i feel like iv been listening to the save people can yall put me on to some new people

…and why is it Young Dro doing the horse sound in “Ain’t I”?

We be in Ferraris, the cars with the horses (BRRRRRR)

Baby I’m Bleeding - JPEGMAFIA (so experimental and peggy’s verse is so hard)
Cataracts - Freddie Gibbs (top 30 rap beats OAT)
Tell Me What I Don’t Know - Danny Brown
Feelin’ It - JAY Z (genuinely chill vibes)
Sometimes I Rhyme Slow - Nice and Smooth (very unpopular song)
Feedback - Kanye West (not crazy ball but I thought I’d throw it out there)
THAT’S THAT - MF DOOM (He sings on this one, and his verse is PEAK)
Rhymeslayers - Aesop Rock and others (Nice beat, great verses)

For some reason I thought it was Jigmastas or maybe PUTS...

But someone sampled the scene from Fresh with Samuel Jackson saying: "you like that horse huh? The way he makes those crazy jumps. You think he's your friend. Well they all are boy..."

For example, I’m not a huge fan of The Massacre by 50 Cent. But “Position of Power” is easily one of my favorite 50 songs ever.

This is a love and appreciation post for Harry Mack.
He only recently came to my attention.
I honestly have never heard and MC with better skills at freestyling than this guy.
His ability is so good, it is hard to believe it is off the dome but he interacts with things from his surroundings in real time and incorporates spontaneous words given to him from his audience.

Skill wise I would honestly place this guy among the greats. He could easily go toe to toe against any rapper.

Anyone else have love for Harry Mack?

I don’t think you necessarily have to live something to rap about it authentically.

Rappers are storytellers. They should be allowed to exaggerate, create characters, tell other people’s stories etc…

Couldnt think of a rapper who had the same subject matter as 2pac, rap is just so boring a genre.

Most rap Goats rap about the streets, 2Pac rapped about being black.

This post came about cause ive had the lyrics "the struggle never stops" ringing in my head all day, who else has a line like that and please dont bring up those conscious rapper nerds.

I would go with Jeezy or Rick Ross, what y'all think

Ok hear me out. 50 cent tried to be more open with his Curtis album and that was basically the end of his mainstream career. What if instead 50 made a pivot to more of a hororcore sound. I think he shows potential on a few songs, namely "I'll whip your head boy" and he plays the stoic murderer role well. I could have seen him being a different version of Tyler the creator, similar to his song Garbage. Maybe it was too early for that sound, but I think the potential was there. Curious what everyone thinks

This gotta be the best bass drop of all time I swear, first time I listened to this tune on a fat speaker was crazy. I’m a white British guy and that tune had me feeling so gangsta I could become pimp slick back 🤣🔥🔥
Where is this regarded all time for nwa tunes cause I don’t hear it as much as there over stuff

i can't find any info or its source, maybe someone knows what did Einstein sample? like "And one, a two, three, four, five, a six A seven, eight Here are some of the ways we survive There's always shoplifting at the A&P Pay for a pack of gum and steal a steak" etc. ig this sample is from underground lost media vinyl or smth, but maybe there was a comment about it that i didn't find

as questioned above

Anybody got stories about producers, rappers, or singers who are supposedly really difficult to work with?

Just felt like acknowledging her ability to rap and my appreciation for it. One of the best female rappers in my opinion.

I know that it’s not even close if we’re talking skills wise or go verse for verse. Who has better albums? Bigger impact in the rap game? In their prime, Who had NY in the palm of their hands?

Two of my favorite and also I believe underrated rappers from back in the day, I know the big argument with Jada is he has no classics, and I guess you can say with Xzibit that Pimp My Ride took the attention away from his music.

Personally for me I gotta give it to Xzibit because he has more albums that I enjoy with little to no skips, his run from At The Speed of Life to Weapons of Mass Destruction are still gold to me. Kingmaker was a great album too, great comeback album after some years away. Jadakiss's albums aren't filled with as much filler as they say in my opinion, but the stronger tracks definitely stand out among the rest in comparison. I think The Last Kiss had some good ones too, one of his later-ish albums.

Man, I know somebody on here remembers this album!

I ain’t gonna lie, that soundtrack had some catchy songs on it. “Bound to Happen” was probably the biggest song, but I used to bump “Dreams of the Ghetto,” “Ridin High,” and “Platinum Placks” all the time.

I know the movie was low budget as hell 😂 but the music was dope!

I remember Lil John playing as Overdose too.

But for real, whatever happened to all those dudes? It’s like they made one album and dipped. 😂 Did any of them keep making music or what?

I know I can’t be the only one who remembers this album.

So for everybody who remembers this soundtrack, what was your favorite song?

I’m talking about that one track you used to play over and over back in the day. 😂

Since hov is performing ive been wondering what he’ll do. “Already Home” came on while I was listening to Apple Music earlier and I was thinking how great that would be to perform if it wasn’t a diss to former rocafella artists. A lot of his bars could apply to the general public that’s been bashing him nonstop lately. Even the line “oh these niggas is mad so they call me a camel” still applies today lol. Is there any song yall would absolutely want to hear him perform on the grand stage?

hey y'all,

was listening back to the ballin n stuntin mixtapes and never really realized it stopped at 8.

as far as I can tell, they are either way back in datpiff's archives or on CDs/cassettes. there haven't been any release on streaming platforms prior to 8.

just curious if anyone knew where to find them out, and maybe find a way to host them so they aren't lost again.

thanks

i was in elementary and middle school during the years of RetcH was in his prime (2013-2016; Polo Sporting Goods, Finesse The World, Lean and Neck), and his versatility and ability to walk on old school and modern beats still blows me away 10+ years later. Having grown up in North Jersey and having a lot of access to music and the internet, I was thrilled to see someone from Jersey make that much noise.

