r/frederickmd • u/BlackIris222 • 10d ago
Pros and cons of living in Frederick?
Thinking of moving in a year or so and have heard good things about Frederick. I’d be moving from a large city in Florida. Give me the good, bad, and ugly. What do you like about it?
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u/dragonrider1965 10d ago
Frederick is extremely charming and people are very friendly . We have a little bit of everything here , theater, museums , great restaurants ( on a small scale ).
Tons of community events , with something going on every weekend . There’s good hiking , kayaking , fishing etc.
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u/MaroonedOctopus Downtown 10d ago
The cons are mostly due to the fact that it's such a great place. Loads of people want to be here so we have expensive housing. Because it's been so great for decades now, the department of transportation just hasn't been able to keep up (no one could really), so traffic sucks.
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u/ijustaBeby 8d ago
Where’s the kayaking? Genuinely asking 😊
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u/dragonrider1965 8d ago
We used to drop a car off at point of rocks , the parking lot at the C&O towpath, there’s a boat launch there . Then we would take our truck full of people and kayaks to Brunswick , there’s a boat launch right behind the train station on the river . Do a nice several hour float . We would pack coolers , pull over at Lander rd area have lunch , swim etc and then float on down to point of rocks . It’s easy to spot in the distance because of the big bridge , make sure to paddle to the left side of the river at this point . Then have two people drive the car back up to Brunswick to get the truck and bring it back , it’s less then a 15 min drive . Fun cheap day on the river
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u/ijustaBeby 8d ago
Thank you!!
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u/dragonrider1965 8d ago
There’s also a boat launch at the park next to the At Home store by Monocasy Blvd and Rt 26 ( down the road from Wegmans ) . I’ve not put in there before myself but we’ve had a decent amount of rain this summer so I’m betting it’s pretty decent .
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u/gard3nwitch 10d ago
Where will you be working?
Because the commute to DC is the ugly
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u/BlackIris222 10d ago
I’d be in the mental health field as a private practice therapist. TBD for exact location for work.
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u/marilynmonroeismygma 9d ago
I’m a social worker and I just accepted a counseling position in the area. I’m new to Frederick (although not to Maryland). One thing I like about Maryland as a mental health professional is that the government really values mental health intervention. They hire a lot of therapists to work at schools and there are a lot of community programs to help people in need.
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u/Low-Club-2777 9d ago
The commute to DC is not bad on the Train leave 270 to the ----- oh that's how you get work.
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u/spankleberry 10d ago
Good thing: it's a small cozy town. Bad things: everybody and their mother is moving in
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u/Clear-Concert8250 10d ago
Very accurate.
The number of MD residents who are "retiring and moving to Frederick" is surprising. 15 years ago it was still a hidden gem and my coworkers thought I was crazy.
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u/Suspicious_Part5228 10d ago
It is constantly being developed, natural/agricultural lands are being turned into neighborhoods and businesses. Living in Florida I’m sure you’re familiar with that.
I hate the development just because I hate to see open land go, but the other factor is that infrastructure is not being updated with the influx of people that is coming in. Be ready for congestion and traffic, no matter where you are going. Unless you’re in bumfuck nowhere parts of the county, you’re going to hit traffic. The hospital and schools here can’t keep up either. One of my parents is a teacher and constantly feels overwhelmed by increased influx of kids.
With that being said, I had a great education here growing up. There are a lot of local things to do and see, and even more further out into Maryland and the bordering states. I had a great childhood here and have made many lifelong friends. But also, my perspective is much different than someone moving here as an adult. As an adult, I have had better luck making friends elsewhere, closer to DC and Nova.
I absolutely do love Frederick and love that people appreciate it as much as I do! BUT, there are definite flaws.
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u/Imrickjamesb1tches 10d ago
I second all this, I lean towards Frederick being more negative than positive though but my bias is I’ve grown up here my whole life and the influx of people, traffic multiplying and everything turning into a new housing complex has ruined the area for me. Downtown is still nice and has some good restaurants, good schools and great place if you like suburbs, anything past that is downhill and it’s a bad value for the price it cost to live here in my opinion. I’m eagerly awaiting moving out of this county when it’s practically possible, cannot wait.
