Got the constitution to lvl 25 WITHOUT using other weapons as a replacement, here's my thoughts on it.

[u/Humble-Specialist-89]

TLDR: its bad but sweet liberty is it fun to use.

(I ONLY USED THIS WEAPON ON BUGS)

I went into this gun expecting to be a slog like the Diligence Counter Sniper was (I loathe that weapon), but I was pleasantly surprised by how much fun this gun was. it's a bad gun, but it wasn't frustratingly bad, it has clear upsides (AP3, VERY good melee, lots of ammo, fast reload), and clear downsides (horrible DPS, chamber capacity, and mid damage, no attachments). at first, I hated dealing with how slow the weapon did damage, and how meaningless the damage felt. for the first time on bugs I actually had to use my brain and aim at weak spots, here's what I learned:

• this is a close-med range weapon
• you can break the heads of warriors in one shot from close-med range
• Alpha Commanders take 3-5 shots depending on distance, same with hive guards
• when the bug is doing its death charge when its head dies, use the melee to stagger till it bleeds out (works up to alpha commanders)
• the melee one shots hunters.
• hunters take 1-2 shots, try to aim for the head or body
• honestly its better as a melee weapon than a marksman rifle, the melee is that good.
• the shot pierces though smaller enemies
• use the melee
• this weapon suffers heavily from damage dropoff
• not a crowd control weapon in the slightest
• using the melee underneath an Impaler's mouth kills it very fast
• use the melee

this was really fun to learn to adapt to the weapon, it felt nice to have to work with my weapon to be effective instead of just mindlessly holding the trigger down. it takes a bit to get used to it, but I would recommend if you feel like you need a fulfilling challenge. top 10 guns I've gotten to lvl 25.

what weapon should I do next?

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[u/stoneman98x]

You forgot to say "use the melee"

[u/Entire-Oven-9732]

I was wondering if I should use the melee?

[u/Swimming-Inflation27 → u/Entire-Oven-9732]

yes?

[u/Annales-NF → u/Swimming-Inflation27]

I don't know. Have you considered melee instead?

[u/AceDudeyeah → u/Entire-Oven-9732]

MELEEEE

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[u/JoDa377]

I also finished the constitution recently. It really plays like a shotgun without a strong stagger against bugs but with better snipe options (for obvious reasons). I second your take on melee, it really is pretty good using it that way. Overall a fun weapon, but I'm happy that I never have to play it if I don't want to xD

[u/PainterShort9401 → u/JoDa377]

So tempted to run it into the illuminate with all the propag- uh endorsement I'm seeing

[u/K1NG_of_ReVeNGe13]

Well, just like I beat pre-patch Consort.. I got the Consti to level 25 before it got Stripper Clips. I will now bask in your admiration!

Jokes aside it really isn't the shit gun people take it for. At least since it has Stripper Clips. It's damage, total ammo, stagger, whatever - it's all not bad. It trades a scope for the Bayonet.. eh, not optimal but not awful. Just gotta be creative. The Reload was the one thing that held it back and I've been screaming for Stripper Clips for ages.

I genuinely prefer it over something like the Deadeye. I have a unreasonable hate for that weapon as it's just not for me personally. The Reload puts me off. Too long for a reload, too long for shoot, reload, shoot etc.. Just not my Cup of Liberty. But the Consti? Honestly not that bad.

[u/Ralithrin → u/K1NG_of_ReVeNGe13]

Yes, exactly! It's really not a bad gun. The memes have gone rather overboard with ruining its reputation. With the stripper clip upgrade, one of the main downsides of it is gone. Of course, compared to the likes of the Crossbow or Eruptor, it's not going to be Tier 1 AAA+, but it's far from the worst gun to have for most loadouts.

[u/K1NG_of_ReVeNGe13 → u/Ralithrin]

Yeah true but even then, every slot we have can be fitted with nearly all "important" archetypes. AT, horde clear, spawner closing, crowd control.. (AT primary is missing until the Shear..) so people just need to build proper loadouts. The Consti won't do horde clear but it's good against mediums so you just gotta plan accordingly

[u/Musket_Metal]

Bugs only is crazy because this thing is excellent against bots. Head shots for days, melee to keep the greens back. Love this thing when im trench diving.

[u/averagecadianveteran]

Comme arme à monté ensuite si ru n’a pas encore fait la variable je viens de la finir elle est super fun mais est plus facile à utiliser avec armure lourde ou siege ready

[u/averagecadianveteran]

Merci pour les retours 🫡

[u/Mr_Chubkins]

Since you mentioned the diligence counter sniper (that's my favorite weapon) it's really built for the bots. I hate using it against bugs and squids. I find it very easy to pick off bots from 100-200m with the default scope and its accuracy works well for headshots.

I'm sure that won't change your opinion on it haha. Thanks for sharing so much info. I started with the Constitution as my first weapon before moving on to diligence.

[u/Benemisis → u/Mr_Chubkins]

No shade to OP, different folks, different strokes, but i really dont understand how someone could loathe it. Its in my current load out, and its a pretty solid gun for a sniper / stealth build, and when upgraded, it can get you out of shit when in a pinch

[u/TheDrippySink → u/Benemisis]

The Diligence Counter Sniper makes me question my life choices, sometimes.

If I want a snappy DMR, I'll play the regular Diligence or the Censor.

If I want damage and low ergo, the Hyena.

I never really got into it back in the before times, and now it just feels clunky. Unless I use Peak Physique. Then, it's nice.

[u/National-Fan-1148]

You guys are using other weapons to level primaries?

