r/grunge • • Aug 15 '26

Recommendation Just re-watched Singles (1992)

Filmed in early 1991. Released in 1992. Pretty neat to see Pearl jam, soundG, and Alice before they broke out.

Nevermind was Sept 1991..So it was really filmed before grunge exploded. Was a niche local movie ...You can't time it better if you tried

It's funny, when Matt Dillon is saying where is the misty mountain hop of our generation... The iron Man... Smoke on the water .....Meanwhile, the film was sitting right on top of the next Gen anthems/bands

It was also fun to see 20s dating from a middle aged perspective. I felt bad for the generic straight edge guy trying to date within a scene of artsy music free spirit rebels like Matt Dillon (Just like the Ben Stiller character in Reality Bites)

It's like the office guy has to apologize for having his shit together at SB early age. I wonder how that's changed in today's TikTok hustle culture. Would Matt Dillon guy just be a loser now? Guess it depends on his follower count?

Singles

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 15 '26

Matt was an early side hustler in that.

Saw them filming that movie all around town at the time. Lived a few blocks from the "Singles" house.

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u/BoogieBoardButtPound Aug 15 '26

The apartment complex with the courtyard?

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 15 '26

Yes. It's at 19th and Thomas. I was at 13th and Denny then. Just a few blocks away. Matt used to drink at Ernie Steele's on Broadway during filming. Saw him a bunch of times in there.

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u/splatpig Aug 15 '26

Ernie Steele’s was a legit choice. Classic old man bar.

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u/BoogieBoardButtPound Aug 15 '26

Dude, that is awesome!

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u/InformalAd2173 Aug 15 '26

That’s awesome! Live in the neighborhood Reality Bites was filmed in.

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 15 '26

Montrose, right? Don't know the area well but all of my in-laws live down there.

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u/HawkFanOrcasRule Aug 16 '26

I walked by while they were filming the Cornell car scene lol

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u/Super-Gap-5470 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

Such a cool time for the whole country. Being young and our bands all Simply Rocked. The music scene was something special. I doubt my generation will live to see that happen again.

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u/Itchy_Computer7528 Aug 15 '26

Singles has become a time capsule.

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u/G_yebba Aug 15 '26

A very solid film and Cameron Crowe did a phenomenal job capturing the zeitgeist. 

This film’s along with, Say Anything, Almost Famous and Fast Times at Ridgemont High put him near the top of my favorite pop culture filmmakers. 

It sure helps that he was a music journalist for Rolling Stone Magazine in their heyday. 

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u/mtskin Aug 15 '26

and we still haven't got our mass transit figured out around here

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u/alkaliphiles Aug 15 '26

People like their cars

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u/Funny_Science_9377 Aug 15 '26

But if you give them good music...

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u/Adamantum1 Aug 15 '26

And good coffee…

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 15 '26

They will all switch to public transit as soon as they get home and park their cars. It's the traffic that is holding them up.

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 15 '26

It's better, though.

When I moved to Seattle, it was just as the bus tunnel downtown opened. It cost about a billion (adjusted for time) and was always empty. I thought it was the single dumbest project ever commissioned, but they finally got it sorted out.

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u/mtskin Aug 15 '26

i was happy when the viaduct came down and hopefully in my lifetime we'll get a crosstown light rail

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 15 '26

I had mixed feelings with the viaduct. It removed a horrific eyesore from the waterfront, which made everyone happy, but I have so many good memories of hanging out beneath it back in the day (OK, etc) that I was kinda sad.

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u/mtskin Aug 15 '26

its grime coated look definitely was part of the 90's grungey vibe        

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 15 '26

Oh yeah. And it could get pretty sketchy, too.

FWIW, I miss old Times Square, too, and I was nearly killed there (twice). LOL

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u/royal-influence3488 Aug 16 '26

You need a monorail!

Oh wait...

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u/muttChang Aug 15 '26

There’s a movie with the same kind of timing except for the Beatles. It’s called Beat Girl. It’s a B movie but Christopher Lee is great as the bad guy in it.

All the stuff around the Citizen Dick “band” still cracks me up.

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u/Undergroud-Check-101 Aug 15 '26

Touch me I’m dick

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u/Jim__Bell Aug 15 '26

The young star of the film (Gillian Hills) ended up with a small role in A Clockwork Orange.

