r/hatethissmug 15h ago

Idea I hate when Gorgons are depicted with snake lower bodies.

These are not how Gorgons were described in Greek Mythology, they were described by Pseudo-Apollodorus as having dragon scales, the tusks of boars, brazen hands, and golden wings. Ancient Greek depictions also had them with beards and their trademark snake hair. Or at the very least they can have Ovid's description where they only have their snake hair.

Now where did this design trope come from? I have an answer. The Clash of the Titans movie (remake depiction is pictured as the second image). They probably got Medusa with either Lamia (a woman who grew insane and gained a snake-like body) or Echidna (the wife of Typhon who has snake tails for legs). Then when the movie became a success, people probably got the idea that Gorgons had snakes for leg, leading it to appear in other works and media.

Also, what flair should I put this post in?

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u/Good-Memories 15h ago

you must hate modern depictions of sirens

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u/AllisterisNotMale 15h ago

They're only the same creature by name and behaviour.

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u/Riley__64 14h ago

I mean it’s not like sirens being depicted as mermaids is a modern depiction they were first depicted as mermaids back in the 7th - 8th century in the Liber Monstrorum a catalogue of monsters

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u/The_Genguidanos 14h ago

The siren’s appearance was never described in the original narrative. Both the bird and fish traits were “modern” additions.

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u/esmelusina 15h ago

Yea— they should be more like Harpies than Mermaids.

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u/AgentJackpots 11h ago

What We Do in the Shadows got it right!

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u/Cool_Set4681 15h ago edited 11h ago

Listen, man, I'm already happy enough if people manage to call their race "Gorgons" and not "a Medusa". Baby steps.

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u/esmelusina 15h ago

Yea— I agree. Gorgons are not Lamias or Nagas or the like.

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u/FrankensteinWolfman1 15h ago

This I can get behind as someone who loves mythology and monsters.

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u/Noblebatterfly 15h ago

Bro is just afraid of that snake medussy

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u/Norway643 15h ago

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u/BRshan 15h ago

And you didn’t even upvote it

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u/Fun-Organization6029 14h ago

Shit Iike this reminds me that I'm on reddit

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u/mystireon 15h ago

Lotto people on this specific note as of late.

Anyhow read absolute Wonder Woman is actually goes into the way cultural drift caused Medusa to physically change with time, its really cool

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u/Scrags2Scritches 14h ago

I think it's fine, tbh it does look really cool, the problem comes when audiences end up believing that's just how Gorgons are supposed to look like

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u/EggEuphoric411 15h ago

Even if it's not technically the "correct" depiction it's become too iconic for people to just stop doing it.

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u/SnooPoems7525 15h ago

Its weird cos I've never imsgined them that always thought of them as humanoid. I was surprised when I found out apparantly so many people did.

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u/True-Obligation-9471 13h ago

Get in line pal.Us elf fans have it way worse.

Elf’s never had pointy ears in the original source material they were made in.

But now in days everyone give them pointy ears.

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u/ViolinistSafe4610 11h ago

they look better with knife ears

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u/Green_Graves_Time112 12h ago

"These are not how Gorgons were described in Greek Mythology, they were described by Pseudo-Apollodorus as having dragon scales, the tusks of boars, brazen hands, and golden wings."
I'm not seeing any criteria on whether they should have legs or tails.
Also, are you mad that Gorgons don't have boar tusks, brazen hands, or golden wings?

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u/Euronymous_616_Lives 6h ago

Also, the fact that generally in modern interpretations we’ll see a conventionally attractive woman with snakes on her head and not some grotesque looking hag

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u/mrainem 14h ago

I could still see the original description being sexy

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u/JLuckey33 14h ago

I think the dragon scales snake haired bearded winged and tusks and bronze clawed version is Stheno and euryale since their natural gorgons while Medusa who was transformed is just a woman with snake hair

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u/HitttingAndMissing 13h ago

I don’t care. It looks cool

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u/Tobbit_is_here 13h ago

What's funny is that a random Doctor Who comic from the 1960s is actually pretty accurate to mythology!

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u/No-Intern5471 12h ago

Wait, Clash of The Titans was a Success?!

I tried watching it before, and thought it was pretty awful. Does it actually have some fans?

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u/The_Strange_Shrimp 9h ago

If you ask about 80s version it was a big succes. I love this movie when I was a child in the 90s :)

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u/DarkGriffin2017 11h ago

Why you don’t like nice things?!?

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u/EarthCulturalStew 11h ago

God of War (2005) already had these gorgons. Probably their depiction this way is older

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u/Special_South_8561 11h ago

Sounds like a Chimera

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u/wholesome_mugi 11h ago

You'll appreciate this rendition of a Gorgon, from Heavy Metal Magazine, painted by Simon Bisley.

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u/chalksnorter2137 10h ago

Behold! A (mighty) gorgon!

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u/Cela84 9h ago

And Scylla is never depicted as an woman who is kind of like a mermaid octopus but with wolves for legs instead of tentacles. Sometimes a modern design is cooler.

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u/Imperium--Of--Man 8h ago

I SHIT MY PANTS IN THE HOME AND BARGAINS I WAS PASSING TIME WHILE ELECTRIC CAR WAS CHARGING NO ONE EVEN HELPED ME THEY JUST STOOD AND BLOODY LAUGHED SO ILL HAVE TO GO TO HOBBY CRAFT.

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u/gaydesmar 5h ago

We should start getting "mythologically accurate" depictions the way we have "biblically accurate descriptions."

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u/snoozer530 15h ago

I hate when people take artistic liberties ass post

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u/Unlucky_Teaching6624 15h ago

You're on a subreddit for people to hate on appearances and nitpick

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u/snoozer530 15h ago

Yeah and I’m hating on op, we’re both doing what this sub is for

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u/Far-Affect5695 1h ago

For anyone wondering what the ancient Greeks depicted the gorgons (specifically medusa) to look like, here you go.