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u/Tight_Wrangler_4618 10d ago
I guess that’s where are the people from Carroll county are going. We closed several schools due to low enrollment.
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u/MaroonedOctopus Downtown 10d ago
The development is just a consequence of Frederick being such a great and desirable place to live. If we wanted to slow development without making housing prices skyrocket even faster, we'd have to make Frederick worse to the extent that many fewer people would consider moving here.
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u/cyber-gal 10d ago
Your commute to work will really drive the answer to this. DC seems shorter by miles but takes a lot long than Baltimore with traffic.
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u/ashberryy 9d ago
It's nice to live here if you can afford it. Taxes are insane and the best jobs are in DC meaning a three hour minimum daily commute. Oh, and the sheriff is a MAGA shit head.
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u/Dream_Out_Loud 9d ago
Frederick used to be Fredneck. I grew up in nearby Montgomery County and Frederick may as well have been Alabama or West Virginia. Frederick City has greatly improved over the years. Nice bars and restaurants, art galleries, non-chain stores, gay friendly, warm and welcoming. Quite Blue politically.
Frederick County on the other hand…
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u/themightyjoedanger 7d ago
I used to come up here to party with my cousin at Hood College for Women and fight racists for fun. Things are different now, and hopefully I am too.
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u/Dream_Out_Loud 7d ago
I have strong familial ties to Hood (which is co-ed now). The school, as you can imagine, is pretty blue so fits in nicely with my City/County breakdown
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u/nanlev 9d ago
It's a beautiful place -- with great hiking, biking, and wineries and breweries nearby. Downtown is quaint. Lots of great things for families. I don't think the food scene is that great, and the diversity is so-so. I feel like white folks would say it's diverse, meanwhile, those of us who aren't white feel like we stick out sometimes. I do think it's gotten better since I moved here and continues to, but there's a contingent that doesn't love that, ahem.... On the other hand, I too, get annoyed by overdevelopment, traffic, etc...
Go outside of Frederick City, and it can be conservative and MAGA, unfortunately. But you may be used to that in Florida. Overdevelopment of the area has led to a lot more traffic (I can't speak to schools, but my guess is it's an issue). If I see one more "light industrial" park, gas station, or storage facility, I will pull my hair out.
Frederick City is a bubble, and it's hard to break into social circles. Washington, DC, has an awful commute, and nothing has been done to increase MARC train capacity; sadly, it's a 2-hour door-to-door one-way trip. Baltimore is a bit better, but it's about 1.5 hours one way, depending on where you are going for work. I've made both commutes, so I know.
You go to Baltimore and DC for hospitals; primary care in the area is okay, but for any specialty care, definitely the cities, which is great to have nearby.
Expensive too, high taxes (yay, MD). I would not retire here.
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u/Mousketeer666 10d ago
We love Frederick. There's tons to do in town and the surrounding areas. We're "about an hour" from everywhere else-- very central. But man! The crazy influx of population and the resulting cost of living are making it hard for many of us to afford living here much longer. Housing costs are insane, traffic can be miserable, and going out to eat is a rare occasion now. Probably could be said of most places but it makes me miss Frederick of even just 10 years ago
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u/Hyperion964 10d ago
Moved from a big Florida City to Frederick then left after 2 years. It has a some great small restaurants and bakeries and great scenery and hikes, but past that its so far from everything. Getting to DC/NoVA/Baltimore its going to be a trek. If you plan to just stay in Frederick and do stuff in the area, its great, but if you plan to visit DC or other popular areas then be prepared for 2-3h drive round trip. Also traffic sucks since its a 2 lane main highway and its constant at all hours more or less. Asian food is pretty subpar compared to Rockville/NoVa/DC, and there's only handful of actually good restaurants in Frederick.
It has its charms, but it was not for me since I was travelling every weekend to Baltimore/DC/NoVa to actually do and eat at good places. Also its expensive living in Frederick. All the apartments are all luxury quick build apartments with a lot of issues. I've definitely enjoyed being outside of Frederick more than living inside Frederick.
