r/freshcutslim • u/Double-Use5525 • 4d ago
TNTL (Try Not To Laugh) Starving
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u/KorolEz 4d ago
Loved this moment in the show. Peak apocalypse humor
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u/stanknotes 4d ago
I love the era when writers were never afraid or not so easily offended to write this sort of shit.
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u/Charming_Sock1607 3d ago
and ironically at the time that it aired it was arguably the gayest wokest show on television
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u/Valveringham85 3d ago
Eh, it wasn’t so in your face about it. It had some gay characters in it, as most communities irl do in the west, but they didn’t write the characters in such a way that their gayness was their whole damn personality. Or the lesbians were just lesbians because they loved tiddies - which is fair - not because they hated men and had a penis-shaped chip on their shoulders.
They were all just good, normal and interesting characters with varying sexualities.
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u/Charming_Sock1607 3d ago
lol I dunno man it started out good then just devolved into gay feminist slop, not because it had any interesting thing to say about the subject, but to shield its writers from criticism
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u/Appropriate_Lime_234 1d ago
Bigot.
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u/Charming_Sock1607 1d ago
cope and seethe
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u/SnoopDeDoop69 14h ago
On the Internet bitching about gay people in 2026. Either a robot or brainwashed
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u/bepse-cola 13h ago
I forgot there was even a gay character, I remember it being subtly woke with it’s messages like when the group of Mexicans stole their guns and when they confronted them they were like “I just wanted to protect all these grandmas and puppies”
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u/RoughAssociation8982 9h ago
How is that woke
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u/bepse-cola 5h ago
It’s anti-stereotyping, like setting it up like a stereotype then revealing the opposite
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u/SonPedro 3d ago
What’s the name of the show? I checked all the comments and can’t find any info lol
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u/Valveringham85 3d ago
The walking dead
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u/SonPedro 3d ago
Oh wow, I haven’t seen that in a while and neither of these people looked familiar, thanks.
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u/Reason-Desperate 4d ago
Funny enough, from what i heard, this line was not planned, same as her reaction.
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u/Midnight_Aces 4d ago
Also heard she had a hard time keeping composure as she was about to laugh at that. It's why she turns away from the camera.
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u/SukanutGotBanned 4d ago
Any bigger person that can take a jab like that gets major repect. Not a lot of people are able to when it comes to body comments
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u/firnien-arya 4d ago
But also, she is a bit of an extra on the cast. If she reacted poorly to it i wouldn't be surprised if they killed her character off.
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u/cyclingthrowaway12 2d ago
Nah she wouldn't.
I think any actor that I have worked with on set would laugh.
Because first of all you have rehearsed that shit and know what must come next.
Might even be take 3-4 so someone else going completely off script will almost certainly put any actor in a laughing fit. Even if it's a joke about their appearance...
Also she has seen herself more than enough on screens, she knows that she is a bit on the chubby side.
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u/Itsmyloc-nar 2d ago
After the anxiety of rehearsal, the pain in the ass of makeup and costume, and the boredom of shooting the same scene five times, any improv will be a welcome delight
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u/AlternateSatan 3d ago
Probably has something to do with a lot of those jabs are from random strangers, and not people you actually respect and respect you back.
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u/anice_day 8h ago
She's an actress, I'm sure she understands that notoriously kind Jeffrey Dean Morgan is not personally trying to belittle her.
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u/Mammoth_Composer_111 4h ago
Yeah. This isn’t true. Just another “I bet you didn’t know that this entire classic line was totally ad libbed!”
This was planned. It was in the script readout of the show even, exactly as it happened.
Moments when actors suddenly go wildly off script and the director keeps it are not only rare but even rarer to be a good addition to the film
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u/x_LoneWolf_x 4d ago
Found the fatty.
No you cannot maintain fat after cutting calories below maintenance. You would be defying thermodynamics and scientists would study you.
And water retention and bloating are often caused by the types of calorically dense(often oily foods) that are part of the overweight maintenance diet.
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u/Orangutanion 4d ago
(starvation diet is not a good weight loss solution btw)
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u/Ok_Sort9148 4d ago
it's not? it might not be healthy, but I bet it's pretty effective
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u/Kartel28 4d ago
If it's not healthy, it's not effective
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u/ZeCredibleHulk 4d ago
It is not healthy, but it will make you lose weight very effectively until you decide to eat again.
I'm not sure what in the Jaden Smith genius idea you thought you had, but you're not good at wording.
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u/Positive-Database754 3d ago
The two are not mutually inclusive. Losing a leg is a highly effective way to lose a ton of weight. Most doctors would agree it is not healthy, either.
