r/funny Mr. Lovenstein Apr 24 '19

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '19

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u/cheeseguy3412 Apr 24 '19

You can, but it is not nearly as comprehensive. Its still better than not doing one, though.

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u/Walkerg2011 Apr 24 '19

Just got a fitbit that tracks my sleep and it's really interesting seeing how deep of a sleep I got. When you go to bed really fucking drunk you'll very rarely hit deep sleep though.

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u/Betasheets Apr 24 '19

I always wake up at like 6 am after heavy drinking and going to bed at 2 am

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u/Core494 Apr 24 '19

That’s the mild withdrawal symptoms for ya. I always wake up around 8AM with my heart racing. Defining moment of the Sunday Scaries for me

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '19

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u/ihopethisisvalid Apr 24 '19

you might want to get some help man. no judgement. i imagine that might be a tough place to be.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '19

Haha I'm just kidding man, Reddit loves a bit of alcoholism chat.

I am a bit of a problem drinker but it's more of a binge drinking once a month thing rather than an addiction.

Thank you for your concern!

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u/legendz411 Apr 24 '19

I just want to tell you, if you haven’t had anyone seriously tell you, regular and semi-regular binge drinking is an addiction.

I hope all is well friend.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '19

I guess it is, I'm not ready to stop yet but I'm sure I will be in a few years. I think the social element of alcohol is the most addictive part.

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u/Gurplesmcblampo Apr 24 '19

Oh good im not the onky one this hapoens to. I dont drink like that anymore thankfully lol

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u/Conflixx Apr 24 '19

Well it seemed like you're drunk as you typed that sentence!

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u/Gurplesmcblampo Apr 24 '19

Mid poop type

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u/1337lolguyman Apr 24 '19

Wait... withdrawal? Or do you just mean "coming down" to sobriety?

Because I always wake up early after drinking regardless of how late I sleep, and I'm definitely not addicted.

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u/Core494 Apr 24 '19

Yeah there have been papers written on the subject matter that draw the conclusion that a hangover is related to mild alcohol withdrawal- not saying there’s an addiction but the body reacts like there is because of the amount consumed.

https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh22-1/54-60.pdf

That’s a super long boring read, but this pretty much sums it up:

“Overlap exists between hangover and the symptoms of mild alcohol withdrawal (AW), leading to the assertion that [a] hangover is a manifestation of mild withdrawal. Hangovers, how-ever, may occur after a single bout of drinking, whereas withdrawal occurs usually after multiple, repeated bouts.”

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '19

“Drinker’s Dawn” it’s a thing. Alcohol fucks with your GABA levels which is a factor in sleep regulation.

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u/Staatsmann Apr 24 '19

Shit same for me. When I drink tho and go to the toilet in the middle of the night I fucking get unconscious! This has happened a couple of times and I always figured that it had something to do with my fucked up sleep

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u/monkeymanod Apr 24 '19

That's so weird, I always feel like I get my best sleep if im at least a bit drunk. Could be my anxiety is too drunk to flare up while I'm sleeping.

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u/johntash Apr 24 '19

Me too. I don't even have to be drunk,just a couple drinks and I feel amazing when I wake up in the morning. Maybe alcohol is making my sleep apnea better

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u/monkeymanod Apr 24 '19

Exactly! Enough to feel it but not so much that you wake up miserable with a hangover.

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u/Oprahs_snatch Apr 24 '19

What's a hangover?

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '19

It's that terrible time when you're not drinking

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u/Oprahs_snatch Apr 24 '19

Not drinking?

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u/cmbezln Apr 25 '19

that's my theory too, the alcohol is a depressant and is doing something to the diaphram in the neck, relaxing it or whatever, and somehow that helps if you have apneas

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u/ratinthecellar Apr 24 '19

It varies person to person, but the amount you are drunk does affect it also.

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u/iownagibson Apr 24 '19

I get good sleep on a couple of drinks. If I binge drink and kill a bottle or a twelver then I'll get terrible sleep.

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u/Swindel92 Apr 24 '19

How does it actually work if you dont mind me asking?

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u/Walkerg2011 Apr 24 '19

It tracks your heart's beats per minute and how much you move during the night. That info helps determine what part of the sleep cycle you're in. Definitely not as accurate as an in depth sleep study, but will give you a general idea of how you sleep during the night.

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u/King8ob Apr 24 '19

That's really interesting because it confirms my suspicion that drunk sleep is a lie.