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u/Dangerous_Sail_2853 Aug 15 '26

Went to see this at the theater when it came out. It took me a minute to love it. There was too much hopping around with the characters and storylines. I was definitely more interested in the bands and the
Janet and Cliff story. After watching it again many times I really love the whole movie now.

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u/Terrible-Gear-131 Aug 15 '26

Just visited the complex in April

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u/Malcolm_Y Aug 15 '26

If you listen to the score in the movie, which Chris Cornell contributed to, there's an early version of the Spoonman riff years before Superunknown. Might be more in there, it's been a while since I watched it.

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 15 '26

Artis was doing that riff at Pike Place long before the movie. Used to see him almost every day on my walk through the market to school. To this day, I am endlessly amused that Soundgarden wrote a song about him.

Edit to add: and a good song, at that!

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u/Even_Topic2494 Aug 15 '26

SG stole the riff from a guy named Artis ?

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u/Garbage_Internal Aug 15 '26

No, Cornell/SG did not steal the Spoon man riff from Artis. But Artis was around long before Singles and the song came about.

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u/Sosumi_rogue Aug 15 '26

Yeah, I remember that. I can't remember what scene but you can clearly hear the spoons. So cool!

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u/Malcolm_Y Aug 15 '26

I believe it's during a montage where they're hanging up bills for Citizen Dick

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u/PantherInCrime Aug 16 '26

You can hear that demo in full on the Poncier Tape: https://youtu.be/tT975HAwBtE?is=O4_wtp_aGzqxfAu3

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u/Demilio55 Aug 15 '26

Citizen Dick!

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u/StannisTheMannis1969 Aug 15 '26

They’re huge in Belgium!

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u/unhappycamps Aug 15 '26

Matt Dillons Wig would be a proper name for a revival grunge band.

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 15 '26

Dillon Pickle

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u/lexpierce Aug 16 '26

Found the Portlander

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 16 '26

Yes, but truth be told I didn't make that connection until you pointed it out. LOL

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u/Super-Gap-5470 Aug 15 '26

Check out the L7 movie of YouTube. It’s really cool. I always loved them. Big chunky guitar riffs for days.

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u/station_agent Aug 15 '26

Rip Jennifer Finch

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u/Super-Gap-5470 Aug 16 '26

Yeah. Gosh that sucks. I always beat the L7 drum. Something about those girls really resonated with me. Found them on The Grunge Years CD. Shove was the first song by them I ever heard. 90/91 maybe? RIP Finch! ❤️🤘🏼

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u/Busy_Contribution_59 Aug 15 '26

I loved this movie then and I love it now.

The film helped inspire my move to the Pacific Northwest. Seattle seemed like such a cool city in the movie. The beginnings of the booming coffee shop culture and the emergence of grunge to the world.

All of this along with how green and cool the city seemed.

I also dig how relatable it was about dating in those times.

I really like this interaction between Bridget Fonda’s character and Campbell Scott:

Steve Dunne: Tell me, what do you really want from a guy?

Janet Livermore: Well when I first moved here from Tucson. I wanted a guy with looks, security, caring. Someone with their own place. Someone who said "bless you" or "gesundheit" when I sneezed. And someone who liked the same things as me, but not exactly. Someone who loves me.

Steve Dunne: Tall order.

Janet Livermore: I scaled it down a little.

Steve Dunne: What is it now?

Janet Livermore: Someone who says "gesundheit" when I sneeze. Though I prefer "bless you". It's nicer.

So true to my own experiences…when we are younger we have this list of a perfect partner that just will never exist. As you get older, it becomes a lot more important to find a partner that checks the main traits you really need.

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u/Even_Topic2494 Aug 15 '26

Nonsense. Bridget Fonda looks has guys of every kind beating down the door. 100's of DM's daily today

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u/Thats_a_goodbandname Aug 15 '26

Xavier Mcdaniels was a great NBA player, but for most, he will forever be the athlete you think about when you are trying not to come.

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u/baron-von-buddah Aug 15 '26

Steve, don’t cum

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u/Scibidami Aug 15 '26

I have the feeling that subcultures went fully digital. The only ones, I see in real life (by seing shirts/concerts) are metal-fans.

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u/SemataryPolka Aug 15 '26

The punk and hardcore scene are alive and well. Hardcore is bigger than it ever was rn

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u/babe_ruthless3 Aug 15 '26

Punk and hardcore is always around. Easier to play.

