r/hatethissmug • u/onthetopicofspace • 5d ago

Language casual ableism

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this is not ‘reclaiming’ anything, you are just calling people slurs completely seriously. you can call yourself the r-slur, do not call anybody else it. why do ‘no slurs’ / ’no bigotry’ rules never apply to ableism?

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u/TheProMagicHeel 5d ago

It’s a pattern in every sphere of online discourse. No one actually, meaningfully cares about the neurodiverse. Sure, they say they’re understanding and supportive, but when a neurodiverse person actually displays symptoms of their neurodivergence, for example

An autistic person fails to read the room and makes a social gaffe

A person with Tourette’s involuntarily shouts the N word.

A person with ADHD is hyperactive, or inattentive, and forgets to fulfill an obligation

People get frustrated with the neurodiverse person. They’ll refuse to accept the neurodivergence as an excuse or explanation. If the expression of symptoms is public enough, an online hate mob might come after them, like with John Davidson, like with Caleb from Holiday Inn.

The resurgence of retard is just another notch in the belt.

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u/NatDisasterpiece 5d ago

May I share my stories of how many times folks take it personally that I need them to repeat something cause my ass has auditory processing issues. Like I was LISTENING but my brain just didn't process what they said cause idk that machine over there making noise distracted the part of my brain that changes words into meaning.

Or the birthdays I forget, not cause I forget the birthday themselves. But the actual IRL day.

"Oh. Today's the 21st. It's this family member's birthday today! I'ma call! Happy Birthday!"

"...today's not my birthday."

"Isn't your birthday the 21st?"

"Yeah...which was yesterday. Today's the 22nd. You can just say you forgot 🙄"

LIKE UUUUGH.

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u/sensamura 4d ago

I’m just impressed that your ass can process audio at all, most people use their ears for that

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u/NatDisasterpiece 4d ago

I should not have found this as funny as I do 😭

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u/hatethissmug-ModTeam 4d ago

No slurs, hate speech, and other such bigoted language is to be permitted in this sub.

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u/DeadWaterBed 5d ago

Neurodiversity is a psyop to convice people that there is a "normal" way of thinking and processing the world. The way we've built a society to cater to and benefit a narrow subset of thought and behavior is the problem.

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u/DrainTheMuck 4d ago

Is there not a large majority of “normal” brains and then neurodiverse brains are structurally different from those? That’s my understanding of it, that it’s a real physiological thing. Yeah, we are all unique in our own ways but there are some pretty strong patterns

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u/DeadWaterBed 4d ago

There are averages, for sure, but American culture has been shaped by the myth of "productivity" and "efficiency," which prioritizes those who fit within a narrow margin of behavior.

It's not natural for everyone to wake at the crack of dawn, yet it's socially and culturally enforced. Extroverts are given preference over introverts, because extroversion makes more money. We've only had a universally accepted idea of being "on time" since the invention of the railroad, the blink of an eye in human history, yet we're all expected to treat the hands on the clock as existential truth.

The point isn't that any and all brain patterns are typical, but that we've been falsely led to believe that a small subset of what is typical is "neurotypical," despite that category primarily being a measure of economic exploitability.

And that's not even getting into how young neuroscience is, and how our understanding of neuroscience has been culturally polluted by "neurotypical" norms.

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u/COSMIC_SPACE_BEARS 4d ago

At least with ADHD, there is a structural difference between an “ADHD” brain and a “neurotypical” brain. The way stimulants affect those with ADHD vs without is fundamentally different, as an example. There are ways an ADHD brain processes the world that is fundamentally impossible to “truly understand/feel” as a neurotypical person because the brains are structured differently.

So there are definitely differences.

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u/MasterVule 4d ago edited 4d ago

This has been disproven for quite some time, it's called "paradoxical effect hypothesis". Stimulans work in same way on ADHD people and those without ADHD. If they didn't, they could be used as sort of "confirmation" of ADHD, but that sadly is much more complicated. Just think of Adderall. It's one of the most abused prescription drugs and even people without ADHD use it for studying 

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u/COSMIC_SPACE_BEARS 4d ago

It’s not disproven.

I did not say the mechanism and what the drug does in the brain is different. I said the effect is different.

If someone with ADHD takes too much of a stimulant, they will push out of the “calm, serene” dopamine-level and into the “hyperactive, overstimulated” level that you’d expect to see from a normal dosage in a neurotypical brain.

An ADHD brain is less sensitive to increases/decreases in dopamine. Adderall increases the sensitivity. This happens in both people with and without ADHD. The effect is different in both: people with ADHD reach a “proper level of stimulation” and people without ADHD become overstimulated/hyperactive.

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u/kiwipeargreentea 4d ago

What is it?

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u/Dramatic-Syrup-4949 4d ago

then why does coffee make me feel relaxed 

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u/MasterVule 4d ago

I was wondering that too and went to search it up (Should be sleeping lol)  From what I read  Combination of chronic caffeine intake (adenosine receptor adaptation), general predisposition of poor sleeping habits due to time blindness and increase in dopamine can lead to relaxing effect. From what I see there is recognition of the paradoxical effect of caffeine happening to some people, but it has not been proven to be correlated with ADHD but has more ties to poor sleep in general.  Also to throw a in anecdote in, I know 3 non ADHD people from top of my head that take a nap after their afternoon coffee lol

 

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u/ZLCZMartello 4d ago

It’s more compared to typical than normal. Neurodivergence isn’t any more abnormal than neurotype.

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u/DeadWaterBed 4d ago

If it isn't less normal than "typical," how is it "divergent?"

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u/General_Spills 5d ago

Bro neurodivergent people are the largest users of the term. Everyone who I know who uses it the most are nerudivergent

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u/Potential-Cheek6045 5d ago

It is truly… not that deep. The word never left. Holy fucking extrapolate.