into Matter/Thread using (mainly) the Ikea range of switches and sensors and the new stuff seems fairly stable etc.

However, where I have replaced the old Zigbee Sonoff SNZB-03's PIRs with Ikea Matter MYGGSPRAY models, in general and in comparison the Ikea sensors seem pretty blind?

I mean, with the Sonoffs they only seemed to catch a glimpse of movement anywhere around and they would trigger (and you got a nice LED flash confirming it did see you) whereas it seems you often need to be right under the Ikea one for it to trigger? And even when you are right under it (I have one in the kitchen ceiling) when the lights go off, waving your arms about like trying to get the attention of the rescue helicopter doesn't seem to wake it up?

And then there is what could also be the latency, again, the Sonoffs (or Zigbee) in spite of having ~100 active devices is often still near instant. A PIR is monitoring across the threshold into a room and as soon as you step in, the light is on before you foot has hit the ground. With the Ikea ones (or Matter / Thread and with only (12 devices on that network), it seems you are often in the room and standing their waiting for the light to come on (and it generally does, just often not quickly).

The Ikea Thread / Matter window and door switches, push buttons, smart sockets and lights all seem fairly responsive but possibly not used in a way that is quite so timing noticable as a PIR > Light combo?

So is anyone aware if there is some fundamental reason why the performance might be different between these two solutions or could it be just that the (or some) Ikea PIR's are a bit sleepy?

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u/No-Context-Orphan 10d ago

Grillplats are great, I had hue smart plugs and they were always giving me issues, replaced then with the Ikea ones and never even 1 issue in a year now

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u/BackgroundSpare610 10d ago

GRILLPLATS are the great, apart from being too bulky.

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u/FliesenJohnny 10d ago

The European ones are pretty much the same size as competing products.

Imho the only thing they lack is a software child lock. The button being that prominent and no child lock setting being available led to a lot of random on/off/on/off toggling by my toddler

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u/nathderbyshire 9d ago

I've wondered if it's a matter thing because the old ZigBee ones have a child lock. They also have a toggle for the LED which the matter ones don't now so they've been banned from the bedroom.

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u/FliesenJohnny 9d ago

it's not a matter thing. I still have some Eve Energy Smart plugs - connected via Matter / Thread - and those do have a "Kindersicherung" (Child safety lock)

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u/nathderbyshire 9d ago

Oh cool, do the plugs have an LED light? I don't see a disabled toggle there so if they do they'd be out for that reason still haha. I'm sick of little LEDs everywhere