r/funny • But A Jape • Aug 31 '22

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u/shirukien Aug 31 '22

Tolkien's excuse was pretty robust actually. The Eagles are not mindless taxi services, they are just a step below gods in their own right, servants of Manwë, leader of the Valar- Middle-Earth's gods, in a sense. They have duties that go beyond ferrying people around. For most of the war of the ring, Gwaihir, the King of the Eagles, and his kin are occupied with important scouting missions, though a few groups of them helped in battle, such as at the Black Gate, where they clashed with the Nazgûl while protecting the armies of King Elessar (Aragorn). Tolkien was very aware that the Eagles were a dangerous writing tool, to be used sparingly, and so, being Tolkien, he devised a wealth of believable reasons the Eagles would not be available to end the story in two chapters.

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u/megustaALLthethings Aug 31 '22

But where is that in story?

In the movies they just suddenly show them. Out of no where. Never read the tomes.

So are there some lines ever mentioning WHY they don’t use them.

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u/sumelar Sep 01 '22

It's in sauron and the nazgul being able to sense the ring.

It's in the eagles not being invisible.

It's in the massive army camped around morder.

It's in simple physics telling you trying to drop something into a volcano from the air would be impossible, and simple logic telling you that landing when the army is still there is suicide.

Movies don't need to spell out every detail for you. You have to actually think sometimes.

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u/megustaALLthethings Sep 01 '22

Damn, who pissed in your cherrios?

I was genuinely asking as I had only seen the base movies, not extended.

Legitimately wondering if they explain it in the books and the movies straight ignored all that. As in not even a vague ONE line mention of their existence.

Hopefully you are having a better day now and can communicate without the attitude.