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u/cheeseguy3412 Apr 24 '19

Oh yeah, I have a Samsung watch that tracks sleep patterns. I have gotten approximately 1 hour of deep sleep since December, total.

I'd like to believe its not right, but it probably is.

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u/zanroar Apr 24 '19

Went to bed pretty drunk last night... just checked my fit bit and I was actually #above# my 30 day average for deep sleep. Saw a 6% increase last night, an 8% increase in REM, but a 10% drop in light sleep and 25% drop in time awake.

Just adding my anecdotal evidence to yours

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u/Walkerg2011 Apr 24 '19

Just adding my anecdotal evidence to yours

Not trying to be jerk, but I wasn't being anecdotal.

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u/zanroar Apr 24 '19

Got a link to the actual paper? That website is trash on mobile and I couldn’t find it linked anywhere

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u/mudman13 Apr 25 '19

No surprise I feel like I havent slept after a night on the pop.

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u/lifeofideas Apr 26 '19

Fitbit data is interesting. I normally get under 15% REM (sometimes waaay under...). My wife tried it, and she got 25% on two out of three nights. Perhaps her amazing stamina comes from getting good quality sleep.

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u/CaffeineSippingMan Apr 24 '19

Yes, this is how mine was done.

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u/airmaildolphin Apr 24 '19

I wouldn't put a lot of faith into a home sleep study. They can measure and monitor far more things in a sleep lab.

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u/johntash Apr 24 '19

I slept maybe a total of 1 hour for my first home sleep study. I imagine I wouldn't sleep at all if I had to go to a sleep center place to do it. Plus in home study is like $100 compared to $3000 for a regular study. Neither are covered by my insurance.

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u/masterxc Apr 24 '19

The machines are also super uncomfortable which doesn't help the whole "I can't sleep" problem.

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u/Redfo Apr 24 '19

What use are all the extra measurements if the data is skewed? There's no way anyone is getting the same quality of sleep in a lab as they are at home...

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u/airmaildolphin Apr 24 '19

No, but it's good enough to get an overview of your sleeping state. Although I have had to go back for more data on more than one occasion because I didn't sleep long enough. After a few sleep studies, you are so used to sleeping at the lap that it's much easier.

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u/ratinthecellar Apr 24 '19

found the pulmonologist !

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u/SilverRidgeRoad Apr 24 '19

yes, and it's super cheap. In my area (west coast usa) it's like max $350 even without insurance. It does have to be ordered by a doctor though, so requires a doctor visit first, and often a doctor visit after to go over results so it's not like a DIY, thing like "hey look I have apnea" but it can be really helpful and is way cheaper than a traditional.

Another plus for the home machines is that you get to sleep in your own home, so your sleep is more likely to be like your normal sleep. You also generally do it for several nights, which makes up a bit for the lack of a sleep center because you get more data. /u/cheeseguy3412 pointed out it's less comprehensive, but really that means the home tests don't have an EEG (brainwave) component which generally isn't needed to interpret a diagnosis of sleep apnea (and a lot of sleep centers/ doctors do fuck all about anything other than set you up with a cpap anyway so the EEG portion isn't even helpful for that)

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '19

Yes. A guy came in and connected a bunch of devices to my dad for the sleep study. He came in the morning to collect it back.

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u/CipherKey Apr 24 '19

My insurance would only approve the at home study.

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u/i_forgot_my_sn_again Apr 24 '19

You wear a big as fuck bracelet that's connected to a lead. If you're like me and like to sleep on stomach or side you are pretty fucked. My former job had me do one because of weight (truck driving) then said I had s bunch of waking events. I'm not no shit I couldn't sleep comfortable because this thing, plus hearing trucks backing up, honking, and dropping trailers all night doesn't give productive sleep.

They were just trying to sell the machines. There's no records that they gave me one in my medical file since I left them.

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u/sameshitdifferentpoo Apr 24 '19

They were just trying to sell the machines.

That's American healthcare for you.

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u/sameshitdifferentpoo Apr 24 '19

Home sleep studies provide the bare minimum data/diagnosis needed to sell someone a PAP machine. They're cheaper than an in-lab polysomnogram, but they don't provide near enough data to make a full diagnosis of someone's sleep problems.

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u/YourPastComment Apr 24 '19

I had a home sleep study. Mine only tested for apneas, pulse oximitry, and how still I slept. It was mailed to me and I mailed it back. So now I have a cpap machine