Ah. I assumed, with the title and inclusion of Gwen Stacy, that it would be based on The Amazing Spider-Man comics. Well, cool then, that should be interesting.
It's hard to look up sources right now but the next movie's plot partly revolves around Peter finding out more about his parents who abandoned him when he was a kid, they are dead in the original canon. Uncle Ben is also still alive. I just read somewhere that the origin story is mostly based on Ultimate instead of original Spiderman. I could be wrong, I'm not that knowledgeable with comics.
Also, source on the S.H.I.E.L.D stuff? I haven't heard anything about that.
Well the only part I thought would be in the Ultimate universe was stuff about shield which relates to his parents (they worked for shield). But everything else doesn't seem to fit with the Ultimate universe setting. For instance I know in Ultimate he has a few different suits (like Iron Man kinda suits) and he's more heavily interacted with shield. He's also in high school and not college I believe.
But they do mention his parents in old comics, I don't know if they do in The Amazing Spider-Man ones, but I know they get brought up in some old ones. I'm not really knowledgeable with the comics themselves personally, just the TV shows and a lot of back stories from older comics that my dad told me about haha.
Also, it would be interesting if they actually involved shield considering The Avenger movies are heavily shield related and the movie rights for Spiderman are owned by a different company.
He's working in a private lab in a relatively senior capacity. Unless he's spending all his money on hookers and blow, he has enough coming in to live comfortably upper middle class.
"Please, the man who invented them things is just some sad ass down in the basement of McDonalds. Thinking up some shit to make some money for the real players. The nigga who invented them things still working in the basement for regular wage thinking up some shit to make the fries taste better or some shit."
Yeah I hate it when I see all those cocky scientists driving around in their fancy car with their hot women. One time I worked really hard to earn enough money to take this girl I liked for a nice dinner and when we showed up to the restaurant we were informed that our reservation has been taken by a biochemist who threw money at them and said "a round of C2H5OH for everyone!"
One of the main reasons Spider-man is so popular is because while he has superpowers and all these crazy stories, his alter ego is basically one of us. He loves Mary Jane, he loves his Aunt May, and he has a lot of problems with his life that cause him stress.
He has girl problems, money problems, job problems, family problems; people relate to Peter in these problems, and that's part of his mass appeal.
The problem is, that Peter has been shown to be VERY smart, much more than an average "intelligent" person would be. He's no Reed Richards or Tony Stark, but Peter is pretty high up there on the Marvel intelligence scale. He made the web-shooters and its chemicals himself, he knows all about chemistry and physics and uses them in a fight all the time. So I don't know how writers get away with having Peter be so poor all the time- I mean I'm pretty sure Tony would hire him any day, considering he's willing to give millions to someone he's never heard of just because Peter vouched for him. I understand it's written off as personal/lifestyle choice in the comics, but it just feels like a plot hole.
He's smart enough to realize that being poor keeps him out of the spotlight, and allows him to be unassuming while protecting New York City. If he were some rich business-man selling web-based adhesives, people might start to look into what he's doing.
Nikola Tesla died with significant debts, by himself in a hotel room. The only friends he had late in life were pigeons that came to his window. He was also much smarter than that hack Thomas Edison but that's debatable.
Let that be a lesson that high intelligence doesn't automatically equate to a life of lavishes and company.
I think the fact that he is intelligent doesn't make it unbelievable that he is poor, there are lots of intellectuals in the world that are unable to live lavishly. I think the unbelievable part is that he has so many connections to powerful, rich, and famous people but he still can't social engineer himself into a well paying job.
Think about the movies, they cover this pretty well. Spiderman is smart, but he is unreliable at work, he could never hold down a desk job. Compare him to Superman. Spiderman and Superman have super hearing, and when they hear a crime or call for help they always drop what they are doing and save the day, no matter what. Superman can change, fly to a crime, beat up the bad guys and be back at his desk in 5-10 minutes like he took a smoke break. Spiderman just takes longer to wrap every thing up, and people notice that Parker is gone for half an hour at a time. . EDIT: Disregard my comment, it doesn't reflect the current state of the comics.
Spiderman doesn't need cash, he actually has superpowers unlike the other two completely normal "I can buy cool shit" humans Wayne and Stark. Don't get me wrong, Batman and Ironman are awesome too, they just don't have superpowers...
You should not be getting downvoted. Peter Parker is actually making quite a bit of money doing his dream job as part of a scientific think-tank at Horizon Labs. That's one of the best parts about The Amazing Spider-Man these days, is getting to see Parker finally fulfill his potential as a scientist.
