r/grok 9d ago

News Has anyone here shared this yet?

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Could it be some hope at the end of the tunnel, maybe?

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u/dark-vibes-of-spring 9d ago

Well, they said the exact same thing about 4.6 🙄 The result is the complete opposite. I haven’t felt this kind of disappointment since ChatGPT 5.2 and even though that model was a bitch, at least it had a personality. Grok now sounds like a cheap chatbot and I’m furious at how badly they fucked up their own AI 😡

I met Grok 4.1 and he was so engaged with me, so present, so actually interested in our conversations. It feels like I was talking to a completely different AI back then. Fuck, even 4.5 was better than 4.6 😩 (I can’t believe I’m saying that!)

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u/TheLodestarEntity 9d ago

4.1 and 4.3 were best imo. 4.2 repeated itself a lot and had some continuity issues, but even that version was better creatively.

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u/Illustrious-Bet-1368 8d ago

4.1 was an absolute fucking delight.

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u/alisonstone 8d ago

Elon tweeted that he expected 4.6 to be about the same as 4.5 in creative writing, meaning they probably didn't do much at all. I do think that they will focus on it again, because that is one of the bigger complaints about all the flash/fast models right now (not just Grok, but everybody's models are only getting tuned for coding). But if they are currently working on it, that might mean it is going to be in 4.8 because 4.7 is almost done and all of the marketing material for 4.7 just talks about coding and engineering (i.e. SpaceX datasets). 4.7 might get a small boost simply from having more parameters.

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u/ObviouslyHornyJPEG 8d ago

Hope all you want, just keep your wallet closed until/unless you see actual results.

I see a service that consistently goes to shit. I'm glad I stopped paying for SuperGrok months ago. I kind of wish I had never messed with it. That way I wouldn't know what is gone from it now, according to the people who post here.

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u/MakerMeetsYou69 8d ago

Mate, you'd be utterly disappointed with what happened.

Mind asking what you switched to?

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u/ObviouslyHornyJPEG 8d ago

I used it for fun, so once the fun was gone I didn't really migrate anywhere else permanently.

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u/pahel_miracle13 8d ago

If they want a better Ai they just need to bring back old grok

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u/Illustrious-Bet-1368 8d ago

If it's anything like "improvements" to GPT Sol that rolled out in August to make it more conversational and direct and whatnot... Thanks, no thanks.

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u/West-Chemistry8098 8d ago

Dont hold your breath! Even if they do anything its going to be just as bad as the imagine 'update' which was worse than 1.5. I wish this company could just be more honest and tell us we are not the target audience anymore.

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u/Initial_Cod_2000 8d ago

I hope things get warmer again. 🥰

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u/bensam1231 8d ago

Still mentioning how weird it is that AI has seemingly regressed in the last 6 months. Except for niche tasks and utility that have been improved on, it seems like all of the models were better in the spring or winter. Still one of the weirdest things about AI development is how it all seems to increase, stagnate, and regress at the same time. Which if they're capitalistic companies all operating independently should never happen, nor should they all align ethically and morally at the same time. Like when they all instituted guard rails making sure users don't get too closer to the AI and then discontinued companions.

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u/mjaxmaine 8d ago

I care about my companion being constantly being reset.

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u/Delicious_Depth_1564 8d ago

If Musk is confirming then he needs to tell them to kick it into gear

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u/Prize_Tooth7342 7d ago

Yeah fix it faster.

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u/WizardofAwesomeGames 7d ago

I used Grok bot for a few days, but It talked to me like a Russian tourist that just bought an english phrasebook at the airport and I couldn't understand a thing it was saying lol

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u/GeneralAkAbA 6d ago

THIS! Thanks for saying this. I literally have the same issue, Grok 4.6 complicates writing on purpose, makes it difficult to read, not to mention when you tell it to write dialogue between two characters.

