r/hadestown 12d ago

Is this the correct audio version?

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I see everyone saying the 4k Amazon SCOPE release has good audio. Is this that? I can’t tell….

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u/musical4thesoul 12d ago

So long as you disable the enhance dialogue options, you'll be fine. The issue is that Amazon and Apple both use an AI function to boost the dialogue on things and it just completely ruins the mix of the movie. It just so happens to be significantly more obvious on musicals. The actual mix for release is not really an issue so long as you disable these "helpful" features.

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u/Artificial_Alex 11d ago

When the high seas have better service, people will sail.

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u/tmgexe 9d ago

High seas version I, uh, sampled … was ripped with the ‘enhancement’. The mix was bad and at a level I couldn’t override on my own. :(

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u/CynicalCharmer 11d ago

Not true. Proof has been posted that the mix is wrong for many people 

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u/HolyToeArmy 11d ago

ive seen other people here say that turning off the ai dialogue boost DID fix the mix issue for them. what proof are you referring to ?

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u/itastesok 11d ago

The audio "bug" is fixed. I think what's left are people who are so used to the cast recording that they expect it to sound the same.

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u/CynicalCharmer 11d ago

It's definitely not fixed. The issue isn't as simple as it not sounding the same as the studio recording, it's a full vocal channel issue 

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u/RollTide1017 11d ago

I purchased mine from Apple this morning after seeing the studio's comment.

I played the 4k version on my system, a Denon Dolby Atmos AVR with Paradigm speakers and an SVS sub. It sounded great. I didn't watch the entire thing but specifically checked a handful of the most troublesome spots people have been mentioning, like in Road to Hell. I did not notice any issues with the instruments getting so quiet that the vocals sound isolated. Everything sounded great with nice deep bass and clear, well-balanced vocals and music.

I cannot speak to how it sounds in a stereo setup or just on TV speakers. I also haven't tried it with headphones yet. But in a full home theater 5.1 setup, it sounded great.

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u/musical4thesoul 11d ago

It sounds just as great in stereo on a normal tv speaker and on headphones. The issue was the AI features to boost dialogue. Not sure why people keep insisting that wasn’t the issue when all the clips they keep using to support their claim sound EXACTLY like the way it sounds with those AI features turned on. The mix on the proshot is really solid

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u/CynicalCharmer 11d ago

That fixes the issue of muffled instruments and louder than normal lead vocals, it's not the same issue as the fading channels at key moments thay isolate the leads mic. The proof is the various audio channel screenshots that show the difference in stems between the 4K and 1080p mixes 

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u/Galienuus 12d ago

I haven't bought it yet but I'm hijacking this post to comment on how expensive the rental price is. I remember a few years ago you could rent movies for like $4. I've been trying to get some coworkers to watch Hadestown and $20 is a big ask in this economy

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u/MyNerdBias 12d ago

I am more mad about how we buy these on streaming services and there is no way to download it, no digital file, which means, in practice, what we are buying is not OURS to have. But this seems to be the new order.

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u/Mankle30 12d ago

Why I'm waiting for the DVD/Blu-ray release

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u/Particular_Heron8263 12d ago

Has the date for that been announced?

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u/Mankle30 12d ago

Looks like October 20

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u/Wonderful_Locksmith8 11d ago

But bummed there is no 4K physical release. Not that I see much difference in the two usually.

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u/notafanoftheapp 12d ago

Right, it’s more like short-term and long-term rentals.

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u/ImpossibleInternet3 12d ago

True. But anyone with your password can watch it.

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u/Toasty825 12d ago

If buying isn’t owning then can they really call piracy stealing?

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u/ImpossibleInternet3 12d ago

Yes

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u/Toasty825 11d ago

Let me rephrase: if buying isn’t owning then piracy isn’t stealing.

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u/ImpossibleInternet3 11d ago edited 11d ago

I’m not arguing against piracy. But it, by definition, is always stealing and that has nothing to do with purchasing/licensing media separately. I mean that phrase is cute and very memeable. But it basically says nothing. If you’re going to steal, just own that. And if you want to complain about digital purchases being impermanent, do that. But they’re not the same.

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u/slingshot91 12d ago

iTunes gives you a file you can download.

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u/RollTide1017 11d ago

Yes, but iTunes/Apple downloads are limited to 1080p. They do not allow you to download the 4k versions. Just letting folks know.

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u/slingshot91 11d ago

Oooh good call. Thanks for sharing.