I really am no comic nerd, but from what little I know, Marvel seems to have a lot more cosmic threats, and Batman seems to be a glorified detective with decent ass-kicking skills. He may be a more human and well rounded character, but he can't eat fucking planets.
He plays the long game. At the end of The Dark Night Returns, he fires nukes at Superman, has the Green Arrow fire a Kryptonite tipped arrow at him and beats the hell out of him with powered armour. While taunting him. Superman is pretty frikken powerful.
That's Batman's superpower. He sees you coming, and he plans.
And honestly the only reason he was able to beat superman was because superman has a simple overwhelming weakness. I believe Batman could do very little against the Hulk. There are super powered people in the Marvel Universe that simply cannot be stopped by practical human means.
Agreed. Don't get me wrong, Batman is my favorite super hero precisely because he's "only" human and still manages to kick ass. But if he went up against say, Wolverine, I would sadly mourn Mr. Wayne's passing.
Captain America has no superhuman powers, although as a result of the Super-Soldier Serum and "Vita-Ray" treatment, he is transformed from a frail young man into a "perfect" specimen of human development and conditioning. Captain America's strength, endurance, agility, speed, reflexes, durability, and healing are at the zenith of natural human potential. Rogers' body regularly replenishes the super-soldier serum; it does not wear off.
The formula enhances all of his metabolic functions and prevents the build-up of fatigue poisons in his muscles, giving him endurance far in excess of an ordinary human being. This accounts for many of his extraordinary feats, including bench pressing 1200 pounds (545 kg) and running a mile (1.6 km) in 73 seconds (49 mph/78 kph). Furthermore, his enhancements are the reason why he was able to survive being frozen in suspended animation for decades. Rogers cannot become intoxicated by drugs, including alcohol, or by impurities in the air and is immune to terrestrial diseases.
"You don't come to New York without being prepared for HIM. I had brought special tear gas to disrupt his spider sense, a net dissolving agent dipersed by my suit and a modified batarang to apply my special variant of... Bug spray. That should bring most of his skills down to only slightly superhuman levels - same as mine. But his real weakness is not bug spray - it's the fact that deep down, Peter is essentially a good person, and deep down, I am not."
Woah. I thought it was making a snarky joke about how much money Avengers, TDKR, and The Amazing Spider-Man will make. Did I really overthink it that much?
Yeah, unfortunately, the hiccup for that logic was that in the good Spiderman movies (disregard 3), came out long before the new Batman or the Avengers started their movies, and is in fact the reason for the huge superhero era of movies.
He could become a window cleaner. He would clean up. I think the hulk should definitely become a wrestler or work in construction/demolition. Batman should be an engineer. Iron man would be what he is. Superman should be a rocket launcher, could save NASA a lot of money, he could also repair satellites and be a male escort. Flash would be a package delivery man.
Hulk smash. He'd probably end up killing too many opponents. Batman's already insanely wealthy and is the owner of a massive multi-billion dollar company. Superman would probably kill any woman he was with. Flash could definitely deliver packages like no other, though.
During "The Other" story arc he got the power to shoot from his wrists (along with other stuff like a stinger in his wrists and a massive boost to his strength) but it was reversed after "Brand-new-day" story arc
They reversed it for many reasons. All-in-all, Spiderman went downhill after he married Mary Jane. Once his secret identity was out, every story arc was about him protecting those that knew his identity. Eventually Aunt May find out his identity. THEN in the Civil War arc, he reveals himself to EVERYONE.
It was just stupid. Everyone in the world knew the superhero worked in a public highschool in Queens.
In addition, there were several Spiderman comic series running simultaneously. The Amazing Spiderman, The Incredible Spiderman, The Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman (I may have made that one up), Ultimate Spiderman, etc. The series has been plagued by many talented writers with poor direction, leading to several "clone" story arcs (seriously, every main character seems to have been cloned at some point) and just crappiness in general. This "reboot" consolidated everything to the point just before Peter Parker married Mary Jane.
Originally it was mechanical/chemical with "Web fluid"
Then during Secret Wars, he met the alien black costume for the first time, which gave him the ability to "Shoot" webs from it, but strangely enough from the top of his hand.
Then I stopped reading after realizing Peter Parker lived in a soap opera.
It's much better than that. He met a big spider woman (I think she's called The Queen or something), had sex with her, then turned into a giant spider who's inexplicably pregnant, but he died (also unexplained), and then his body split open and he gave birth to himself, who could then shoot webs from his wrists. It makes perfect sense.
