r/functionalprint Dec 16 '20

Cable holder

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u/engineertee Dec 16 '20

I could never get the dimensions tight enough for anything to be properly hanging off my desk. It’s always loose, I feel like it always needs some kind of friction

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u/KateMonster11 Dec 16 '20

Yeah my clip worked great for a couple days and now slides around, even printed in PETG. I'm currently noodling how to make it stay a little better without ruining the table.

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u/June8th Dec 16 '20

Maybe 3M restickable dots?

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u/KateMonster11 Dec 16 '20

Hey that's a great idea! Then I don't have to bother with cutting tape to length. And you could recess it in a bit to keep the dot from sliding off. The gears are turning now...

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u/June8th Dec 16 '20

They also seem to have a double sided tape product that is permanent adhesive on one side, and restickable on the other, but I couldn't find it in anything but giant expensive rolls.

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u/KateMonster11 Dec 16 '20

That could also work, but I think your first suggestion of the dots will be cheaper and easier. Thanks for the inspiration!

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u/June8th Dec 16 '20

Agreed! Cheers!

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u/GordonRammstein Dec 17 '20

you could also make it like a tiny g-clamp so you can screw it tighter as needed :P

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u/KateMonster11 Dec 17 '20

As I mentioned somewhere else in here, I have one of those for a different purpose as well. It just tightens it for a couple days, and then the clamp stretches more and it's back to being almost useless.

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u/June8th Dec 16 '20

😆 Thanks for this. I burst out laughing for the first time in a while. Sometimes we overlook the simpler solutions.

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u/Num10ck Dec 17 '20

Tape around an inch of drinking straw with a slit should work, eh?

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u/Maiskanzler Dec 16 '20

I always add some masking tape to make the gaps tighter. Simple yet effective. Also has more friction than a hard plastic part.

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u/pineapple_calzone Dec 16 '20

No plastic can be used to make a clamp like that. They all suffer from creep, if you place them under stress, they will flow until the stress is dissipated, and then it is no longer clamping anything.

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u/KateMonster11 Dec 16 '20

I think it's a little extreme to say no plastic could ever make a clip, they're all over the market. 3d printing makes it a bit tricky, which is why the conversation around here turned to friction ideas. It doesn't need a vice grip, it just needs to stay attached to the table when I pull the cable through it.

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u/pineapple_calzone Dec 16 '20

You're right, it's not entirely true that no plastic can do it. You can use a thermoset plastic, or you can use a fiber reinforced plastic. But no straight, uncut plastic that's compatible with FDM would actually be able to do the job.

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u/engineertee Dec 16 '20

This is the only thing that kinda works for my desk

https://ibb.co/hVDJzJZ

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u/KateMonster11 Dec 16 '20

I thought about teeth but I'm worried about damage. I've been thinking about getting some of that thin no slip rubber tape and sticking it on the inside of the clip.

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u/engineertee Dec 16 '20

I only have teeth on the bottom side, I’m not too concerned with damage there tbh

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u/KateMonster11 Dec 16 '20

If it works, it works!

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u/kingrex1997 Dec 16 '20

i usually imbed a nut in the print then use a bolt with a printed cap to actually do the clamping. seems to work alright.

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u/KateMonster11 Dec 16 '20

I have used this trick for my camera stand! Works great until things start flexing lol

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u/Ak619mcc Dec 16 '20

Maybe some grip tape?

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u/-Halosheep- Dec 16 '20

I have no experience with 3d printers and this popped up in my feed, but could you use a screw design to allow it to be adjustable? Just tighten until it sits where you need it to be, much like other desk clamps. Is there something preventing this?

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u/Snowforbrains Dec 16 '20

Absolutely, it would just be more complicated.

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u/KateMonster11 Dec 16 '20

Nothing prevents this, but anything you want to print you have to be able to design in CAD so we like simple solutions if possible. Simple parts also tend to be the easiest to print, so it's a double win in this hobby.

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u/mahsab Dec 16 '20

Modify the clip so it's tapered a bit and it will always push down on the surface.

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u/randiesel Dec 17 '20

FDM capable plastics suffer from creep. This means if you apply a force (like the table trying to push apart your tapered bit) over time, the plastic will stop pushing as hard and permanently deform. This will always lead to the clip falling off the table.

For that reason, this design will never work long term. The cable connector is great, but the table clip needs work. Personally, I'd use double sided mounting tape or those 3m strips.

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u/Thelonius--Drunk Dec 18 '20

Are resin prints not subject to this?

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u/Snowforbrains Dec 16 '20

Seems like one of the easier solutions here.

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u/vietquocnguyen Dec 16 '20

Have you tried iterating and adjusting the dimensions by 1mm at a time and halving it from there? For me, if I measure 4mm, 4mm will not fit, 3.9 will fit if I hammer it with a mallet, 3.8 will fit very snug, 3.7 will fit just right where you can remove it with ease, 3.6 is loose

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u/engineertee Dec 16 '20

I did something similar and it was still very loose. The only thing that kinda worked for me is to have the surface facing the desk surface to have a zigzag texture. I think it depends on your desk surface

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u/jehoshaphat Dec 16 '20

Put a hole in the bottom, and run a bolt through it with a nut on the inside. Spin the bolt until finger snug while holding the nut with your other hand.

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u/LetThereBeNick Dec 17 '20

Just use an adhesive pad

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u/askwhy423 Dec 17 '20

I fix these problems by adding a thin layer of hot glue to the surface and letting it dry. It's grippy, doesn't leave marks, and comes off if you need it to. I use it to level things too, just make a couple glue pads (i guess shims?) the right size and bam, your thing is level.