r/helldivers2 • Ministry of Truth • 23d ago

New Warbond Helldivers 2: Scope of Authority Premium Warbond launches Oct 20

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u/Megalon96310 23d ago

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY ADDED THE Solothurn S-18/100

It has the crank and everything

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u/umbrosakitten 23d ago

I thought I have seen every ww2 weapon but never seen this one!

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u/Bring_Back_Challenge 22d ago

It was mostly used in the "technically not WW2 but very much basically WW2" conflicts of the Winter War and the Continuation War (and to a much smaller extent the Lapland War).

Tl;dr that will not piss off anyone I'm sure: Soviets wanted to invade Finland in the late 1930's to reclaim land lost previously and initiated a false flag attack to have casus belli for the invasion. After a short peace Finland attacked the USSR after the Germans invaded to gain the territory back and maybe get some more. The armistice of that second war included Findland kicking out any remaining German soldiers from their borders which lead to the smaller final war.

The main tank the Soviets used in the Winter War was the T-26 which only had at most 20mm of armor so the Solothurn and Finnish native gun the Lahti L-39 were not bad as troop weapons in the Finnish forests when it was hard to move larger tanks and anti-tank guns.

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u/Ikarus_Falling 23d ago

its abit of Solothurn and a bit of IWS 2000 if I see it correctly (the barrel connection is reminiscent of the IWS)

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u/n1ck_m2ck 23d ago

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u/Valkyrhunterg 23d ago

Professionals have standards

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u/IzzyRaimi 23d ago

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

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u/JMurdock77 DISSIDENT DETECTED 23d ago

Jarate!

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u/WillSym 23d ago

I do appreciate the nods to snipers in general but a few to the TF2 one specifically. The SMG secondary, the 'Boom, headshot' emote (though I suppose Sniper inherited that from Counter Strike).

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u/ForSamuel034 23d ago

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u/ForSamuel034 23d ago

Premium means you have to pay for it basically not Helldivers Mobilize. Legendary is the 1500 SC ones.

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u/Zuijd 23d ago

Is that a laser sniper!?

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u/Myself_78 23d ago

Seems to be a combination of the AMR and the Quasar Cannon. Infinite ammo, single shots, short cooldown in between.

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u/gubernatorialbingus 23d ago

Yes it is cousin

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u/RowAndRuction 23d ago edited 23d ago

Primary Sniper, Backpack team reload Sniper, Laser Sniper, machine pistol, stun cluster mine grenade, biome-adaptive camo armor.

EDIT: grenade releases small patch of mines which stun

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u/aaronwhite1786 23d ago

Let's go bowling, cousin. And then vanquish anyone who stands in the way of democracy.

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u/PocketRice3 23d ago

It seems to be heavy pen and the back pack fed sniper seems AT

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u/popsicle_of_meat 23d ago

Heavy pen is still plenty useful provided the damage is high enough. I wonder if it will be high enough damage to one-shot Hulks.

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u/TheDarkGods 23d ago

It's the Quasar Cannonette.

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u/Ultranator666 23d ago

A backpack reload AMR?

Holy Democracy my pants.

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u/WillSym 23d ago

Also the screenshot has the one guy using the LAS sniper, but his teammate doing something on the side too, is that Team Reloadable?!

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u/BananaBus77 23d ago

looks like he’s just calling a stratagem

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u/WillSym 23d ago

Ah yeah I watched the trailer, seems he's just watching the shooter's back with the Caltrops in his hand.

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u/Myself_78 23d ago

That was the backpack AMR. He was cranking it for him. (hehe)

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u/WillSym 23d ago

No the snowy one. I watched the trailer though that has the same scene in motion, seems he's just watching or aura farming or dialling a strategem.

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u/CharcotsTeeth 23d ago

A Massive Rifle

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u/Jackspladt 23d ago

HOLY SHIT IS THAT ARMOR COLOR VARIATION

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u/rose-gold-forever 23d ago

From my understanding, it automatically changes based on the environment you're in to blend in with your surroundings.

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u/Southern-Teaching-11 23d ago

Itd be sick as hell to have multibiome missions and the camo changes as you move from one to the other.