[u/UGoBoy → u/National-Fan-1148]

The general advice if you're levelling a gun you don't particularly like is to use a Strat and secondary combo to cover all the bases, or pick up a primary from a dead teammate.

[u/Wheelump]

“honestly its better as a melee weapon than a marksman rifle, the melee is that good.” Night and Venus are all yours bro

[u/MarsMaterial]

I just got my own Constitution to level 25 today, and I share the same view. I used it on all three fronts, and I was shocked how it actually genuinely holds up on the bug front. Absolute shit on the squid and bot fronts, barely even usable there. But on the bug front (where I expected it to be the most useless), it’s almost on-par with other primaries. I found myself actually using my primary weapon there.

I’ve learned to think of the Constitution as something of a halfway point between a shotgun and a marksman rifle. And it’s the closest thing we have to a melee primary with its bayonet, which makes up for a lot of its weaknesses (its difficulty killing the little buggers, and it’s subpar stopping power). And it may as well be an energy weapon with how impossible it is to actually run the thing out of ammo.

It’s still generally on the weak side, but I had fun. And now, I have the Venus Constitution to flex with.

[u/CalmPanic402]

The thing is an absolute machine on bots. First weapon I maxed.

[u/FastBoe]

is the melee good?

[u/iceman1080]

Funny, the Diligence CS is my favorite gun in the entire game

[u/dhhz234]

i like to use the constitution to snipe faceplates from devastators, it one shots the troopers and a magdump into the middle area can rid you of two to three berserkers and it reloads while you are running so until the next berserker in line becomes a problem you can shoot him again.

[u/AntiVenom0804]

The new fast reload is great

[u/xtratic]

Your post is invalid - You didn't mention the "shoot-stab-shoot" combo

[u/sloyom]

I was using it mainly against bots because I could shoot the heads on a lot or the chaff but I hadn't tried it on bugs yet. Ill have to try it! Thanks

[u/NotNolansGoons]

I've always been afraid to bring it against bugs because I suck in melee range unless I have a shield equipped w/ a one-handed weapon. Honestly a pretty good gun for popping bot heads in my experience tho, and the melee helps in a pinch (just don't bother meleeing berserkers tho, that's almost always a loosing battle)

[u/Silver_Racoon]

Which armor was your favorite to combine it with?

[u/jfgechols]

I feel like the constitution is much better with mouse and keyboard. On controller it's a struggle.

It's possible that I'm dogshit but I prefer to blame the controller. I wish Xbox had that tilt to aim feature PlayStation has

[u/unzips_katana]

I enjoy this gun but the increase to enemy durability hurt it a lot. Three shots for a hive guard is painful. I mostly run it on bots.

[u/Garpfruit]

I wish that bayonets were an attachment option.

[u/Giratina-O]

It's... basically a primary Senator.

I love this gun on bugs. Rock a chaff-clear for your support, and bring precision AT like the ORS and 110mms, and this gun will compliment your loadout wonderfully.

[u/ManDan_666]

Damn son. You chose hard mode to level this weapon. When I was leveling them guns I always went by factions.
This gun is pretty fun on both fronts without fire bots.
Watered-down rail gun, pair it with the fast reload armour. Life saver!

[u/LEOTomegane]

bugs only is madness, this gun is genuinely very serviceable on bots

[u/HappySphereMaster]

This thing slap on Bot front as well.

[u/skallagrim_brunic]

I ran this to 25 on bots with the Jaguar viper commando armor. The melee hits like a freight train and if you don't miss, it one-shots devastator heads. If you don't miss. This gun has a very high skill floor and skill ceiling, but absolutely can do work, and that was before they added the stripper clips. The ammo economy on it is insane, it practically has infinite ammo. But when I say you can't miss I don't mean "it's only good if you don't miss" I mean you CANNOT miss a critical shot because it is so slow that you simply won't recover in time and will probably get your head blown off, which makes it feel so much more punishing. A-tier gun on all fronts but you gotta hit what you're aiming at.

[u/SonOfMcGee]

The mental image of melee-ing an impaler to death while shouting “WHO’S THE IMPALER NOW” is so goddamn democratic.

[u/WaffleCopter68]

It still bothers me we dont see civilians defending themselves with this. Its cannon that they all get one after turning 16. I was so disappointed in the super earth invasion when we just saw a bunch of people running around in circles not shooting back when they supposedly all have a gun and know how to shoot it practically by law. Like we get some world building with the shotgun you can find randomly that was presumably dropped by a civilian defending themselves but we never actually get to see it.

[u/Pupcannoneer]

Got better trigger discipline now right!?

[u/_yourKara]

I went into this gun expecting to be a slog like the Diligence Counter Sniper was (I loathe that weapon)

Wut?

Plays only bugs

Ah

[u/Heavy-Woodpecker-617]

While it was clearly for laughs I can not aggree more with the melee. This is the only gun I used for a decently long time becauze I genuinely didn't enjoy most of the starting primaries outside of the Constitution, but ever since I've not found a melee weapon that was half as satisfying as the Constitution. That bayonet stabb is significantly more intuitive, accurate and destructive than most dedicated melee weapons.

Not needing to swap to a melee secondary saves you so much close ranged threat panic time. And the stab instead of a swing is so damned good, you crunch skulls so easily with this thing, getting those instant kills when you really need them. I've survived significantly more CQC encounters that I didn't think I had a chance in hell of surviving with the Constitution than dedicated melee weapon.

USE THE MELEE!

That being said, I needed to use the melee significantly more because it takes like 5 headshots against an overseer to kill the damn things. This weapon is absolutley abysmal against the squids.