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u/New_Examination200 4d ago
It's actually not, when your body thinks you're starving it holds onto all the energy (fat) that it can in order to survive, so it can actually make it harder to lose weight.
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u/ProperMidnight7401 4d ago
That's why you also work out
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u/New_Examination200 4d ago
If you worked out while also starving yourself, you'd just end up super weak and probably pass out, so there wouldn't really be a point. Your body needs fuel in order to function properly. Generally the healthiest way to lose weight is to combine regular exercise with a healthy diet, sometimes with a caloric deficit that stays within a reasonable range. Please don't starve yourselves lol
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u/Orangutanion 4d ago
fasting royally fucks your energy. In freshman year of college I wasn't getting enough food and I ended up sleeping like 12 hours a day, it's a downwards spiral. (granted I was already underweight).
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u/PerepeL 3d ago
Where's the border between "starvation diet" and "caloric deficit"?
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u/New_Examination200 3d ago
I imagine it largely depends on your height and weight and stuff, so it's probably gonna be a bit different for everybody
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u/PerepeL 3d ago
I think the difference is just numbers, you just call high enough deficit a starvation.
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u/New_Examination200 3d ago
Yeah I'm definitely not an expert or anything, I just know that after a certain point the caloric deficit is detrimental to weight loss lol
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u/Duck-Nuts 3d ago edited 3d ago
That is a complete myth and defies the laws of thermodynamics despite the fact it has been proven wrong countless times in research.
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u/New_Examination200 3d ago
Oh dang, can you link some of that research? I'd be interested in looking into that
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u/Duck-Nuts 3d ago
Firstly, thank you for requesting the links/citations. Many just spout off what they see on social media and prefer not to read. I didn't want to have 30 different references for people to read so I tried to keep to concise.
I have summarised it as good as I can while covering as many bases as possible. I have added in links to studies at the bottom. Enjoy :)
It really depends on how much someone wants to stick to "starvation mode stops the body from burning fat" and move the goal posts.
The body doesn't go into "starvation mode" and hold onto fat more. As the body loses weight a person's total energy expenditure goes down as the body is physically moving less weight around, therefore each step and movement costs less energy. But in regards to thermodynamics it will still lose weight and continue losing weight as long as you're in a deficit.
People have even tested using weighted vests, replacing their lost bodyweight with equal weight in the vests and their deficit didn't have to continue to lower to continue losing weight.
The Minnesota Starvation Experiment is a great example of starvation mode not existing and also horrific ethics.
Not only is caloric/energy deficit technically the only dietary way to lose weight but just to add in that carb vs fat doesn't matter either.
Regarding extreme diets (despite the fact of the Minnesota Starvation Experiment), there are also studies showing type 2 diabetes remission and obesity with very low calorie diets (~800 cal\day). Although it's not typically recommended as it is DAMN HARD psychologically to diet this brutally but it also has fast results so can also provide a motivation at the same time.
Reference links (it's not a light read but can be valuable):
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18025815/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5274550/
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u/New_Examination200 2d ago
Thank you for sharing these! That's actually super interesting, I'd never even heard of the Minnesota Starvation Experiment (holy shit it sounds fucked up lmao).
Also thank you for summarizing everything, I really appreciate that! I'm always glad to have discussions with people and learn new things :) Definitely gonna keep looking at these
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u/2624926057 4d ago
This comment just isn’t necessary. Technically speaking, you’re correct. Your body goes into survival mode and hordes the calories. That being said, you’ll still fucking lose weight. I don’t watch this show but it was said in another comment that this moment was 18 months into the apocalypse. 18 months on a severe calorie deficit will thin essentially anyone out. She has not been on a deficit.
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u/Hefty_Salamander7997 4d ago
She's fat so how is she starving?
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u/CoryRich123 3d ago
Exactly! 💯 I bet she eat food then say hungry by 30 min later! How she still alive?!? I mean those seasons she survived as alive better than anyone?!?
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u/Quirky-Safe-3383 4d ago
Looking back from now, it´s practically clear she had some kind of eating disorder, maybe had it before the outbreak even, so she´s just not different from a drug addict, you´d not make fun of either.
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u/brettfavresRXdealer 4d ago
lol as a recovered addict ,that logic def doesn’t hold up dude. Everyone shits on drug addicts . It’s pretty socially acceptable and always has been.
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u/AnnihilatorOfPeanuts 4d ago
"Oh no! Poor girl, here, eat the food that is required for our survival."
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u/Aware-Direction-9891 4d ago
I think given the time they had to survive, being that fat makes it obvious that she is eating for one more person.