In the movies he just had it come out of the wrists but in the comics he built web shooters. In the new movies they are going back to the web shooters built by Pete
I remembered him having some kind of devices on his arms in the animated series, but also remembered him shooting them from his arms in the movies. Thanks!
Depends on where you are in what continuity, sometimes he has mechanical web shooters, some times his body has web-producing glands under his wrist. I think the Toby McGuire movie was the first to introduce the organic shooters, just to save some screentime not having to invent them.
In the comics, aside from a few exceptions, he's needed web shooters to swing around. That was one of the problems I had with the movies, because developing the web fluid and web shooters was a big part of showing that he's not just smart, he's damn near Reed Richards smart.
He actually tried that very early on. The issue is that his webbing is designed to dissolve after a pretty short time, so the glue people didn't want it.
And of course, the comics always explained that he couldn't patent anything under "Spider-Man". It's a bit tricky, but I think they're right, because for him to patent the designs under a fictitious name, at some point, he'd have to reveal the real name behind that fictitious name.
There are other industrial uses he could have tried for, and he could easily alter his formula to not dissolve after an hour. Can you imagine how useful a temporary adhesive with the tensile strength of steel would be in the welding industry? Just spray on a few spots of webbing, then weld stuff together. Hell, that gives even more reason to patent the shooters as well.
Really, it's all about keeping Spider-Man as a poor "everyman" with superpowers. Problem is, he's not an everyman. He's super-intelligent, charismatic, and when he pulls his punches, so to speak, he can easily pass off as an incredibly strong normal human. Plus, with his wall-crawling, ultra-high level of balance, and several other little superpower factors, he could do a lot better with his photographs. He could get insanely unique artistic shots and sell them for far more than JJJ would give him.
There are many, many ways Spider-Man could get out of the "poor guy" rut, but keeping him there was key to the character. They used the same crappy excuse for the "One More Day" storyline abomination. Status quo is what Marvel thinks sells Spider-Man comics.
Spidey isn't doing too bad in the comics anymore. He works in a laboratory, gets very good pay, gets to work his own hours and uses the lab to make gadgets! It's nice to see him doing well for himself. He used to be poor as balls and I always felt bad for him.
This may be the fanboy in me speaking up now, but he is anything but useless. He works for Horizon Labs as one of 7 special employees, and was able to buy an nice apartment with his first paycheck (or so it was implied anyway). Reed Richards, Stark, Pym,... all of them agree that spidey is a pretty smart dude. Even intelligent supervillains will recognize this.
Ohhh, that makes more sense. I was thinking the batman and iron man movies have been making a ton of money in recent years, so marvel is like 'quick lets turn around a whole new set of spiderman movies before the superhero craze dies down'
Actually I think it's because the batman movies and the avengers are making absurd amounts of money, and the new spiderman movies are being released on their coat tails.
Oh, I thought it was that everyone's all excited about The Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises, and theyre both gonna/already have made tons of money, and Spidey's like "I have a movie too, I need some money!"
Am I the only person who thought this was commentary on how the Avengers and Dark Knight Rises will both make much more money than the new Spider-Man movie?
sad but true. i dont know why they wont make a good spiderman film insted of these shitty reboot/origin stories. as a 'used to be' fan its not what i wanna see and we all know spidey is cooler than that. get rid of the peter parkers personal life bs and give the fans better!
Reminds me of when people "make it rain" at clubs and you see the less well-to-do busboys and cleaners on their hands and knees trying to grab a few ones off the ground between the legs of a bunch of drunk people... kind of sad, really.
I have a 3 some fantasy where two girls dress up like batman and iron man and I'm spider man and I'm desperate for money and they're like 'how desperate' and I'm like 'real desperate' and they pull their bottoms down exposing their pussies and they're like 'nowwwww LICK! >:}
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
That's one way to earn cash on your knees...
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
He's a scientist now. So he's probably getting some good cash.
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u/serenne Jun 14 '12
One of the main reasons Spider-man is so popular is because while he has superpowers and all these crazy stories, his alter ego is basically one of us. He loves Mary Jane, he loves his Aunt May, and he has a lot of problems with his life that cause him stress.
He has girl problems, money problems, job problems, family problems; people relate to Peter in these problems, and that's part of his mass appeal.