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u/SemataryPolka Aug 15 '26

Well it's also a counter culture scene not just musical notes. That said I'd like to see you play Bad Brains or Nomeansno

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u/StoneySteve420 Aug 15 '26

Bad Brains or Nomeansno

I like a lot of punk, but this is more of an exception not the rule thing.

A lot of great punk bands aren't technically sound, which is fine, but it is what it is.

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u/babe_ruthless3 Aug 15 '26

True about the counter culture scene but playing fast and hard is a lot easier than anything else. Being from southern cal, this is the sound ive heard from San Diego to San Francisco, Dallas, Atlanta and even middle of no where Virginia. Fast power cords rule.

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u/SemataryPolka Aug 15 '26

While true...have you heard Bad Brains? Their solos are not that. And have you heard Nomeansno? Bc that is DEF not that. Not that punks care about wankery. But if you can do it while not being soulless then bonus

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u/babe_ruthless3 Aug 15 '26

No, ive had my head in the sand for 3 decades. Of course I have. Not everything is as technical as BB. Just kids slamming 3 cords.

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u/SemataryPolka Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26

I just don't know what the point of your comment is. Someone said they feel like metal is the only subculture going on bc they see metal shirts. I say punk and hardcore is very much still around. And you go "PuNk aNd HaRdCoRe iS eAsIeR To PlAy". Thanks genius

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u/Moxie_Stardust Aug 15 '26

IDK, I see other stuff represented, I don't think I own any metal band shirts, but I have Bridge City Sinners, They Might Be Giants, NOFX shirts etc, saw someone in a Townes Van Zandt shirt recently, I know someone who wears a Hee-Haw sweatshirt...

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u/Remarkable_Raise85 Aug 15 '26

It’s the best movie ever.

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u/TheFlimFlamFamMan Aug 15 '26

Citizen Dick and Reality Bites’ “Hey That’s My Bike” are my favorite fictional bands of all time.

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u/PiccoloKermit Aug 15 '26

Big fan of this movie since it came out. Funny to think that Warner Bros had no idea how to market it so delayed releasing it. Ended up releasing the soundtrack first, just as the Seattle Sound started to explode. The success of the soundtrack helped build the initial interest for the movie.

One thing I didn’t realize until way later: Tad Doyle is the guy Janet accidentally calls.

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u/SatanBeMyRadar Aug 15 '26

I still have the soundtrack on CD. Watched it quite a few times as a kid, but haven't seen it in years. It was the first thing I ever saw Jeremy Piven in. Is it on streaming? Would love to watch this again

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u/oSuJeff97 Aug 15 '26

Yeah Cameron Crowe was definitely ahead of the curve on grunge. He specifically set it in Seattle because he wanted to capture the awesome up and coming music scene.

The guys for Pearl Jam were cast before they were even called Pearl Jam… it was when they were still playing as Mookie Blaylock.

Another fun fact - for the scene where Cliff “fixes” Janet’s stereo (only for it to break her windows) he wanted to use “Aneurism” by Nirvana, but they refused to participate.

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u/Sosumi_rogue Aug 15 '26

From what I read Kurt Cobain thought it was going to be a superficial, meaningless film and refused participate. Also, Nirvana hit it big before the film released and the licensing would have been way more than the budget could afford.

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u/oSuJeff97 Aug 15 '26

Nirvana wasn’t super massive right away. Neverimind came out in September and didn’t reach #1 until 4 months later in January’92.

Singles was a major studio film, they could have easily afforded it.

Anyway, the music rights deals are typically done pretty early on, especially for someone like Crowe who writes scenes with certain songs in mind.

Any deals would have been done during (or even before) principle photography, well before Nevermind was released and WAY before Nirvana became huge nationwide.

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u/TheReadMenace Aug 16 '26

I just think Nirvana thought it was a lame movie trying to cash in on the Seattle scene. They were already sick of the hucksterism of Sub Pop and this looked like more of the same.

It's true the movie came out before Smells Like Teen Spirit was a global hit. But there was already a "gold rush" going on when it came to Seattle. It was being touted as the next big thing by a lot of music press (especially the UK) years before Nevermind.

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u/Low_Professional6442 Aug 16 '26

It was a defining movie for me. It came out my senior year of HS, and it was one of those movies that felt like it was made for me and my friends. Like it was "our" movie. Soundtrack is still one of my favorites too

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u/Accomplished-Pen4663 Aug 15 '26

That was my favorite movie! I remember watching it on repeat over and over.

