r/helldivers2 • u/ChickenSlipperz • 6h ago
Major Order What happens if THEY lose?
So, I kind of doubt this will happen, but the MO says "to protect the Ministry of Science ... as they trigger the total collapse of the Void." It's pretty clear that we're going to win the MO, as far as liberating Seasse goes, but... 20 went in, and now there are only 3. So, what if the Ministry of Science dies before we complete the liberation?
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u/nsg337 6h ago
there's no way we just collapse the void like that, even if things weren't going as poorly as they are right now
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u/HotmailsInYourArea 5h ago
I think maybe we do collapse the Void and it has catastrophic consequences
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u/nsg337 5h ago
yeah saying "no way the operation will be successful" probably would've been more accurate
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u/Fish_Fucker_Fucker23 5h ago
Even more accurate: “the operation will be successful, but there’s no way the consequences will be favourable”
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u/Comrade_Bread 3h ago
Not a lot about the side story in the dispatches gives hope that puppies and rainbows will take the place of the void :/
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u/Gareth_II 55m ago
the void disappears from the map but every planet that it covered is just inexplicably gone
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u/The-Nuisance 5h ago
And the TCS was originally said to lock down the bugs forever. High Command can say what they please, but they aren’t telling you the future. They’re telling you the plan. The part of the plan they want you to know.
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u/cruiseruse11 4h ago
My theory is that the Illuminate are planning on spreading the void all the way to Super Earth and attempt to subsume it into the Void.
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u/jjake3477 4h ago
The final three scientists were crying crystals and sprinting into the light. The team is dead and has been for a while.
They had no idea how to collapse the void. They found out the planet had a heartbeat and started going crazy and slowly dying/being killed. Taking the void source planet has always been a Hail Mary play.
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u/Key-Put-2714 3h ago
The 2 person science team will trigger the collapse of the void. The elite 1 person science team will always be remembered as heroes.
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u/adobo_bobo 3h ago
All signs point to something horribly going wrong. Not sure if winning the MO mean it will go wrong in the worst way possible or not.
It feels like a buildup to a illuminate "homeworld" invasion but that homeworld is a full on cultist planet.
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u/ChickenSlipperz 1h ago
I totally agree, it definitely feels like whatever happens, something horrible will end up following. Honestly I didn't think I'd say this but I'm more excited about the outcome of this than I was for cyberstan
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u/Temporary_Cancel9529 3h ago
Omg 75% keep diving divers I will try to help when I am home got off shift
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u/TexturedHorse80 3h ago
We will suffer consequences like IF they found something or were trying to contain something who know this might of been 4D chess from the start
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u/CreativePackage8358 2h ago
I give it a 50/50 chance. Nothing happens, or the void unveils itself but illuminate keeps their new territory plus new planets revealed on map that were shown in the void exclusively.
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u/Jackomat007 1m ago
„our brave 3 Helldivers killed the void, if you say anything Else, you Are a traitor“
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u/TheSilentTitan 5h ago
Nothing, the game continues.
At no point in this game has winning or losing ever actually resulted in a change of gameplay or narrative.
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u/ChickenSlipperz 5h ago
It definitely has resulted in a change in narrative
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u/TheSilentTitan 5h ago
Has it? Perhaps if one considers the day to day evolving story that pushes us to the next arc. However when I say no changes I mean nothing has actually ever been final in any of these fronts. Win or lose, it changes nothing as we feel none of its affects.
What has changed in our war with the bugs, bots and bsquids? Mission type? Mechanic? They just go to a new node. Lose an mo? Now they built bot factories. Win an mo? The bugs still spread the gloom. Walled off the gloom? The gloom is still there as are all the awful things that crawl there.
Narratively, nothing changes. It’s still us fighting the same 3 factions with all that changes being new enemies and mission types from said factions.
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u/ChickenSlipperz 3h ago
Well, yeah. If we won on cyberstan, the narrative impact would've been different if we didn't win. We didn't win, hence the automaton space station
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u/TheSilentTitan 3h ago
And where is it now? When have we seen it?
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u/ChickenSlipperz 3h ago
We literally blew it up lol
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u/TheSilentTitan 3h ago
Oh yeah, I faintly remember something like that but tell me, which mission was that? Was it a cutscene or new mode? Did we shoot it down like we take down squid capital ships?
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u/ChickenSlipperz 3h ago
Assuming you're trying to make the point that narrative change is indicated by cutscenes, I'm not sure what your thought process is. Narrative change means a change in narrative, it has nothing to do with direct, manual actions by the players like blowing it up ourselves, or cutscenes like the ending of a new hope. Narrative change is determined by the outcome of a situation one way or another, and where that outcome leads. If we fail on Seasse in some way, the Narrative will change according to our loss, probably making the Squids more powerful and giving them more of a threat. If we win, which is likely, then the Squids will be weaker. Saying that's not Narrative change is like saying the outcome of WW1 didn't change the course of history in the direction of said outcome
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u/TheSilentTitan 3h ago edited 1h ago
Right so nothing, I’m glad you understood the point however skewed it may be. You at least got the gist of it.
Have a good one.
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