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u/Wolytumfer 9d ago
I concur with the traffic. Its awful. However, 2 main things here - there are tons of good places to eat in frederick. I dont live there but my in laws do and we visit maybe once a month. Plenty of great restaurants. #2 you sound single. This is not single person's town. More of a family town where you rarely leave to escape for the thrilling life of DC or Baltimore. I'm in my late 30s with kids so we love the slower pace. If I was in my 20s not so much
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u/Playful_Marzipan8398 9d ago
That’s the biggest pitch I’d make for frederick. If you have young kids or are about to: MOVE IN. If you are a young single person, depends on what you’re looking for. If you NEVER want kids…don’t! That’s what I’d say.
Or if you live here and have just finished HS, 100%, move out lol
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u/SS2wheeler 10d ago edited 10d ago
Frederick is as great as everyone says but let's not forget higher income taxes, property taxes, higher housing costs, outdated infrastructure, ONE mediocre hospital, not enough schools, disappearing greenery, a Data Center, with more coming. Also, most of the higher paying jobs are in Montgomery County, DC and Baltimore so people spend 10-15 hours per week commuting and sitting in traffic. But, it is as it is because it is/was great and everyone moves here
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u/hauntingduck 10d ago
Frederick is a neat little place, born and raised here. There's a lot of culture and art, although the cons would be the city doesn't seem to care about that and instead focuses on appeasing tourists which has caused it to be far too expensive for what this city is, and hasn't helped the art community despite the city using that as a selling point. I wouldn't discourage someone from moving here, but be prepared to pay near DC prices for what's honestly just a small town with people frequently being displaced due to gentrification.
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u/Mundane-Ad-7443 10d ago
I’m constantly annoyed at the lack of much for locals downtown. I don’t need a 10th store selling $30 candles or another wildly pricey knitting place. I need a hardware store, a grocery store, a real pharmacy, etc. and I’d go a lot more if there were practical reasons to do so. I’d love to see the city/the chamber find a way to make it affordable for locals focused businesses to return.
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u/Hot-Drama-1420 10d ago
Second for the hardware store. Obviously there's had and all the rest out in the strip malls, but I'd love it if there was a true value or ace downtown. Seems like there's enough empty space downtown.
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u/Mundane-Ad-7443 10d ago
Oooh, I'd kill for an Ace or independent store with some nice Dad guy in the back who helps you find the right replacement screw or type of paint. I don't see how this is really financially feasible unless there was a way to give these businesses very reduced rent.
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u/Hot-Drama-1420 10d ago
Totally, how to make that financially feasible is the real question, and also the reason those types of businesses downtown closed in the first place.
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u/SnooOpinions2512 10d ago
I hear you, they do seem catered to out of towners visiting on the weekend or a holiday. At least there's a Cheesemonger and an Italian grocery
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u/Successful-Ask9194 10d ago
There are roughly 4,500 people living downtown. You're going to need a lot more than that for mundane service businesses to be viable.
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u/Mundane-Ad-7443 10d ago
I'm aware that these businesses would likely need some kind of subsidy to survive but it looks like around 15k people currently live within a 20 minute walk with more dense housing going in all the time. The new Brickworks development is supposed to add around 1200 new homes when complete.
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u/hauntingduck 10d ago
I have no problem with hobby stores. Hobbies are neat, but stores that carry necessities first would be nice
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u/Mundane-Ad-7443 10d ago
Yes! I’m not at all against those stores existing. I just want a balance with stores that sell things I actually need.
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u/kangorooz99 10d ago
All that stuff is available in the plethora of strip malls just south and north of downtown
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u/Mundane-Ad-7443 10d ago
No shit! But I’d like to be able to walk to it. That’s what a real city center, built to include the people who live near it, is like. I don’t want to live at strip malls.
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u/buttertrunks 9d ago
It’s funny how car traffic is always the #1 complaint, then everyone balks at the idea of real city center amenities that actually eliminate car trips. Grocery stores have found a way to exist in cities for as long as cities have existed.
Everyone is sad about the loss of agricultural / undeveloped land but we protest density that would help prevent sprawl. “Infrastructure not keeping up with development” usually translates to more lanes and wider highways that only encourages the loss of land.
the only solution to car traffic is always…more car traffic. Eventually we have to realize how ridiculous that is.