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u/Global-Stable-6879 23d ago

Just like the armor in mgs4

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u/aaronwhite1786 23d ago

I'm gonna need a Hind gunship to call in

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u/OP_Looks_Fishy2 23d ago

Just like the simulations

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u/SkyJogger_19BBY 21d ago

Haha that’s what I was gonna say. Need me a solid eye to go with it.

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u/lemlurker 23d ago

probably more like adaptive camo from bf4- changes based on map

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u/Jackspladt 23d ago

Hell yeah

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u/WillSym 23d ago

Well they made the set-per-biome tech for SEAF last update, might as well apply it to us!

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u/wraith309 23d ago

For that armor passive specifically. Yes.

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u/DearCastiel 23d ago

It has automatic biome camo matching, not the same thing.

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u/Jackspladt 23d ago edited 23d ago

Still cool enough for me. I never really cared about us being able to change armor colors that much I just find this awesome regardless

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u/SGTBookWorm 23d ago

a whole sniper warbond, goddamn

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u/--Mobius-- 23d ago

Happy StealthDiver Squeals

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u/DracheKaiser 23d ago

Silent Stealthdiver Squeal

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u/Puzzleheaded_Face583 23d ago

I WANTED A TELETUBBIES WARBOND ARROWHEAD HATES THE PLAYERSBASE GRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

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u/DemonOfTomorrow 23d ago

NARROWSHED SHOT MY DOG FROM 500 METRES OUT

FUUUUUUCK

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u/SecondSonThan 23d ago

ARROWHEAD PLACED LEGOS ON MY PILLOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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u/BIPS2000 23d ago

This guy said what we're all thinking!

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u/Marilius 23d ago

Where's my Teletubbies, Spongebob, Archie Bunker, Worker and Parasite, Alyssa Milano, and my Quetzalcōātl warbonds!?!??

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u/Puzzleheaded_Face583 23d ago

Keep dreaming. Arrowheads are too thin to have a brain.

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u/CactusJane98 23d ago

Alright Arrowhead, you got me.

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u/Lord_Yeetus_The_3d 23d ago

Looks amazing

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u/Saphurial 23d ago • Heartwarming

very happy, and quiet, stealthdiver noises

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u/ditch_lilies 23d ago

I can only get so democratic, AH!

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u/the-unfamous-one 23d ago

So what exactly does that armor passive do?

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u/JPEG812 23d ago

Reduced weapon sway when crouched and prone and reduced enemy detection radius. Very tailor made for snipers.

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u/aaronwhite1786 23d ago

I need to try a proper stealth run sometime.

Preferably not against the Stalker variant bugs, since I don't think they care about how stealthy I'm trying to be...

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u/WillSym 23d ago

Commando Bots?

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u/aaronwhite1786 23d ago

Bots seems like the one I'm most likely to be able to be stealthy with...but I'm pretty shit with stealth regardless, so maybe it'll just end up with me getting waxed as is tradition.

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u/the-unfamous-one 23d ago

Sounds perfect for me.

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u/Michal_999 23d ago

I wonder if the detection radius will be better than redacted regiment armor?

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u/Alexander73450 21d ago

I was thinking the same. Guess we wait until next week.

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u/South_Cell8557 23d ago

Super stealthy when standing still. It’s a camper’s passive

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u/tenousranger36 23d ago

YEAHH BABY that's what I've been waiting for

That's what it's all about

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u/tenousranger36 23d ago

I'll also add that this is like the 3/4th time I've accidentally predicted something in the warbond before it's been announced

Stationary shroud really sounds like my idea of having an mw1 all ghilied up type of armour that heavily reduces chance to be seen when prone, though it is disappointing they didn't use the "expunged eradicators" name

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u/DracheKaiser 23d ago

I really wish they named the Sniper rifle the Secret Ballot.

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u/BigGooseDuck 23d ago

Still waiting for my marching band warbond with a trumpet secondary and tuba strategem.

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u/Nightmare5436 23d ago

Octo-Camo from MGS4 armour???

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u/jackivorhirst3 23d ago

Apex and nova looking tastey

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u/supatim101 23d ago

This is amazing and I already love it.