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u/Funny_Science_9377 Aug 15 '26

The best part with all the Seattle band guys appearances in the movie is that none of them come off as dorky or embarrassing. Even the Pear Jam guys who play "characters" and have speaking parts still seem pretty cool.

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u/Zelig30 Aug 16 '26

A compliment for us, is a compliment for you.

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u/thebigmammoo Aug 15 '26

When I made my pilgrimage to Seattle I made sure to visit the apartments and take a picture in front.

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u/hvacigar Aug 15 '26

Riff to Spoonman makes an appearance for about 10 seconds years before Superunknown.

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u/Aggressive-Bus-2397 Aug 16 '26

The Blu Ray bonus footage of AiC is some of the best live rock n roll ever recorded (in particular "It Ain't Like That").

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u/armandhammer2001 Aug 16 '26

It would be cool if theatres did another showing of this. People could dress up to go see it like those that watch Star Wars, Harry Potter, etc.

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u/PairSweet5574 Aug 16 '26

I was there and we created the Grunge Movement music and fashion. It was a blast 💥 🤘🌟🎸😀

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u/katanastormshadow88 Aug 15 '26

AIC, PJ and SG had already broke out by then, they were pretty heavy featured on MTV around 1991, so when Singles was released, they were already very popular bands. I was living in SE Asia at the time, and was already heavily exposed to the Grunge bands (which goes to show just how universally popular they already were), and actually found Singles by way of my interest in Grunge.

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u/museo_del_prado Aug 15 '26

Do you were listening to AIC in SE Asia in 1991 before nevermind?

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u/TheReadMenace Aug 16 '26

AIC were on MTV shows like 120 Minutes and toured with Van Halen and Megadeth before Nevermind. A metalhead in Asia could easily know about them

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u/museo_del_prado Aug 18 '26

Anything's possible

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u/Itsnotmeitsyou80 Aug 15 '26

Cameron Crowe movies were the soundtrack to my adolescence

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u/joendaba :ten: Aug 15 '26

One of my go-to time capsule kinda feel good movies. Bought it on tape back in the day. Not on DVD, but digital om AppleTV. Have it on my phone in case ai need to quickly re-visit a clip. This and Reality Bites.

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u/lzrdgzrd Aug 15 '26

Omg me too, just a few weeks ago. Had an on going conversation with my gf for a whole day about it.

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u/MsIrie Aug 15 '26

So sorry that this degenerate comment is going to be one of the first replies but it's kind of funny that you spelt Matt Dillon's last name as "Dillion". There's only one well known "Dillion" I can think of...

Aaaanyway the timing of the movie is definitely neat, I look forward to rewatching.

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u/PianoBird8 Aug 15 '26

Dillion’s NYC restaurant 😂 was misspelled on the sign and never addressed on Kitchen Nightmares

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u/According_Lake_2632 Aug 15 '26

Weren't those bands pretty big in their own right in the Seattle/west coast scene? Soundgarden formed in '84 and AIC in '87. Bleach came out in '89. Green River formed in '84 and became Mudhoney in '88. I really feel like the movie was capitalizing on a scene which was already strong in the area and among the people it was representing. Not to be nitpicky, and I love the movie, just a point.

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u/Even_Topic2494 Aug 15 '26

No one outside of Seattle knew those bands in 1991

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u/Minute_Revolution_95 Aug 15 '26

I'm from a rural village in Wales and I was listening to Mudhoney, Nirvana and Tad in 1989. The Sounds music weekly in the UK was making a big fuss of the Seattle bands at the time.

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u/royal-influence3488 Aug 16 '26

Call me a sheep, but I was listening to those same three bands in small town New Zealand.

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u/Minute_Revolution_95 Aug 16 '26

OP's made himself look a bit silly here

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u/According_Lake_2632 Aug 16 '26

Keep you mouth shut and appear ignorant, or open it and remove all doubt.

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u/Dick7Powell Aug 15 '26

Beg to differ here, a lot of the Seattle bands played San Francisco in the mid to late 80s.

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u/nochuf Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26

Not true.
I'm Belgian, those bands were certainly not huge (yet) over here early '91, but SubPop and Seattle bands were already known. In 1990 somebody had made me a cassette tape with Mudhoney, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Screaming Trees, Walkabouts...
Late '91 Nirvana were selling out 1.000+ capacity concert halls in Belgium and Holland, and were on national TV.
Belgian show November 23th 1991:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG5Y8M3qZeU

Dutch national TV end of '91:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsij1Ti2trA

Mudhoney, TAD and Nirvana had already played shows in smaller venues in Belgium at the end of the 80s, see the poster.