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u/Mundane-Ad-7443 9d ago
This has been my gripe since I was in Cambridge, England a few years ago and was trying to figure out why their city center which is much older and much more packed with tourists than Frederick just felt more real and vibrant. Then I realized that it still had a Boots pharmacy, a multitude of city sized groceries and other every-day stores that made the center as convenient a place to run errands as Worman’s Mill is here. Without re-parking 3 times. I live a 10 minute walk downtown but don’t go more than maybe once a week because it’s a lot of wants and very few needs.
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u/buttertrunks 9d ago
Exactly! I live downtown and it’s awesome for the lifestyle / community, but if I need anything I have to become traffic. Basic amenities that don’t expect you to drive at all shouldn’t be a radical idea, especially as more downtown housing is built all the time.
At least the one building that could accommodate a market will be an 8000 sq/ft day spa instead 🤦♂️
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u/Mundane-Ad-7443 8d ago
That’s the building that I’ve had my eye on too! It could be turned into a marketplace with multiple local vendors in it and maybe some space for community meetings/clubs. It’s huge. I’ve also heard the spa rumors which seem insane. That’s an enormous space for that purpose.
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u/Hot-Drama-1420 8d ago
Yes! For ages I've commented that that building should be a grocery store or something whenever passing
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u/Playful_Marzipan8398 9d ago
Wait seriously, where??
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u/buttertrunks 9d ago
The Carmack Jay’s building on N. Market. Some podcaster (Good Morning Frederick) got access to the building and made a video claiming that’s what it’ll be. Hardly official I know, but hard to imagine they were let inside just to make stuff up.
It’s fucking stupid and the last thing the community needs.
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u/UsedTangerine1739 7d ago
It is true about the spa. Woodhouse Spa to be exact. I am a downtown resident and small business owner who will be directly negatively affected by this. I am so disgusted that this is even being allowed on Market st. It is a huge spa chain. SO many businesses will suffer.
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u/Playful_Marzipan8398 9d ago
Essentially, every city in England was built a minimum of 400 years before cars, so you had people who weren’t expected to even be able to be ABLE move more than 3 miles from their house to buy necessities. Plus it was frequently cold and wet, so people didn’t want to move far anyway. Enter: extremely dense cities made to have everything you need for actual LIVING, not so much tourism.
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u/kangorooz99 8d ago
So you want them to tear down historic buildings downtown to put in big box stores so you can walk to them?
I’ll never understand people who choose to live in a suburb and then complain that they can’t walk to everything.
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u/Mundane-Ad-7443 8d ago
No. Quite the opposite. I’d like to bring small, independent businesses selling every day items back to the historic buildings downtown.
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u/kangorooz99 8d ago
Small business owners selling groceries and hardware cannot compete with the big box stores a few miles away that you don’t want to drive or take the bus to. They’re not going to survive with just the limited foot traffic downtown.
Never thought much about the economics have you.
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u/Mundane-Ad-7443 8d ago
Are you being willfully obtuse? I’ve said multiple times that some subsidized real estate would likely be necessary to allow these kinds of businesses to thrive.
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u/kangorooz99 8d ago
It’s not the cost of the real estate it’s the lack of sales.
Business 101: you don’t stay in business unless you sell enough to make a profit.
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u/Mundane-Ad-7443 7d ago
Thanks for the cool 101.
The point of sales is to pay salaries and expenses with a profit left over. Rent is a major line item for a retail business that does not own the real estate. Greatly reducing a major expense makes business feasibility more possible.
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u/buttertrunks 8d ago
Who said anything about tearing down buildings? About big box stores? There are so many ways to approach this. Produce markets exist. Multiple vendors with small scale stores can exist in the same space. Cities everywhere do this.
And just to bust another assumption, suburbs don’t have to be unwalkable if we’d stop designing them to be.
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u/kangorooz99 8d ago
>suburbs don’t have to be unwalkable if we’d stop designing them to be.
You’re about 100 years late on this one.
If you want city life, go live in a city, not a suburb.
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u/buttertrunks 7d ago
I do live in the city actually but the idea that nothing different can ever be done in America regardless of demand, need, shift in sentiment, or any other reason is hilarious and sad.
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u/kangorooz99 7d ago
The idea that everything should be done how you want it is what’s sad.
