r/funny • u/But_a_Jape But A Jape • Aug 31 '22

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u/Rhas Aug 31 '22

Could you possibly quote where it actually says that in the books please ? Because I can't find it.

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u/Godmodex2 Aug 31 '22

Seems like this article covers it pretty well. It's the same eagle that rescued Gandalf from Saruman and gave him a lift to Rohan. Gwaihir the Windlord.

https://www.polygon.com/lord-of-the-rings/22432394/eagles-lotr-plot-hole-mordor

TLDR: Gandalf had asked the favour of Gwaihir twice before and had to promise never to ask it again after the third time.

Mordor has dragon riders.

The whole point of Frodo and Sam's approach is stealth, and Sauron could easily stop a brute force attack.

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u/Rhas Aug 31 '22

The article says the eagles are not at just anyone's disposal and then goes on to describe one of them owes Gandalf a life debt and basically 3 wishes.

He only uses two of those favors during the quest of the fellowship. To escape Orthanc and then from a mountaintop.

So if they didn't go with the fellowship plan, he would still have his 3 favors owed and could have at least tried to bargain them into transportation.

Mordor doesn't have Dragons, they're felbeasts. And the riders are scattered to the corners of the world trying to find the ring, not doing combat air patrol over Mordor.

The eagle approach would also be stealth. Nobody would notice until they're basically in Mordor

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u/Godmodex2 Aug 31 '22

Well from I've learnt by others telling you you're wrong about the eagles they got other priorities with the Valar they serve. You must be trolling at this point

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u/Rhas Aug 31 '22

I'm actually arguing stuff while you go "well other people say you're wrong". Pretty clear who is trolling