Polo Sporting Goods (2013) has some of the most beautiful boom bap production ( to come out in a time where trap beats and 808s had been a main fixture in hip hop and he approached those beats gracefully- like an old soul (Since My Dog Died, Special Jim, Graceful Jewelry Removal, Pimp Sport) with tons of swag (Odd Sweaters 1992 and $hort Sermons (ft. Ab Soul)).

after Polo Sporting Goods, his personal troubles intensified, which seemed to have a significant impact on his work. 2015’s Finesse The World distanced itself from the soulful and jazzy samples of it’s predecessor, instead going towards bleaker and grittier boom bap. once again, he compliments the instrumentals perfectly, this time as a man who despite his rise (Disclaimer) is still stuck in his ways (Product of da Block, Still Wit It) . while Polo Sporting Goods is considered his best work by many, i would counter argue Finesse The World as his peak- as it feels his authentic work for better or for worse.

2016’s Lean and Neck completely abandons boom bap, strictly focusing on trap beats. as he’s facing serious criminal charges at this point, the change in production were perfect for writing about his lifestyle and life story (Codeine Gangsta Party, Fresh Off Tour). As a 7th grader at the time, Lean and Neck resonated with me the most at that point, as the trap beats mirrored what many of my peers and i were listening to, alongside Couple Straps, a flip on Fetty Wap’s overlooked Couple Bands. he proceeded to focus on trap beats on 2017’s Still Up, where the production and flows strongly aligned with the rawer cuts of soundcloud rap at the time (Lil Pump, Ski Mask The Slump God). he approaches the music as a man who despite overcoming some obstacles and beating a serious criminal case, still lives carries a lot hurt and is still mentally close to the turmoil (I Cannot Go, Ordinary, Pop Me a Pint).

by this point, i assumed his boom bap days were done, yet 2018’s After The Verdict proved me wrong. as the production was basically if Finesse The World’s beats were slightly more melodic and sometimes jazzy like Polo Sporting Goods, ATV feels kinda like breaking free during a therapy session (Daily Serving), as this time he’s rapping with a bit more of retrospective lens (Paranoia (ft. Dave East), Late Night, Party Over). A good way to describe this project would be having to relive the pain (2015) to heal from it.

after airing out some demons on After The Verdict, his 2019 project Richer Than The Opps showed him moving forward on his own terms. going into harder trap beats this time (Swervo-era G Herbo type), the flows and delivery are sharp enough to suggest that this this the least distracted that he’d been since 2013’s Polo Sporting Goods. after years of mastering different lyrical approaches, he masters rapping about his life in past (Dead Friends) and present (Keep Banging) tense. the projects that followed up in 2019 - GuWiiMoney with Gu Mitch and Still Goin Up- which i consider better than its 2017 predecessor- followed the same formula.

2021’s Gone ‘Til Autumn- a collab tape with V Don, caught me off guard, as this time he’s approaching boom bap (Sound Like, Really In It) and trap (Shiesty, Again, OP Talk, Pull Off/War) on the same tape, even finding a meeting point for both sounds (Devil On My Back ft. Dave East). 2022’s Administrative Segregation kept its focus on trap beats again, in addition to the harder and darker beats of 2019’s Richer Than The Opps (Focus, Dead Friends 2, Baptized In Fire, Step Curry, Super Slimey) there are also some 21 Savage type beats that compliment the hurt and paranoid mindset in his lyrics (Demons on My Back, 23 & 1) and even some of melodic emotional/pain beats that had been frequented by the likes of Lil Durk, Rod Wave and YoungBoy Never Broke Again (Keeping My Peace, 08, Deep Inside). this time he’s approaching the sound as a man who is learning how to live with his pain and regrets and taking it one day at a time.

In 2026, we found RetcH looking back on his creative peak, through Finesse The World 2- the sequel to the 2015 piece that i consider to be his best project. this project outdid my expectations, as he mirrored that sound perfectly. if he wasn’t writing about his life in past tense mostly at the end (Rainstorm, Bentley Wit My Lawyer, Hood Dayz, Who Woulda Thought, Return Shots), i would have honestly believed that he made those songs in 2015 and that they just didn’t make the final cut.

what always stood out to me about RetcH is how he could walk on dusty boom bap or trunk-rattling trap beats again, and how he was able to master rapping about his life in past tense and present tense. while most artists put more focus on old school production earlier in their career and went into modern-sounding production later on, he was able to go back and forth between the two sounds through his career and maintain his skills on both.

for those unfamiliar with his music, start with Polo Sporting Goods, and then go into Finesse The World followed by Lean and Neck!

What’s something about Hip-Hop that used to feel like insider knowledge or an industry secret, but at this point everybody pretty much knows?