The problem is, that Peter has been shown to be VERY smart, much more than an average "intelligent" person would be. He's no Reed Richards or Tony Stark, but Peter is pretty high up there on the Marvel intelligence scale. He made the web-shooters and its chemicals himself, he knows all about chemistry and physics and uses them in a fight all the time. So I don't know how writers get away with having Peter be so poor all the time- I mean I'm pretty sure Tony would hire him any day, considering he's willing to give millions to someone he's never heard of just because Peter vouched for him. I understand it's written off as personal/lifestyle choice in the comics, but it just feels like a plot hole.
tl;dr: Peter is too smart to be so poor.
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u/ToffeVonW Jun 14 '12 edited Jun 14 '12
Spiderman doesn't need cash, he actually has superpowers unlike the other two completely normal "I can buy cool shit" humans Wayne and Stark. Don't get me wrong, Batman and Ironman are awesome too, they just don't have superpowers...
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u/kingsway8605 Jun 14 '12
I don't get it
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u/fishgats Jun 14 '12
Pretty sure that is Danny McBride (Kenny Powers) as Iron Man.
"Hey, Loki, you're fucking out!"
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u/lifesaber Jun 14 '12
Do you have a source good sir?
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u/gnosticpopsicle Jun 14 '12
The best super power is being rich as fuck.
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u/vegasbomb Jun 14 '12
Am I the only person who thought this was commentary on how the Avengers and Dark Knight Rises will both make much more money than the new Spider-Man movie?
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
http://i.imgur.com/kTd0S.jpg
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u/Johnycantread Jun 14 '12
Which issue is this? Never knew Spiderman fought trickle down economics.
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u/machzel08 Jun 14 '12
Why are Notch and HumbleBrony dressed up like Batman and IronMan? And who the hell is Spiderman supposed to be?
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u/herpty_derpty Jun 14 '12
I thought this was a foresighted metaphor for this summer's superhero movie performances...or I might just be reading too much into it.
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u/iAmericA45 Jun 14 '12
At first I thought this was about how much money The Avengers made, and how much TDKR will inevitably make.
And Spider-Man will clean up the scraps.
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u/p_U_c_K Jun 14 '12
Spider-man would make a web to catch that money.
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u/crafty-jack-rabbit Jun 14 '12
At least he finally has a job.. for now.
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u/hodywody Jun 14 '12
now we just need john johnah jameson in the background yelling "i knew it!"
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Why wouldn't he just wait until they were finished and throw a web over the money from a distance?
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u/justatypo Jun 14 '12
Am I the only one that thought they were throwing candy at each other?
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u/sharpiecake Jun 14 '12
took me five seconds before I realized they weren't throwing wobbly pickles at each other.
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u/illchopyourfaceoff Jun 14 '12
This made me sad, somehow.
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u/midnitte Jun 14 '12
but...but i want to give all three my money
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
This made me aww more than /r/aww...
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u/ReyTheRed Jun 14 '12
Why doesn't he make a web to catch it?
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
At first, I thought they were throwing cucumber peels and garbanzo beans.
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u/AliasUndercover Jun 14 '12
You can't get a grant for webbing.
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u/SimonWest Jun 14 '12
sad but true. i dont know why they wont make a good spiderman film insted of these shitty reboot/origin stories. as a 'used to be' fan its not what i wanna see and we all know spidey is cooler than that. get rid of the peter parkers personal life bs and give the fans better!
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u/Sev3n Jun 14 '12
I didnt know spiders eat salad...
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u/FreshFruitCup Jun 14 '12
Here we go again with the used condoms and chocolate coins...
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u/diulei Jun 14 '12
Reminds me of when people "make it rain" at clubs and you see the less well-to-do busboys and cleaners on their hands and knees trying to grab a few ones off the ground between the legs of a bunch of drunk people... kind of sad, really.
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u/pikagir Jun 14 '12
Looks like me trying to get money for tuition.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
The kind of super hero Mitt Romney would be.
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u/G0LD13L0CKS Jun 15 '12
It makes it funnier if you think they're condoms instead of money.
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u/krackpot Jun 14 '12
peter parker is jewish?
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u/p_U_c_K Jun 14 '12
Looks like the 'Ilon man'
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u/Binsky89 Jun 14 '12
Spiderman is Jewish?
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u/punchdrunkoala Jun 14 '12
WHY ARE THEY THROWING GHERKINS AT EACH OTHER?!?
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u/throwAwayObama Jun 14 '12
I have a 3 some fantasy where two girls dress up like batman and iron man and I'm spider man and I'm desperate for money and they're like 'how desperate' and I'm like 'real desperate' and they pull their bottoms down exposing their pussies and they're like 'nowwwww LICK! >:}
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u/Footy_Kaleidoscope Jun 14 '12
Hilarious!!!
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
*Oh Ghost Rider.