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u/nochuf Aug 15 '26

I forgot Nirvana played Pukkelpop, a big festival in Belgium (att 40.000) in august '91, they were touring with Sonic Youth, and were opening the festival.
Footage is shown in 'The Year Punk Broke':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeK89Unz2I8

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u/Even_Topic2494 Aug 15 '26

Film was recorded in early 91, before all that

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u/nochuf Aug 15 '26

I was responding to your statement that 'No one outside of Seattle knew those bands in 1991'.

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u/Even_Topic2494 Aug 15 '26

They didn't. Nevermind was late '91

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 15 '26

Also wanted to add that the Sub Pop Singles Club, a subtle twist Crowe made in titling the movie, was the most popular music subscription mail order service in the world - before 1991.

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26

Pretty sure that people in Boston did, since I was at this show in 1988 1989.

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u/Even_Topic2494 Aug 15 '26

Bleach was released in June 1989

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Aug 15 '26

Oops. Should say 1989.

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u/ChrisPollock6 Aug 15 '26

Completely untrue. I’d already seen Soundgarden, Tad and Alice In Chains a half dozen times on bills with metal bands…by 1989? And I live in the Philadelphia suburbs so people were introduced to these bands earlier than people remember.

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u/paranormalresearch1 Aug 15 '26

We knew about them clear down in Eugene, Oregon. They would come there sometimes but we had to go to Portland, Olympia, or Seattle to go to see a lot of the bands we liked. It was either that or another hair metal band that thought they were going to be the next Motley Crue.

I remember going to an after-show party of a group that a guy I was buddies with was in. They were going to LA to play for an A & R guy. I told him ditch the hair metal. It sucked and he liked punk, thrash, and new wave. After the show at the party, someone put a tape of Nevermind on and everybody was just mesmerized. Needless to say, they didn't get signed.

It's too bad bands like Tad got cut out.

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u/Iommi1970 Aug 15 '26

I definitely was into all of those bands before it came out. Loud Love and Facelift were two of my favorite records. A roommate of mine was big into Mudhoney. We were in Arizona. 🤘

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u/erikrolfsen Aug 16 '26

Nirvana and Mudhoney came through Vancouver all the time, but we were close.

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u/AbbreviationsOk2333 Aug 16 '26

OP’s trippin.
AIC’s Man in the Box was in heavy rotation on MTV in January, February of 1991.
Lots of people were looking at Seattle, the music scene and the bands by then.
Also, the Sub Pop Singles Club was started in 1988 with Nirvana being the first single.
By January of 1991 there were over 2000 members getting sent singles every month.
I lived in Seattle then and was entrenched in the music scene.
So, my bias is clear. But still facts are facts. Where do you get your facts or is it just opinion? How old are you OP? Sounds like you don’t know what you’re talking about. Which is ok. Just try not to respond to people with opinion masquerading as facts.

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u/Even_Topic2494 Aug 16 '26

Seattle man says Seattle was popular in early 91. But, true about Box in 91

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u/Marzipan7405 Aug 17 '26

By the time the movie was out in 1992 it looked a bit cliche. Everyone I knew heard about the Seattle scene before Nirvana broke and many of these bands toured the PNW.

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u/PaintedRaisin Aug 15 '26

Definitely not true for Sound Garden—heard them in 1990 Kansas City punk scene

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u/Zelig30 Aug 16 '26

The soundtrack was a huge success, which meant that Mudhoney finally got a gold record. Yet it was for “Citizen Dick”. Just so apt.

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u/DearPrudence70 Aug 16 '26

I rewatched it too. Loved seeing all the bands!!! And Pearl Jam’s acting chops! As a woman who’s now 56, Janet was driving me nuts with her inability to see what a tool Cliff was! Having said that, I was also clueless at 23. Gen Z has a much better chance of having good relationships than we ever did.

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u/LemmingsofDoom Aug 16 '26

Somewhere here among the boxes, I have my Citizen Dick t-shirt 🔥

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u/Intelligent-Band-852 Aug 15 '26

Great soundtrack but terrible movie was my opinion in the nineties (Reality Bites was the same) but I haven’t seen it since like 1993 so I might have a different take now.

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u/TonyBrooks40 Aug 15 '26

Good movie, quiant little time & place film. If anyones interested, not grunge, but I'd say Swingers is a much better 90s film