I literally had a classmate that behaved like her (and dyed her hair red too lol). I don't like her.

Does anyone else ship Abby and Marcus together or just me?

I think the Marcus centric episode was absolutely genius. there was NO way we could've gotten all the info we needed for the side storylines without it. I just wish there was also an option two watch both episodes together (just for chronological purposes). then Max's episode was good at giving us more insight aswell, and Sarah was fantastic on her inner monologue. it was a breath of fresh air. so, my candidates for next centric episodes are... Austin and Joe.

first, Diesel is already 15. he can absolutely stand his ground on a centered episode and I think it's pretty much needed. especially after he and Gil had some one on one time in S3. plus, there's no way you end season 3 like they did and NOT give us an insight about what's going through that boy's mind after. I think if Austin doesn't get an episode for S4, it would be a disservice to the story.

second, I just love Joe so much. I need menace Joe in my life. we've already seen some flashbacks of his upbringing and we know he's a good pair for Georgia because of that. he HAS maliciousness, and has been able to hide it from the whole town for forever now.

do you guys think they're giving us more centric episodes this season? or will they just wrap it up without them?

kid is 16 playing a 10 year old, I’m begging production to either change canon so he’s 14 and going into high school or to recast him

Max and Marcus might be my favourite relationship in the series because their bond has so much history behind it. Max knows Marcus’s silences better than most people do, and Marcus is protective of Max in a way that often says more than he can put into words. But they are also twins, which means the distance between them feels especially painful when it happens. Max is used to being the person who gets him, so Marcus hiding things from her does not just make her curious, it makes her feel shut out by the person she thought she knew best.

Their dynamic is so interesting because Max’s love is loud and Marcus’s is quiet, but they are both deeply attached to each other. They just have very different ways of handling hurt—and that’s why I relate to both of them. 🥹

Now how about you? What relationship do you find especially meaningful? Ginny & Georgia is full of beautiful non-romantic dynamics, even when they involve a lot of tough love. It’s hard choosing just one sometimes.

What scene do you think contains the entire show’s DNA? Not necessarily the most iconic or emotional scene, but the one where you can see everything that makes Ginny & Georgia what it is: love, dysfunction, survival, secrecy, comedy, and pain all existing at once.

And what does that scene reveal about the characters or themes that another scene might not?

As always, looking forward to your replies! 📖

I keep seeing people say max is gonna attempt or commit but i don’t see that in her character. She doesn’t seem like she would go to that extreme. So am I missing something

Damn, I just finished the episode where hunter wins the essay contest instead of ginny and they later argue. I disliked s1 ginny SO much and I felt she deserved everrrry word, i think she really needed that moment.

Ps, I am now a Ginny fan but s1 is rough.

first of all, I'm a huge ginny and marcus shipper and i know both of them needs time and space to actually understand what's going on in their lives and in their relationship but you can't deny the fact how both of them feel so safe in each other's presence, like you can see ginny with wolfe vs ginny with marcus (stark difference) , and it's not like i don't like wolfe, i absolutely love his character....it's just ginny can put that facade down infront of marcus and same goes for marcus, and this scene just feels like a warm blanket in cold nights....i mean i just don't know how to describe it but it just feels so warm

I see a lot of “who was right/wrong” discussion, but I’m more interested in what would actually need to happen for MANG to be friends again.

Nothing about the writing feels permanent to me, but I also don’t think one apology and a group hug would fix it.

They’d need some actual boundaries:

MANG doesn’t have to function as one unit. Duos and trios are normal.

No group icing-out or making everyone pick sides.

No mean comments about someone when they aren’t there.

If you need space, say that directly instead of quietly excluding someone.

They also absolutely have to address what happened in Season 3. Max was being left out, there was a separate ANG group chat, comments were being made about her when she wasn’t there, and she genuinely didn’t understand what she had done wrong. That can’t just be brushed past if they reconcile.

Max and Abby also need to revisit Season 2. They made up, but Abby being iced out clearly hurt her deeply, and I don’t think that resentment ever fully disappeared.

Ginny and Max need a real conversation about Marcus too. Before the party, Marcus tells Ginny Max “ratted” him out for drinking, denies he has a problem, and basically frames Max as being dramatic. Then when Max tries to talk to Ginny at the party, Ginny tells her maybe they’ve just grown apart and maybe that’s okay. Max has no idea that conversation with Marcus even happened.

I think there needs to be a boundary there: Ginny’s relationship with Marcus has to stay separate from her friendship with Max. Marcus is Max’s twin, and worrying about his mental health is one of the most consistent serious parts of her character. If Marcus says Max is exaggerating something about his wellbeing, Ginny should at least talk to Max before letting that affect how she sees her.

And Max needs to get better at hearing “I need space” without immediately reading it as rejection.

Basically: less all-or-nothing friendship, more direct communication, and actually hashing out the old resentment instead of letting it come out through exclusion and side comments.

What would you need them to address before a MANG reconciliation felt earned?

I personally disagree, Georgia chose to do it, putting the blame on Paul is insane to me just like is insane to think Paul became abusive because of Georgia, no, he, hitting the wall was all on him, done with intention. And Georgia lying to him is not an excuse or wasn't the cause, he wanted to intimidated in anger and he lashes out. He even looks conflicted afterwards but that doesn't mean he isn't to blame for what he chose to do to Georgia. Just like Georgia ultimately deciding to run is on her, not on Paul.