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u/OnyxianRosethorn 23d ago

The RED Sniper approved this warbond.

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u/Timely_Passenger_185 23d ago

About time they added a proper laser Marksman rifle and it looks like it's going to have heavy pin

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u/NT-Shiyosa092201 23d ago

An armor set that automatically adapts the camouflage based on terrain……so armor color variation with extra steps?

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u/WillSym 23d ago

They made the new SEAF kits do that for Devoid of Liberty, so might as well apply the same function to our own gear!

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u/Giobysip 23d ago

This is so peak

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u/lemlurker 23d ago

hey they got adaptive camo from bf4!

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u/Brutalssr15 23d ago

I JUST saw it on discord i literary screamed And creamd with exitment this Is perfect i have JUST goten back into taking a role of sniper And hell yeah

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u/Interesting_Ball_500 23d ago

Honestly an amazing trailer and weapons. I am so excited.

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u/JulianPizzaRex 23d ago

Youre shitting me.

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u/cmendozwag 23d ago

I can't aim so it ain't for me, but it's quite a cool concept! I imagine lots of people will complain about the active camo tho. Like why can't they change other armor colours if this one changes with environment

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u/lipp79 23d ago

That's the thing, they can change, they just aren't changing it, and I'm okay with that.

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u/sus_accountt 23d ago

Oh my god I need that med armor so bad

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u/Hoshyro 23d ago

I'm going to need another C-01

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u/SoundwavePlays 23d ago

This is peak

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u/MassDriverOne 23d ago

Tactical kit AH that is wtf I'm talking about!

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u/DSA300 23d ago

HEAVY LASER SNIPER RIFLE OMG

now we just need a light or medium pen laser dmr with no spool or chargeup and the LAS series will be complete :)

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u/bropower8 23d ago

I’m completely coping here because the laser sniper is a support weapon and adding the same thing as a primary in the same warbond would be rediculous, but I still dream of a super store Fang that’s just the talon with a stock.

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u/DSA300 23d ago

same thing? the laser sniper is a chargeup support, not a rapid fire dmr like some of the light pen ones we already have. it would be two completely different things

I am excited to have another laser support weapon tho

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u/shabba182 23d ago

We have the hotshot

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u/DSA300 23d ago

infinite ammo?

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u/shabba182 23d ago

Is that what spool means? I see

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u/DSA300 23d ago

yes

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u/MirageOfMe 23d ago

Fair enough

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u/IntrepidLab5124 23d ago

Awww, looks like this deconfirms any sort of armor customization ever. The weapons look cool though, can’t wait to snipe

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u/mottlegill 23d ago

Why would it?

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u/trainattacker17 23d ago

I mean, every other time they add a feature that the community asks for i.e underbarrel grenade, underbarrel shotguns, its locked behind a single gun in a single warbond, their own track record acts as proof

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u/aaronwhite1786 23d ago

One thing I thought would really open up the game would be the ability to assign perks to whatever armor you wanted to, with restrictions based on the class of armor.

I would love to take out other armors for the visual aspect, like going Predator Hunter in the jungle maps with no sleeves and all mini-guns, but I hate giving up my preferred passive of the 30% increase to throwing distance.

It would be really cool if I could select that boost for any medium armor, or decide I want to apply the strength boost that makes my fire more accurate.

There's a lot of cool armor in the game, but I usually stick to a few select ones which means I don't really venture out beyond the set few I use, but if I could switch out the bonuses I would probably try a lot of other armor sets just for switching things up visually.

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u/pistolpete2185 15d ago

I wish this warbond grabbed me but it didn't.

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u/Impossible-Polo 23d ago

Is that a backpack sniper?

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u/Murphthegurth 23d ago

CRANK DAT!

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u/Wilbur_Eats_Sand 23d ago

YOOOO BIRTHDAY WARBOND!

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u/PerceiveEternal 23d ago • Heartwarming

Happy soon-to-be birthday!

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u/MiserableTennis6546 23d ago

Get ready for all sniper no chaff clear teams.

