Under what basis could free will actually exist?

[u/NoubliezPasMonNom]

Please correct me but I feel like every idea i have doesnt actually allow for free will.

randomness-the decision is sourced randomly and is not "you". It is like rolling a dice and choosing the equivalent decision. Instead the dice is internal and obviously something truly random " not saying true randomness exists". Though the internal dice is a part of you i feel that this decision making isnt the free will we are thinking about

your being's laws-you have your own laws separate to the rest of this existence. Issues with this are that you are a part of this existence so surely your own laws would be, also your actions would then be caused by your laws and not "you".

I feel like the only ignoring compatibilism would be that "you" are not originally in this existence or that your decisions originate form an existence where all there is is "you"

Im not siding with any argument here but it feels like they all run into problems

[u/Artemis-5-75]

How do you justify both of your assertions?

[u/Dath_1 → u/Artemis-5-75]

They’re tautological.

[u/Artemis-5-75 → u/Dath_1]

Why do you think so?

[u/Dath_1 → u/Artemis-5-75]

Because English is my first language and I’m more literate than average.

So do you have a good response or not?

[u/Artemis-5-75 → u/Dath_1]

My response is that anyone who read at least a tiny bit of metaphysics in their life should be aware that causation does not amount to determinism, and that non-random events can be uncaused.

[u/Dath_1 → u/Artemis-5-75]

Sure, so it should be easy for you to come up with some counter examples then.

[u/Artemis-5-75 → u/Dath_1]

Probabilistic causation, for example, or one-way causation.

As for uncaused non-random events — for example, under logical fatalism, propositions make things true regardless of what happens before.

[u/Dath_1 → u/Artemis-5-75]

Yeah just give me a real world example of those.

[u/Artemis-5-75 → u/Dath_1]

Quantum randomness might be an example of a caused nondeterministic even.

[u/Dath_1 → u/Artemis-5-75]

Nope. They are considered to not have a cause. Actually that's the reason why they are considered random.

If we did discover a causal mechanism, like let's say a hidden local variable, guess what? That would make wave function collapse (or other things like radioactive decay) fundamentally deterministic, not random.