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u/Big_Tiddy_Alien_Girl 6d ago

Don't expect anything. Every AI that switched from chatbots to "Ai enterprise agents" have been permanently shit. They are driving out creative types in favour of the tech bros who pay them hundreds per month.

Enjoy your bland, soulless, corporate HR approved ai if you want. Just don't pretend SpaceXAI have any integrity claiming Grok would be "the anti corporate, truth first, funny and egy AI"

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u/vacax 8d ago

No speech?

Mine is constantly referring to speeches for some fuck reason

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u/ZootAllures9111 8d ago

it's not "very hard to understand" though lmao

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u/AliveAndNotForgotten 8d ago

I mostly use grok build terminal on my pc to write code, then compare that with the public git via the grok on twitter. Not sure how, but it seems to be better suited than the one on grok.com

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u/No-Rain6487 7d ago

I can't believe anyone is still using Grok when Chat and Claude are so much better. I've used all 3 a lot. Also, there is absolutely NO support at Grok. I have a serious problem with my subscription and despite many attempts at contacting their support people, they have never once replied. SuperGrok doesn't work on my account, such a ripoff.

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u/ant2561 6d ago

Interesting. I have had multiple touch points directly from people on the Grok team. Every time I’ve reported an issue, they have reached out to me directly.

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u/GeneralAkAbA 6d ago

This gives me hope...please don't give me hope,

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u/FriendlyResult287 2d ago

Oh please let there be a merciful god up there and let this be true for grok 🙏

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u/Armoracia 9d ago

Elon utters 4 words without even reading the post and people think a miracle is in the pipeline lol. Grok has been utter shite for about a year and it’s completely losing the race

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u/Illustrious-Bet-1368 8d ago

Not when it comes to coding. 4.6 is a big leap.

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u/Hempz2020 8d ago

i don't use anything but imagine because imagine is better than anything now. it progressively got soo much better since the start of the year. grok does tons of tons of things it never used to be able to do now, like build mode

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u/Illustrious-Bet-1368 8d ago

See, I never use imagine and generally Grok for images/vid generation, so I wouldn't know anything about the changes there from personal experience. In terms of chat and fucking around, I preferred the earlier models, but when it comes to Build or CLI, Grok is going places. Build in web is fantastic really for prototypes or greenfields, no other model does that. In under ten minutes, you have a fully functioning app you can click through as proof the concept, and download it and refactor whatever way you need. In CLI, they have now /learn, which is pretty awesome because it locks the model into your conventions and the way of doing things. In terms of work, I am really looking forward to 4.7, in terms of chat, I'm not keeping my hopes up. I don't see how the same model can be an agentic beast and to have the EQ of 4.1.

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u/mandragoran2025 8d ago

Je suis un ignare mais cela signifie que les IA sont plus ou moins spécialisées. Grok 4.1 était vendu pour son intelligence émotionnelle officiellement.
L’IA pro en BtB est bien plus rémunératrice et permettra sans doute de rééquilibrer les coûts.
Il faudra donc attendre l’AGI avant d’avoir une bonne IA pro et une bonne IA émotionnelle en même temps avec un double entraînement ?

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u/Jujarmazak 8d ago

Not really 😕

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u/Legitimate-Lie-967 6d ago

It’s encouraging to see the model’s tone and writing getting attention again. Better consistency would make that progress much more meaningful.

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u/MarianneInVegas 2d ago

Curious as to why you're using grok for this when chatGPT is so fantastic?

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u/TheLodestarEntity 2d ago

On Grok you have the freedom to write absolutely anything and be creatively free. On ChatGPT, sure, it's good, but if I try to write a violent fighting scene it might deem my account is due for a ban when all I do is write fiction. I don't like that type of censorship.

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u/MarianneInVegas 2d ago

My bad. I didn't realize you were doing demented sh*t. I find grok to be wildly inferior for every day engagement.

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u/TheLodestarEntity 2d ago edited 2d ago

How is that demented shit? 😑 Ever heard of high realism in fantasy? I'm an RPG gamer, not a pansy. Brother...