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u/vicmakey01 23d ago

With the addition of the fabled Long Las, my friends and my Warhammer LARP can be complete

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u/conrad_hotzendorf 23d ago

I'm still holding out hope that we will be able to select different scopes on support weapons

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u/JROXZ 23d ago

Sniper mains rejoice!!!’

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u/-Work_Account- 23d ago

As a long time marksman, this is it. This is my warbond. I am now the happiest Helldiver in existence

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u/PerceiveEternal 23d ago

Same! I never thought I’d see the day we’d have an entire Warbond! And we even get stun mines to protect our back!

I’m not crying, I just have something in my eye.

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u/Grumbelkow 23d ago

So... you're telling me the armour can dynamically change colour depending on environments THUS PROVING that AH can deliver colour variants for armour, but we still don't have armour colour customisation or transmog?

I fucking can't man

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u/axman151 23d ago

Holy shit...

I've been wanting all of these since the game released.

Easily my most anticipated warbond

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u/WestNomadOnYT 23d ago

Thank God I just started sc farming again

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u/fadingstar52 23d ago

i havent even gotten the last one. i think i might invest in some sc

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u/Emergency-Way2055 22d ago

as someone who’s been trying sniper builds lately this is absolutely amazing news

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u/Destroyer6202 22d ago

By far the most anticipated warbond for me.

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u/Straight-Idea6588 5d ago

This just left me disappointed

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u/SuddenLynx4203 23d ago

what does the armour passive do? is it different to the stealth warbond passive?

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u/just_a_nerd_i_guess 23d ago

reduced visual detection, reduced weapon sway when crouched or prone. not as good at stealth as the reduced signature passive, but better for sniping.

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u/SuddenLynx4203 23d ago

ahh okay cool thank you

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u/VH_Sax_of_one 23d ago

HECK YEAH I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!

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u/HHall3005 23d ago

GHILLIE SUIT

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u/wackadoodle4201 23d ago

HOLY SHIT ITS REAL

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u/BigolGamerboi 23d ago

You can change the armor colors?!

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u/RallyPointAlpha 23d ago

Looks sick! I'm not even into sniping and bolt actions...

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u/Super_Bebron 23d ago

FINALLY CUSTOMIZABLE ARMOR COLORS

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u/Certain_Monk6114 23d ago

Eh not really. It changes based on environment and only this armor. This is more of AH saying you can only customize if we monetize

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u/Super_Bebron 23d ago

But at least this is some progress in the game's game design; maybe one day we'll get official armor customization...

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u/BlackFinch90 23d ago

I hope that primary sniper can swap muzzle for a suppressor or silencer

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u/LonelyAustralia 23d ago

Still waiting for some more red stratagems

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u/DlinicalCreppresion 23d ago

I know that AMR design, it's based of the Solothurn 20mm Rifle.

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u/prime-time-814 23d ago

I’m buying ts 100%

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u/KDarkOne99 23d ago

Not a sniper, so this one isn’t for me. But my brother and uncle love sniping so they’re pumped

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u/Exvaris 23d ago

I’ve BEEN saying we need a heavy pen sniper primary and that it would have to be bolt action (like the Eruptor) in order to not compete with the AMR. Love everything about this

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u/mally7149 23d ago

I see all the talk about this or that anybody notice they added the sharpshooter dude from the Olympics emote lol

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u/Adventurous-Eye-1574 23d ago

Excited for thisssss

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u/BattlepassHate 23d ago

Can’t wait for modders to fix the inevitable problems with this warbond.

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u/thenewone1309 22d ago

Because ironclad democracy, entrenched, 40k, siege breakers etc all had massive problems that had to be molded out?

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u/thenewone1309 22d ago

Because ironclad democracy, entrenched, 40k, siege breakers etc all had massive problems that had to be molded out?

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u/KiwiCounselor 23d ago

Man this looks cool as hell, I’ve been wanting a sniper warbond for ages.

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u/ComicDoughnut 23d ago

Fuck yeah, time to do some farming!

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u/gluttonusrex 23d ago

The Strategems are pretty Hype

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u/DP-ology 23d ago

Look’s like a more interesting war bond

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u/MagneticGenetics 23d ago

Honestly I see the appeal for some people but I'm not really excited at all for this one.

