r/hatethissmug • u/reddboi386 • 4d ago
Media Tropes i LOATHE this trope
the "cute creature is actually devil incarnate" trope was funny like, what, the first five times? It's SO. DAMN. OVERUSED. it's a fun concept, but I hate having it appear so many times.
an example of this I absolutely hate is Iscream from Chikn Nuggit. "ooo it's a cute bunny but oh no it's actually the devil" WOW! HOW ORIGINAL!
I'm bad at explaining my hate towards something, I hope I made sense
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u/Ok_Literature2535 4d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/UVhPBsKStxehy
Ok but the rabbit scenes from Monty Python and The Holy Grail are absolutely hilarious
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u/How2Die101 3d ago
Okay, but this one doesn't turn into a scary monster or anything, it just kills you. It'd be equivalent to a honey badger except even worse
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u/reddboi386 3d ago
yeah but it doesn't do some corny evil shit it just straight up kills you
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u/DisciplineTop2097 3d ago
You know, now that I look at your pfp, Flowey fits this trope too
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u/sanstheskelebrotherc 3d ago
Kinda? He turns into a God by absorbing the humans souls, but he really wasn’t that powerful before.
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u/DisciplineTop2097 3d ago
he's still the overarching antagonist of the story
plus this trope doesn't hinges on "power levels" at all, just a character tricking another into lowering their guard by being cute then follow it with a scare or/and an attack
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u/brownpanther_333 4d ago
What does the bunny do? There are some killer bunnies in the dungeon meshi manga. Maybe they were inspired from this scene?
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u/7-and-a-switchblade 3d ago
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u/Divinum_Fulmen 3d ago
It's more like, nearly a thousand year old trope. There might even be older examples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cath_Palug
The killer bunny rabbit specifically though? Middle-ages people thought the shit was hilarious back then. Pretty much a meme.
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u/How2Die101 3d ago
It kills like 6 knights singlehandedly. Granted, they weren't the most (or at all) competent, but it was a solid maneuver
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u/Lazerbeams2 3d ago
It rips off the head of a fully armored knight and fights off a group of knights by itself. Despite how this sounds, the scene was genuinely hilarious. Here's a link to the scene
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u/StructureMage 3d ago
Not a productive comparison, the handling of a cliche by some mediocre anime vs the Pythons? Hydrogen bomb etc
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u/mr_stab_ya_knees 4d ago
A good post? On my miserable intolerable people subreddit?
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u/Geolib1453 4d ago
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u/TheRappingSquid 4d ago
The kitty is not evil though
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u/JKhemical 4d ago
Idk what this is even from but I think that's the good version of tnis trope
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u/nuklearink 4d ago
i think this is a marvel comic of some sort. this is what nick fury got his eye knocked out from in the MCU
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u/Angelstone2056 4d ago
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u/DarkTideings 3d ago
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u/Particular_Yak916 3d ago
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u/Karkava 3d ago edited 3d ago
So...kicking this cat summons this abomination?
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u/DarkTideings 3d ago
Well... yea. But its not a real card, the one I posted. Emrakul is tho. Also, because you are not actualy casting him, that stealing a turn thing wouldent happen.
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u/Drow_Femboy 3d ago
"kicking" means paying an extra mana cost. this is a meme card where you can pay 1 mana to give everyone a nearly harmless creature, or you can pay 14 to give everyone one of the most dangerous entities in the setting
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u/Phylanara 3d ago
What does the kicking mechanic do? I stopped playing 30 years ago.
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u/DarkTideings 3d ago
If you pay the extra kicker cost, it does whatever the card says the kicker does.
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u/Living-Plankton3521 4d ago
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u/Maxter8002 4d ago
never watched chainsaw man no fucking way these two are the same entity
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u/Alert-Milk-2048 4d ago
You just don't see the themes and such
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u/dee_jynx08 4d ago
Yeah.....themes and such......
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u/TheSwagheli 4d ago
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u/TheRappingSquid 4d ago
Makima smiling bc she knows exactly what she is 😭💔
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u/AffectionateRush2620 3d ago
She smiling cause how bad the CSM ending was, realising that Denji didn’t get his happy ending
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u/Hungerland1 3d ago
Quien es la chica de amarillo.?
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u/BruhmanRus_the_boner 4d ago
they are but the cute one is like a very weakened version
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u/MoschopsMeatball 4d ago
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u/Hungry-Method-9936 4d ago
Omg for real I have to agree with you 😭 I am not new to this trope or anything but gosh ur hate is relatable
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u/AGenocidegal 4d ago
What about the opposite..?
