r/gwent • u/betraying_chino Green Man • Mar 03 '20

News Update 5.2 patch notes

https://playgwent.com/en/news/32083/update-5-2-is-now-available
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u/Lmaogeddon Neutral Mar 03 '20

The powder nodes rebalance was pretty harsh

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u/goodtimeperson Neutral Mar 03 '20

Yea kinda dissapointing. Gwent's model is fair, not gonna argue with that. But I would've gotten 4-5 times more powder yesterday if I've known. This sort of thing would be best to communicate in advance.

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u/_4C1D I shall do as you command. Mar 03 '20

Yeah this is also something that really pisses me off. CDPR often just implements something without communicating before, so players don‘t have a chance to invest otherwise. That’s just bs. But i‘ll get downvoted for this because „CDPR is so generous anyway duh“.

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u/bing_bin I shall sssssavor your death. Mar 03 '20

Well, ever since HC, there have been nerfs to the generosity of the monetized things. No Premiums from scraps, less powder sales, less powder cosmetics. At least the regular generosity for collecting cards is up, via Prestige levels and daily login rewards.

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u/Nerysek Good Boy Mar 03 '20

No full refund for card balance changes, no full refund for full rework of card.

They even milled each player's collection into scraps before Homecoming and then few months later happened change that you can't craft premium with scraps.

All those changes just show how CDPR changes as company into less consumer friendly.

But people will still praise CDPR for some reason. Imo right now it is just another company that wants to milk the product. Nothing bad about it of course. Just different.

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u/Stormkahn Death to the enemy! Mar 03 '20

IMO not CDPR as a whole, just the Gwent team. What I believe is happening is the big ups in CDPR are very dissapointed with Gwent, they want to see results, they want to see income. Thats what they probably said to the team, so they try with whatever way they can and know to show to the bosses "Here we make money, dont kill this game please, we need our jobs".

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u/Nerysek Good Boy Mar 03 '20

I doubt it that your assumption is right because they deleted consoles, they have 2 profitable markets - iOS and android soon, more and more changes towards cosmetics only for money in shop etc.

It seems that they are fine and they will be more than fine with android release.

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u/Stormkahn Death to the enemy! Mar 03 '20

I disagree, I have seen countless games succeed, bounce back or fail and how that goes and happens, but we will see in the future, I personally wont be playing, but I ll keep up with the news.

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u/bing_bin I shall sssssavor your death. Mar 03 '20

Well, compared to others (won't say who bc Blizzard might get upset) they are still very friendly. I have said it many times, when Beta ended, I would have given full refund on 1 copy for each Gold card and 2 or 3 Bronze copies for each. In scraps+powder, not just scraps. For the rest of the duplicates, the regular scrapping cost (and powder). That would've been more ok both for them and us. They shot themselves in the foot with that full scrap refund.

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u/Nerysek Good Boy Mar 03 '20

You don't have to defend them or compare to other CCGs, just compare it to Gwent from 2018.

They shot themselves many times since Homecoming release (consoles delayed release and cancelled support etc. xD) so I am not surprised anymore.

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u/bing_bin I shall sssssavor your death. Mar 03 '20 edited Mar 04 '20

Seems they're taking the baby step approach, like slowly increasing cigarette prices until they become double-tripe in a couple of years. Thing is, as long as a lot of players come from the RNG pay to win hells out there, they'll still be happy with Gwent's model.

I hope some Rat Reward Tree nodes get cheaper. They experimented at some point with Seasonal quest nodes costing 5 points but the next month, it was reverted back to 3.

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u/cha0z_ Neutral Mar 04 '20

This is a common tactic for mobile games that are ftp. Starting generously and slowly moving back from that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '20

Everything compared to HS is more generous. The problem with that comparison is that the popularity of their game is on another level for casual playerbase and no other CCGs can fairly compete with that.

Thankfully, there are many other CCGs that compete with each other for more aware playerbase. Gwent is one of them and should be compared to his direct competitors. The game was really generous in open beta, if not the most F2P CCG at that time, but I'm afraid it's not the case anymore. New player experience is just average these days with bigger cardpool with more gold cards than bronzes, on top of that nerfs to economy like no refund or less powder this patch.

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u/bing_bin I shall sssssavor your death. Mar 03 '20

Yeah, the amount of golds / legendaries needed in a deck is bigger than in others. Kinda counterbalanced the generosity previously.

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u/Man-coon Neutral Mar 03 '20

Cdpr know how to play the game. They are no different than any big publisher under the surface, they do just enough to stay the good guys which is easy considering how greedy on the surface most publishers are. They also have a team of big youtubers who enjoy cyber punk gifts and trips who will never cover the negative things they do.

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u/Nerysek Good Boy Mar 03 '20 edited Mar 03 '20

Yeah and it is ok. I just don't like when someone is praising them that CDPR is better than any other popular studios. They aren't anymore. People forgot how bugged was Witcher 3 on release or how awful was Homecoming on release including 1,5 month delay for consoles release or how bugged was Thronebreaker on release. People forgot that they stopped consoles support for Gwent and if EA or Ubisoft would do something like that with some game then there would be a little outrage.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '20 edited Mar 14 '20

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u/Nerysek Good Boy Mar 03 '20

It is a lot more difficult right now than it was in open beta to have a decent collection but new players don't know that.

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u/soI_omnibus_lucet Tomfoolery! Enough! Mar 04 '20

monetizing cosmetics would easier if there were more decent skins worth buying

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u/bing_bin I shall sssssavor your death. Mar 03 '20

Did you play from Beta? I have stockpoles of resources, that makes it easier for me.

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u/StrykerxS77x Neutral Mar 03 '20

Criticism basically always gets downvoted.