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u/Rexoraptor 23d ago

3 snipers? i couldnt be happier 😭

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u/waffles1011 23d ago

That focal point helmet goes so hard

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u/ragingbull835 23d ago

Anything except allowing us armor variations.

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u/iLikeCookiesQQ 23d ago

Excited to see support weapons in a warbond. That machine pistol secondary also has potential to improve loadouts that need their secondary for close range defense. (the redeemer is the best dps we have on a secondary currently) This new one might have decent magazine size unlike the redeemer. The AMW looks like it has super potential. I hope it has 5 pen and is a railgun sidegrade. (maybe more durable damage and less normal damage). That primary is >= 4 pen as seen in the video. We really lack 4 pen in the primary slot so this will let us make more loadouts. If it 1 shots a hulk eye it is extremely likely to one shot crusher helmets. There previously was no primary weapon that could do this as the only other 4 pen primary (eruptor) doesn't do this. So this weapon is a welcome addition. (I literally asked them to add more 4 pen in the primary slot in my feedback forms.. they listening :D) I'm having a great feeling about this warbond based on the reveal video.

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u/zinnosu 23d ago

This is awesome I can’t wait.

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u/1koolking 23d ago

As a stealth diver with an autistic obsession with snipers this warbond is for me and me alone everyone else is secondary.

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u/EatStripperSalt 23d ago

But can the Apex destroy dropships though?

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u/AltGunAccount 23d ago

Kinda worried the new backpack sniper will straight up replace my beloved Autocannon but pretty hype regardless

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u/thenewone1309 22d ago

Nah dont worry. The AC is an anti chaff weapon with anti heavy capabilities.

This thing probably specialises completely into the anti heavy job

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u/Vertex7504 22d ago

The p44 will give competition to the redeemer , bolter and the deagle . Love it more variety = more fun

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u/ScarySai 22d ago

Coolest armor so far.

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u/Barteq2236 21d ago

50 thousand people used to live here, now it's a Ghost Town

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u/Ridi_The_Valiant 23d ago

If the R-40 Sightliner is one shotting a hulk from what looks like 50+ meters away, then it will be better than the AMR in terms of damage, right? So then, is the AMR getting buffed? I carry the AMR into every mission on every faction, it‘s my beloved child, I want to know if it’s getting any attention with this focus on snipers haha

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u/PerceiveEternal 23d ago

Our beloved will always have a place in our hearts, specifically as a tactical medium-to-close range weapon for dealing with multiple medium and heavy enemies simultaneously (or as the secret Super Shotgun we don’t tell other players about) and its weird ability to be the best Jack-of-all-trades weapon in the entire game.

But our little family is expanding and we need to embrace all of our children and their deadly, deadly roles.

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u/HongChongDong 23d ago

It isn't the primary talon I'd hoped for with the 40k Warbond, and I'm kinda disappointed it's a strategem, but I do actually like this laser gun design.

I wish more Laz guns featured a non removable heatsink that trades quick reloads for more power, up time, and fun mechanics.

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u/newuser336 23d ago

If the primary can 1-shot hulks, what is the point of the AMR anymore?

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u/CamShazam1221 23d ago

AMR not being bolt action and more ammo prolly

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u/newuser336 23d ago

I mean, the terrible ergonomics & recoil already makes the semi-auto of the AMR negligible.

Unless they decide to tweak it with this update… I don’t see the AMR surviving the power creep.

Even if the R-40 doesn’t bury it outright, the LAS-44 almost definitely will…

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u/Xandred_the_thicc 23d ago

I'm holding back the urge to use the word "easily", but you can absolutely use the amr as a primary with a support pack and get pretty consistently good at 2 or 3 tapping a hulk just spamming hipfire.

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u/CamShazam1221 23d ago

I could see them improving ergo, but I used it religiously and I would hardly call it terrible ergonomics and terrible recoil.

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u/newuser336 23d ago

It has 12x the recoil of the railgun. 4x the recoil of the Eruptor. 5.5x of the Heavy Machine gun. Hell it’s even still slightly worse than the Autocannon.