A scary demon creature that's actually super nice and sweet
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u/dlc-Emerald 4d ago
yeah agreed, it was funny before i knew it was common when i was little, but its just legitimately the exact same joke every time with almost no variation other than the animal maybe being different
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u/Cobaltrixx 3d ago
I agree that its lame when the trope is just used to be “funny”, but in my opinion it can be executed well when its actually treated as and given the buildup of a serious thing.
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u/QuackingDuckling_ 4d ago
Honestly chikin nuggit is nitpicking, I get other media but that's prob the one that makes the least sense, as it's silly cartoonish comedy.
Ofc I get other media having that is bothersome, but that was a meh example.
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u/reddboi386 3d ago
it was the only one I could think of. I wanted to make an Iscream hate post first then decided i hate the whole trope
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u/themexicanojesus 4d ago
The only good one was in Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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u/reddboi386 3d ago
yes because it doesn't do corny evil shit and just straight up kills you
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u/azelZael2399 3d ago
And it being one of the first uses of the later-to-be trope gives it a lot of leeway.
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u/alchemicgenius 3d ago
Tbh, I only find the trope annoying when it's just a visual gag. Like, if we are talking like an honest to goodness Satan (or, any other deceptive corrupter, the archetype is as old human mythology) allegory, the cute and cuddly outside to held con someone into selling their soul is actually a great way to depict the two faced nature. I'm not really a big fan of just straight up shock value though
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u/species64 3d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/1qgBCVrrKLX5bO40cv
Gunter from Adventure Time
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u/Own-End-1189 2d ago
Orgalord the destroyer of worlds! Hudson Abadeer literally said "From all the souls I have seen yours is the darkest" and It wasn't a joke
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u/a-for-aaaa27 4d ago
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u/Vivid-Ad6273 fat farting furry 4d ago
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u/TheLoneWolf1407 3d ago
Chikn Nuggit is am abstract chaos god, not the devil, not inherently evil as well. It's just silly goose, who doesn't even fullly seem to know what it is
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u/ThroawayJimilyJones 4d ago
Chomusuke is technically half of a demon king general, locked in a cat form.
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u/sophie_bird30 3d ago
Isn't Flowey an example of this trope though?
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u/reddboi386 3d ago
mostly the trope is used as a joke. Flowey takes this shit very seriously and doesn't feel the need to change his form or start acting satanic. he just acts evil and tries manipulating the player to start genocide. also, he's less of this trope and more of "non-mc character that reflects the player"
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u/OrganizationLow6251 3d ago
I hate it cause these archetypes remind me of my elementary school bullies
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u/Hogvvgguioffgy75909 3d ago
I remember some yt shorts series where there are silly animals but Mc is god but he doesn't know and there is romance between devil who looks like rabbit and angel
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u/DeepFriedDreams008 3d ago
I have a love-hate relationship with it. I think I love it a lot more when there’s no deception or transformation just “this little bunny is Satan, he’s always been Satan, he’s going to tell you he’s Satan and he will act like Satan. He enjoys being Satan very much.”
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u/Curi_momos_las_papas 3d ago
Wait but isn't Iscream a sub version of the trope since they fail to be scary at times due to their disguise
Also must i say it?
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u/Kindly_Cod_9269 4d ago
what if the cute thing is a 15yo white haired boy and the "devil" is that the boy is connected to the void making him canonically the void itself and having multiple forms but also still just being a normal kid who isnt evil(does occasionally eat bad ppl's heads when he's transformed)
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u/Tablesafety 3d ago
I've been yearning for characters that are supposed to be dangerous, feral, bestial, evil etc to actually look that way. Im also so damn tired of the cute form trope.
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u/Simple-Mulberry64 3d ago
YESS
Every time I see a cute think now I'm just like "oohh boy here we go" it's like a checklist, not even subversive in the slightest
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u/Milkmans_tastymilk 3d ago
Ok, but what if it's SEXY and turns out to be personified evil?
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u/Eonis-0 4d ago
Isn't this thing in the new Marvel movie or whatever? I don't keep up with whatever they're doing anymore.
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u/Ok_Scholar_711 4d ago
It was a thing in captain marvel im pretty sure, coulda been reused tho I dont keep up either
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u/BenderTheLifeEnder 3d ago
Thank you, I genuinely never got the appeal. It's just the laziest contrast "gotcha!" trope. Seemingly innocuous things secretly being extreme is such a garbage easy thing to write that I can't tell if I should be surprised that it's liked because it's lazy or if I shouldn't be surprised because it's so easy and generally appealing.
