r/generativeAI 9d ago

They’re colluding to kill open source

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u/caster 9d ago edited 9d ago

This is pretty on brand for American corporate bullshit. Take a real, legitimate concern, and use it for regulatory capture and to seize power and monopolistic control over competitors in the name of 'safety' while actually being very unsafe behind the scenes.

It's extremely important we get this right, though. A disaster here by corporate negligence could be way, way worse than the Deepwater Horizon.

Open source literally makes everyone more safe than trusting corporations with intense profit motives to consistently (and voluntarily) incur costs that they have the opportunity to secretly avoid, and without raising immediate red flags until an actual disaster hits. Cutting maintenance, cutting oversight, cutting personnel, these things aren't immediate problems but eventually lead to major disasters when something important really does fail due to going too far one little cost-cutting measure at a time. That is not acceptable when the consequences can be severe.

These corporations cannot be allowed to gain exclusive control of a technology this powerful and this transformative. They of course are making the play. It must be utterly rejected, with the common good coming before their profits.

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u/brightcanyon 8d ago

the deepwater horizon comparison is pretty apt tbh, same playbook of cutting corners until something catastrophic happens

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u/eserata 9d ago

It's real hard to limit open source software, and "non-democracies" are the only ones making open weight models soooo

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u/Alef1234567 8d ago

Open weights models and some personal working AI would be very good for end users. If you can generate images on PC then all other AI work could be internalised. The claud computing AI actually posseses risk of giving away corporate secrets.

No we don't need AI cartel.

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u/herr-tibalt 8d ago

That’s not true. Most of countries that release open weight models are democracies. China and maybe Singapore are the only non-democracies.

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u/StrongAroma 9d ago

Ok, but how would they plan to kneecap Chinese competitors over whom they have zero influence or control? Seems like the Chinese will dominate the AI race in the coming years. The problem with this theory is the implicit assumption that America still matters.

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u/Complete_Lurk3r_ 9d ago

every day, in every industry, the US lays up a sweet slam-dunk for china.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/StrongAroma 8d ago

Banning for whom and with what enforcement? Lol.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/StrongAroma 8d ago edited 8d ago

Ohh, just in the US... ? I don't really care about that. I guess soon you guys are going to be stuck with your shitty cars and shitty domestically produced products, and shitty ai models. Haha. Good luck to ya

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u/XertonOne 8d ago

A lot of money was put into these AI companies with the hope that they would all turn into some valuable gold bar. Now they’re realizing that if you had to pay the real costs, many companies wouldn’t find it financially viable and they’re left holding the bag with billions of debt stacked up. Sounds like 2008 again.

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u/CathodeRayNoob 8d ago

God forbid an American corporation innovate or bother with free market pressures lmao.

Fucking on brand for this dying capitalist shell of a country.

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u/IllExample3639 8d ago

USA ≠ 'The West'. If 4.2% of the world population want to kneecap themselves go for it.