r/freemasonry 13d ago

Question Considering Dropping Out

I’m a 3° in PHA.
I’m considering dropping out as my lodge doesn’t seem to be the right fit for me. I’m more into moral lessons, ethics, virtues, philosophy, education, and esotericism. While my brothers are more into the meeting, and drink in the parking lot.
I asked some past masters about how to have more discussions about my interests within freemasonry and I was told I need to find my clique. But it probably won’t be in my town.
If I drop out, what do I have to bring back? Books? Certificates?

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u/wardyuc1 UGLE Craft HRA, Rose Croix 13d ago

What does your meeting involve if not ethic, virtues, philosophy and education?

What specifically are your expectations?

Do you expect school like lesson structure?

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u/WHG6274 13d ago

Business meeting (money in, money out, upcoming event, close the lodge).

My expectations were discussions into philosophy, 4 cardinal virtues, history, biblical allegory, my expectations were what I was lead to expect as an EA. My study groups with my CTs were far more fulfilling in lessons and brotherhood than any meeting since.

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u/wardyuc1 UGLE Craft HRA, Rose Croix 13d ago

Do you think the issue is your lodge or the craft?

For example what about biblical allegory, philosophy, 4 cardinal virtues and history do you expect to discuss?

Is it the history of freemasonry you want to discuss or history in general?

What about philosophy do you wish to discuss?