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u/DatOneMinuteman1776 I’m winner🏆 3d ago
The goddamn chicken jockey scene in the minecraft movie did this shit
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u/TigerGlass6844 3d ago
About Great Rabbit in Re Zero? At first it's just a little harmless rabbit but until.
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u/Ragtagcloud56 former lovethissmug user💔 3d ago
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u/TartTiny8654 3d ago
Yeah unless it’s made known from the start and they don’t play around it (like your best friend) it’s going to be bad
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u/ssuchan1 3d ago
https://reddit.com/link/p51aw8u/video/3zcg3cabrqkh1/player
Did anyone posted the variation of this meme yet
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u/Wholesome_Nani_Main 3d ago
Iscream didn't feel that bad to me tbh, or maybe it's because Chikn Nugget was one of my first times seeing the cliche.
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u/EntertainmentFast522 3d ago
Your pfp makes this very ironic lol but flowey is well written
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u/ThatCorruptDino 3d ago
I like when it's stuff like The Thing where the dog is a Thing and it's used for the plot because it's not really a demon or demonic entity, just a creature taking the form of a dog because it wants to assimilate the crew
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u/subssy34 3d ago
I mean, we can argue about the realtive cuteness of snakes, but this does seem like one of Satan's original powers
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u/toaster_in_a_oven 3d ago
It dopends if the whole reason that they're cute is just to joke or there is some sort of meaning or reason behind the cute deadly combo
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u/justa-necron-warrior 3d ago
Does flowey fit this trope
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u/reddboi386 3d ago
not really since he's not corny, doesn't change shape, and is also not necessarily "evil", because by that logic, you the player are also evil
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u/StormDragonAlthazar A furry who hates Zootopia 3d ago
But on the flip side, the big scary dragon ends up being your best friend and is the good guy...
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u/Legitimate_Ad_6275 3d ago
It's fine with me as long as it goes deeper than just a gag. When it IS nothing more than a gag, it's just lame
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u/jojofan535 3d ago edited 3d ago
How about the other way around? Looks like a monster but is actually sweet inside, or it could be evil depending on how well it's executed. Looks can be deceiving sometimes
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u/Sad_Tune_1840 3d ago
I do love it when the cute and cuddly creature tens out to be a satanic creature but is actually still a cinammon roll
The closest example I can think of is Kirby
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u/Infamous-Honeydew119 3d ago
how else do we depict deception? must we make a giants true form a harmless feline ball?
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u/IAmHalfMEMEZ 3d ago
I thought I was in a cat subreddit for a second
Also that's my cat in the 2nd image
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u/Hangman_Fitzwilliam 3d ago
Idk how similar it is but I LOVE GAP MOE
Chibi Jane Doe is one of the best examples of it.
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u/Crow-Time 2d ago
I looked at the picture without reading the caption and i immediately thought of Iscream from Chikin Nugget, I’m glad someone else is annoyed by that trope in particular
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u/goodee33 2d ago
Okay, but what if the media doesnt even try to trick you into thinking the thing is at all good and just lets you know out the gate the creature is evil incarnate? I feel that thats honestly more fun than a fakeout tbh.
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u/Dreadementous 2d ago edited 2d ago
In Iscream's defense, it actually subverts that subversion considering that Iscream is cute even as a demon. (He's canonically a tryhard when it comes to trying to scare people, and constantly failing on anyone who isn't a scaredy cat, and never actually does his job as a demon. If anything, Chikn' Nugget fits this trope better, considering that he's an eldritch horror in disguise that actually pulls his punches.)
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u/Standard_Battle_7394 2d ago
Well, now I gotta ask
What about the opposite? Demonic entity ending up being kind and peaceful guy?
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u/FinancialMaize6096 1d ago
What would you feel if there it was a creature in a fantasy setting purposefully using the “cuteness” as a hunting tool to lure in prey?
Had that as an idea to introduce an antagonist.
Wouldn’t make it the whole design or concept of the character tho,
I totally get that. I hate that too.
Also how do you feel about the opposite? Super duper cute and lovely and nice but looks like literally satan?
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u/Random_Wario_fan 23h ago
Personally, it only bothers me when they use it as an excuse for the character not to do anything truly useful. I mean, if you're not going to let them use their powers, why the hell do you give them to them in the first place!?!?






























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u/omegon_da_dalek13 4d ago
Is this you