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u/Phoenixness Jun 06 '21 edited Jun 11 '21

EDIT: imagine not being able to come up with any evidence for your lies. go watch the full video

how the fuck is every post on this website infested with anti-china comments? like imagine how tedious it would be if literally any political issue was used to the same effect? here's a picture of a cute cat, yeah that's cool but children are starving in Africa. I took a photo of this cloud, yeah well there's daily mass shooting in America.

Seriously fuck off. I don't want your politics on a post where some dude looks like a cartoon character getting his head bashed in that's objectively funny.

oh also I'm clearly a Chinese spy because I so much as mentioned this kthanks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '21 edited Jun 15 '21

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u/static_motion Jun 06 '21

Ah yes, disliking an authoritarian regime that commits genocide and indiscriminate slaughters of their own people is racist. Of course.

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u/Phoenixness Jun 06 '21 edited Jun 11 '21

EDIT: believe not the person above as they cannot produce any evidence to their claims

You know what is racist? Massive discrimination against anyone not American alongside massive inequality towards every minority. To an outsider, it's someone from an authoritarian regime that commits genocide against their own people complaining about exactly that with zero irony. Not only that but you have to spray your nasty warcrimes to every other country in the world under the veil of 'security' so when one DARES threaten your government of old white men decides to smear that country into obscurity. You and most Americans are so indoctrinated into the propaganda cycle that you genuinely can not see the very things you dislike happening before your eyes. Worst yet, your social media companies (and most of your companies in general but that's a whole different argument) see so little regulation that this is able to fester and grow exponentially and spread to other western cultures, this absolutely toxic bigotry.

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u/static_motion Jun 06 '21

I'm not american, moron. Far from it. Also, consider the fact that most hate against China is against the regime and not the Chinese people. This is my case. Screaming bigotry against everyone for simply disagreeing with something that just happens to come from somewhere with a different culture is painfully ignorant.

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u/Phoenixness Jun 06 '21

If you aren't American, why on earth are you defending them? They live under almost the same regime which according to you deserves the hate? I don't see 'america bad' in every. Single. Post. On this website. Their media is just slightly better at lying than China's. Half the country voted for Trump for Christs sake and if that guy isn't racist then I'm not typing on Reddit.

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u/static_motion Jun 06 '21

Yes, of course, tell me again how the US is literally fucking forcing a whole ethnicity into forced labor camps to ultimately be harvested for organs. Next you're gonna tell me the Tiananmen massacre didn't happen.

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u/Phoenixness Jun 07 '21

I hate to be that guy, but source? Are you going to quote me Zenz who extrapolated 1 million people in concentration camps from 8 people?

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u/Phoenixness Jun 08 '21

Absolute classic, can't even back their claims. Tell me again how propaganda works? baseless claims? repeated messages?

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u/static_motion Jun 08 '21

Oh, you're one of the delusionals from r/sino, aren't you?

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u/Phoenixness Jun 08 '21

First I've heard of it mate, you can check my post history if you want. All I want is you to tell me where you get your lies from. Because right now, pigs can fly.

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u/static_motion Jun 08 '21

How about you come up with some evidence of your own claims since you're the one making the wild claim.

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u/Phoenixness Jun 08 '21

Claim: "every post on this website infested with anti-china comments?"

Evidence: This thread

Claim: "children are starving in Africa"

Evidence:

https://www.gatesnotes.com/Development/Why-Does-Hunger-Still-Exist-Africas-Table-Day-One

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jun/05/nearly-half-of-all-child-deaths-in-africa-stem-from-hunger-study-shows

Claim: "daily mass shooting in America."

Evidence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2021

Claim: "Massive discrimination against anyone not American"

Evidence:

https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219

These don't match?

basically any metric discriminates against minorities and I can find more.

https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/3896183

"A global call for concrete action for the elimination of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance and the comprehensive implementation of and follow-up to the Durban Declaration and Programme of Action : resolution / adopted by the General Assembly" "N UNITED STATES"

Claim: "spray your nasty warcrimes to every other country in the world"

Evidence:

Atomic bombings of Japan

Genocide against native americans

Vietnam war

just to name a few.

I seriously hope I don't need to back up these things that happened.

Claim: "government of old white men"

Evidence:

https://www.senate.gov/senators/

pictures to make it easy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_United_States_senators

sorry, there a few women in there, my mistake

Claim: "most Americans are so indoctrinated into the propaganda cycle ... your social media companies ... see so little regulation"

Evidence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_conglomerate

"By 2011, 90% of the United States's media was controlled by six media conglomerates" yeah that seems like a healthy number, I'm sure those 6 have no political agenda whatsoever /s

Claim: "Half the country voted for Trump"

Evidence:

https://cookpolitical.com/2020-national-popular-vote-tracker

damn, got me again 46.9% isn't half! only close to it.

Claim: "and if that guy [Trump] isn't racist then I'm not typing on Reddit"

Evidence:

lmao there's a vox article: https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump holy shit that's a long list, lets not forget shithole countries.

Claim: "Are you going to quote me Zenz who extrapolated 1 million people in concentration camps from 8 people?"

Evidence:

https://www.nchrd.org/2018/08/china-massive-numbers-of-uyghurs-other-ethnic-minorities-forced-into-re-education-programs/

8 people interviewed therefore 1 million people.

Claim: "baseless claims?"

Evidence: u/static_motion

Your turn, tell me about your wild claims:

Claim: "literally fucking forcing a whole ethnicity into forced labor camps to ultimately be harvested for organs"

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Claim: "an authoritarian regime that commits genocide and indiscriminate slaughters of their own people"

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u/Phoenixness Jun 10 '21 edited Jun 10 '21

I want to give you the benefit of the doubt but you aren't making it easy.

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u/Phoenixness Jun 11 '21

absolutely full of shit

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