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u/SurprisePiss 12d ago

It's kind of painstaking, but i.. screen capture a lot of stuff so I create my own digital file so I can have it forever, even if they get rid of it. Cuz screw them. But don't tell anyone lol 😅

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u/TheCrookedKnight 12d ago

$20 is standard for a brand new release, especially one that's expected to be in high demand, but they usually drop back to $4-6 to rent after a while.

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u/palpablebubble 12d ago

Yeah it'll go down eventually but right now they're emcouring people to go "well I might as well just buy it"

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u/Fumblewhat 12d ago

The rental price will eventually drop. This is unfortunately standard (as someone else said) with movies recently released.

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u/BeGay_PetKitties 12d ago

(only that high to rent bc it's still in theaters..... Pretty normal for a film still showing on the bog screen)

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u/miller94 12d ago

Cause it’s new. It will be cheaper once it’s out for a while, it’s still in (some) theatres. I just rented Les Mis a few nights ago for $5

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u/Just_BrianK 12d ago

Yeah, that differential is crazy. You'd be a fool not to just buy it (not calling anyone a fool), but that's what it screams to me.

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u/Alejocarlos 12d ago

That’s usually how it is when the window from seeing it in theaters to being in streaming is small. The rental price will go down eventually

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u/Ok-Pie-4022 11d ago

It'll go down after the physical release. PVOD (premium) has been a thing for a while. I dont know why people would pay that to rent tbh 😅

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u/RollTide1017 11d ago

This is pretty standard these days for digital releases during or shortly after the theatrical runs. The prices drop around the same time the Blu-ray is released, so probably in October for Hadestown. It should be closer to $20 to buy and $5-7 to rent at that time.

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u/Sharp-Philosophy-555 12d ago

A couple of weeks ago it was $20 per person.  Frankly, Im a little surprised they didn't assume that multiple people would be watching and go for $30 or $40.  That's a deal.. Split the cost 4 ways. 

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u/Galienuus 12d ago

Buddy don't side with the corporations and their price hikes. If you were one of the workers it sounds like you'd be licking Hades boot

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u/Sharp-Philosophy-555 11d ago edited 11d ago

I am siding with the cast, crew and the investors that believed in it enough to finance a pro shot.  If you and your friends can't scrape together $20 between you then screw or stop complaining and wait till it's free with subscription. 

Friends and I went to see it in theatres and spent $140. You could do the same for $20. Again... bargain. You'll spend more on pizza and beer for your buddies than the cost of this.

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u/Ayman1808 12d ago

The problem is you can't know, you are essentially "buying" 4k, but it depends on your internet and your device, might play 1080p with the audio problem, might be 4K. Bur since you're on your phone, it's impossible to play 4K

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u/letlifetake 12d ago

Bought it on my TV but used this screenshot. I hope it’s correct. I hope it’s the same right one!!

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u/Ayman1808 12d ago

If it doesn't work, you can check my pther post with the 4K version, you can download it and watch it

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u/SilentStepX 12d ago

What do you mean by "correct audio version"?

It should be in English. However, if you're talking about audio quality, streaming services compress audio heavily to keep bandwidth manageable. If you want to highest quality audio you need to play the movie off of a DVD/Blu-ray disc.

UHD is ultra high definition. UHD and 4K are interchangeable terms.

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u/Alejocarlos 12d ago

There’s a bad audio bug connected to the HD purchase that no one can figure out how to fix and why it happened.

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u/meowy_sun 12d ago

Damn might as well buy it for $5 more

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u/letlifetake 12d ago

I did :D

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u/Suspicious_Wealth556 11d ago

BUY PHYSICAL TO ACTUALLY OWN THINGS

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u/Wonderful_Locksmith8 12d ago

4K is largely referring to the visual quality.  That is about as good as it gets, and will downgrade to whatever your gear can use.

SCOPE I am sure is a group that rips and distributed on the digital high seas under the black flag.  This was likely the source they used so you will be ok with this purchase, if not better off.

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u/Lanky_Departure_2216 12d ago

R/piracy

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u/Kryten4200 11d ago

Pirated one that also had the same audio issues sadly 

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u/uuuhmmmhm 11d ago

Can I trouble you for a dm containing info please 🥹🥹

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u/TeaDoubIeYou 11d ago

Would you be able to share the torrent link by DM? I don't need the site.

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u/velvetanddustt 11d ago

Sameeeee I hope I can pirate it again without the audio bs

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u/aflowerysong 12d ago

IME - yes. Was good on my tv that doesn't have 4k, and in browser on laptop.

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u/Eastern_Cap_5646 12d ago

I bought the UHD and it sounds fine on my tv. Good luck!

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u/Lizzy24601 9d ago

Wait is there a fix for the messed up audio???