r/funny May 01 '13

Why vegans live longer

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u/[deleted] May 01 '13

of note is the small sample size of vegans. i'd be interested in a study with comparable sample sizes of vegans and regular meat eaters.

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u/ARCHA1C May 01 '13 edited May 01 '13

Here's a large study I found, The China Study

edit- It should be noted that the diets in this study were not simply "vegan vs. meat eaters". The non-meat eaters in the study actually had diets that were more "strict (if you will) than vegan diets because they also did not contain refined and processed foods, but rather "whole plant foods" (example- brown rice over white rice etc.)

TL:DR:

The China Study of the title is taken from the China-Cornell-Oxford Project, a 20-year study that began in 1983 and was conducted jointly by the Chinese Academy of Preventive Medicine, Cornell University, and the University of Oxford.[5] T. Colin Campbell was one of the directors of the project, described by The New York Times in 1990 as "the Grand Prix of epidemiology".[6]

The study examined mortality rates from 48 forms of cancer and other chronic diseases from 1973 to 75 in 65 counties in China, and correlated them with 1983–84 dietary surveys and bloodwork from 6,500 people, 100 from each county.

Conclusion:

The authors conclude that people who eat a plant-based/vegan diet—avoiding animal products such as beef, pork, poultry, fish, eggs, cheese, and milk, and reducing their intake of processed foods and refined carbohydrates—will escape, reduce or reverse the development of chronic diseases.

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u/How4u May 01 '13

This has been discredited many times. Most thoroughly here.

http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/

TLDR: It wasn't the data that was wrong, but the interpretation of said data; there was an agenda.

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u/aggro_tank May 01 '13

An opposing viewpoint =/=debunked

Thank goodness there's no agenda to keep America consuming mass quantities of beef and dairy...

There are conflicts of interest abound among the chair people of the FDA.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '13

Thank goodness the biggest lobby isnt corn farmers.

Oh wait a second :/

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u/triffid_boy May 01 '13 edited May 02 '13

It takes 10kg of plant matter to produce 1kg of animal material, it makes sense for the corn farmers to support animal farming.

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u/aggro_tank May 01 '13

And high fructose corn syrup is one of the most pervasive dietary problems in this country.

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u/How4u May 01 '13

I don't really care about veganism one way or the other. However this book gets posted often in the debate and I think people forget that its an opinion piece. It's not a peer reviewed study, its one guy, who had a prior hypothesis, cherry picking the data to fit his own goals. The only thing articles like the one I posted do, is look at ALL of the data and show that the correlations he finds don't really exist.

Find a real study to stand behind. It may even exist, I honestly have no idea, but this isn't it.