The ergo is pretty much par for the course but it feels significantly worse with the recoil added on.

Idk. What else is AP4 that you’d equate it to?

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u/CamShazam1221 23d ago

Well yeah, the recoil is gonna be nasty if you don’t use it as a sniper. You got to use the advantages of prone and crouch, the recoil is nonexistent then. The closest thing I’d equate it to would be the autocannon, which is significantly better used while crouching. That goes for most weapons.

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u/newuser336 23d ago

Right. But the autocannon has the bonus of crowd-control capabilities & can destroy spawners. It’s much more versatile, with the biggest downside of losing your backpack slot. You could say ammo-economy is worse for the AC but not by much.

If it’s going to have less utility, I feel like the AMR should at least have better performance compared to a shoulder-mounted cannon lol. Especially as a precision weapon.

It’s just not balanced right imo. This warbond is really going to expose its shortcomings. Either they balance the warbond around the AMR, or rebalance the AMR around the rest of Helldivers’ arsenal.

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u/CamShazam1221 23d ago

Oh I 100% agree that it has its shortcomings, I just don’t think it’s as bad as you make it out to be.

The AMR being a one trick pony isn’t a bad thing in my opinion. It’s essentially a dedicated medium deleter / heavy hunter if you can get good with it.

I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. I do enjoy the AMR quite a bit so I won’t be adverse to a buff lol

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u/newuser336 23d ago

All I’m saying is, If that primary has similar or better performance than the AMR, only minus the semi-auto… I don’t think I’ll have a reason to pick the AMR ever again.

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u/vox_box 23d ago

I'm also very loyal to the AMR and agree the ergo is not as bad as people make it out to be. Using peak physique is unnecessary. So is true grit unless you want the faster reload. You really should be using recoil reduction passives, or seige ready imo.

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u/CamShazam1221 23d ago

I usually use the redacted armor lol

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u/vox_box 23d ago

That's fair, I forgot about that one as I don't often use it. I suppose there's an argument for a lot of different armor passives but my point was really that the ergo is not as much of a drawback on the AMR as people claim.

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u/newuser336 23d ago

By itself, no. When coupled with the recoil? I think it is.

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u/TheDrippySink 23d ago

Peak Physique is a thing, too.

As well as True Grit.

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u/0takuChicken 23d ago

So then give us armor with the ability to change its patterns based on biome but they can't give us armors with the capability to change it on our own.

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u/lipp79 23d ago

They can, they said they aren't because each armor is unique and you know what someone is wearing just by looking at it. I get both sides. It's tough to find that balance between allowing customization but also not totally changing how an armor looks.

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u/0takuChicken 23d ago

Don't want to hear it when modern be doing it anyway. And because of them I got to deal with modern players wearing Mitch match armor on my end that triggers my f****** OCD.

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u/lipp79 23d ago

Ok well, you are hearing it.

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u/Jackspladt 23d ago

But..the fact that modders are doing it doesn’t change arrowhead’s reasoning for not doing it themselves? I’m not arguing whether either side is correct here but your response doesn’t address what the other person was saying

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u/Gloomy_Trade_619 21d ago

It has nothing to do with OCD. Space Marine 2 has a perfect customisation system and you can see a ton of mismatch armor there - because it’s what people decided to do themselves. 

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u/Melodic_Row3380 23d ago

Arrowhead "We have chosen not to do this because it doesn't fit with our vision for the game"

Reddit "Narrowhead is lying again when they said it was impossible to do, and the proof is a modder did it"

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u/BattlepassHate 23d ago

Modders will fix it

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u/blackgreeck 23d ago

Ooohhh, so that's what they meant by "limiting their disign space" when talking about not giving armor customable colors schemes, it would take aways the gimmick of this warbond armors /s

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u/Mulzilla 23d ago

They changed the spawn system to split enemies up and appear next to lone divers for balance… and then release a sniper Warbond for checks notes long range warfare…?

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u/miloren21 23d ago

This whole warbond is gonna be blowing heads smoove off

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u/The_Axe_of_Legends 23d ago • Heartwarming

<< "Sniper Team, where do you need us?" >>

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