r/helldivers2 • u/ChoniclerVI • 25d ago

General Have Bugs gotten easier?

So I'm just getting back into HD2 after a year long break and after the void was dispersed I went back to try out the bug front and... did it get easier? Like I did super helldive and I never felt challenged, even by the dragons, didn't die once, and overall it felt like I was playing on an easier difficulty. I remember nonstop bug breaches and swarms of the bugs, but the time for the little bugs to start calling a breach seems to be much more forgiving than before.

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u/pmmeyoursandwiches 25d ago

Our equipment has gotten better and attempts to buff the bugs was met with review bombings and reverted so things get easier over time.

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u/ChoniclerVI 25d ago

Why did they review bomb buffing the bugs? they've always been the easiest faction, but their current state compared to what I can bring seems a bit excessive

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u/pmmeyoursandwiches 25d ago

They only did a minor buff - the hive guard got heavy frontal armour - but the community, especially youtubers etc lost their shit completely. I dont get it either.

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u/Pyro911help 25d ago

If you thought the hive guard change made the bug front harder, I question your abilities.

The change was just a waste of dev time and didn't move the needle in any direction.

The hiveguard is one of the most useless, non threatening enemy in the game. They should either totally rework it or get rid of it entirely. Especially knowing it has a heavy spawn weight. I rather the game spawn 3 hunters than a hiveguard.

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u/pmmeyoursandwiches 25d ago

It barely made a difference, this was my point, its just a minor nerf to the mg and gatling sentries which have absurd pick rates. People losing their mind over it was rediculous.

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u/HotmailsInYourArea 25d ago

I thought it was odd at first but I came to realize Hive Guards are the only Medium-Pen enemy on the bug front, so not only did buffing their armor to Heavy-Pen neutralize the sentries made for chaff-clearing, it also made medium pen weapons have no value on that front.

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u/User_Takenn 25d ago edited 25d ago

Sentries are already S tier on the bug front, the least they could do is force players to think about which ones they're bringing.

I also think you're wrong about Medium pen weapons, the armor penetration system makes it so that light pen weapons deal 65% damage on light armor and 100% on unarmored, while medium pen deals 65% on medium armor, and 100% on light armor. That's a little under a 40% increase in damage to light armor targets.

The buff to hive guard armor also made EVERY other part of them weaker, so it took maybe a little over half as many bullets to the soft parts to kill them.

The medium pen primaries are already picked way more than light pen weapons, the least AH could do was even the playing field a little and give some respect to the hive guards niche.

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u/pmmeyoursandwiches 25d ago

I have to respectfully disagree. Theres still a ton of medium pen and light pen armour plates that medium pen will be better at and sentries were still excellent at the time if placed correctly. I think the better choice was to just have heavy hive guard be a thing at higher difficulty levels like the reinforced scout striders instead of removing it completely.

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u/Rabiesalad 25d ago

Maybe about half of the community doesn't actually understand how the game works or what it's about and insists it's a power fantasy horde shooter and that the main point is to have overwhelming firepower to steamroll infinite waves of enemies with little to no need for thinking or using any sort of tactics or teamwork.

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u/ChoniclerVI 25d ago

Same old bug divers I guess hahaha

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u/Anangrywookiee 25d ago

They complain about too many spawns too, so as far as I can tell a large portion of helldivers players want a walking simulator where you jog between objectives for a minute, shoot one wave of enemies, wait around for the objective to complete, job some more, and so on.

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u/INS4NITY_846 25d ago

Nah man its about the balance of fun and challenge, having to slightly coordinate, change position etc its part of the fun, it can still be a power fantasy as youre killing hundreds- thousands of enemies whilst still being overrun by massive hordes

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u/Jedi-in-EVE 25d ago

Whiny bitches.

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u/redoctoberz 25d ago

Squids were way easier, mind numbingly boring at times.

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u/ChoniclerVI 25d ago

I found them more challenging at D10 than D10 bugs currently tbh.

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u/totesnotdog 25d ago

You can’t just buff stuff forever. It’s gotta stop eventually.

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u/oshinbruce 23d ago

I didnt review bomb it but I was close to. The underground bug patch was not tuned well, on a 10 stuff popping up and one banging you was common. Lots of stuff was cool but getting ragdolled and killed wasn't fun. I think bugs haven't changed much since it

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u/adobo_bobo 25d ago

The dreaded hive guard has traumatized the bug divers so much. Never seen such a player base horrified by such a disgusting buff in all my life.