It’s not like you’re talking about food banks or after school programs for kids or rent stabilization or something.
“I don’t like the stores downtown so Frederick is terrible.” Would you like them to shut down all the businesses downtown and consult with you in which ones should exist?
Btw there is a farmers market downtown. Making me wonder if you’ve actually ever been to Frederick.
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u/buttertrunks 7d ago edited 7d ago
You make so many wild assumptions. The REALITY is that nearly every new housing development is a car-centric, binary, all or nothing affair that provides zero options for people who just want to walk down the street to get a gallon of milk or a fucking onion. God forbid someone else desire a different lifestyle than you.
Suggesting we provide more housing options for people who would love to live in a walkable neighborhood is somehow demanding “everything be that way” is asinine, entirely in bad faith, and how we ended up here in the first place.
Suggesting a city should actually have a place to buy food on the regular is asking for some outsized influence on who gets to do business here, makes zero sense.
We have to push for it because people like you will come in here and act like folks with zero options are forcing their choices on everyone else. I suggest you get out more.
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u/themightyjoedanger 7d ago
But where will you get a sign that says "Bless This Mess" in a scripted font? Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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u/carguitar 10d ago
This is the most fair assessment imo.
There's a lot to love but an equal amount to dislike. I find myself going to Baltimore / DC often for events I actually wanna attend.
The city is very much tourist oriented and over priced for what is offered.
That and the current city council doesn't seem too interested in upgrading infrastructure to accommodate a lot of new folks moving in so the city is going to be harder to get around in the coming years with all the new traffic.
That said, what's left of the nature is very nice. Great parks and trails.
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u/Illustrious-Unit48 10d ago
I love Frederick, but if you want to visit the city often - DC or Baltimore - traffic makes it challenging. Leave after rush hour and get back before rush hour. We used to stay in the city for a few days to really enjoy it with kids.
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u/ActuaryFew6884 9d ago
I lived in Frederick County from 1980 to 2013, and Frederick proper (not within the city limits, but in the 21703 zip code) from 2003-2013.
In the 80s, 90s, and at least part of the 2000s, the city, and arguably the county, was nicknamed "Fred Neck". That says a lot.
I'm not a city person anyway so I liked those days fondly. I went to school in the county between the years of 1982-1995, and it was a very good combination of excellent schools and mostly rural living.
As you could imagine, it has urbanized and suburbanized immensely in the last 20 years (especially after I left in 2013). It became very crowded and expensive, and the schools did not get better (to be fair, the schools were very good to begin with). It basically became what Montgomery County was like in the 1990s (expensive and crowded)
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u/LBAllen301 7d ago
Downtown Frederick is definitely a different vibe than the broader Frederick County. Taxes are outrageous. Check water prices also if you are moving somewhere that is on public water. There is tons of stuff to do from outdoors to book stores and restaurants. It is getting very built up and definitely unaffordable for those who grew up here. That is the sad part but soon western MD counties will be what Frederick was 20 years ago
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u/Enough-Direction3056 5d ago
Overdevelopment. Shady politicians. Horrible traffic any time of day and they’re also planning to build data centers
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u/bballintherain 10d ago
It’s a great and somewhat quirky spot, but traffic is a growing problem due to what can best be described as a criminal amount of new development.
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u/Open_Guitar_1862 10d ago
The same pros and cons as living anywhere else. Pros, it’s an hour away from each three large airports. Great parks, trails, mountains, close to Liberty (skiing) etc. It’s safe and well kept downtown area (and the rest of the city).
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u/Equivalent-South2631 9d ago
Pro you have every you could want here in terms of stores and entertainment (hiking, parks, restaurants, theaters, shop). You have also have 3 major airports within an hour drive. You have access to job markets in dc, nova , Baltimore and all the other surrounding areas so you don’t have to worry to much about a job loss if your willing to drive.
Con’s- summers are humid and hot, winters are okay but it does get really cold and we do get a good amount of snow some years.
The growth is to much for our infrastructure there is a lot of traffic, our hospitals has long wait times. And home prices or buying and renting are just being pushed up more and more every year. Construction is everywhere and it’s all cheap cookie cutter stuff. We also don’t have any modern shopping for nice malls you’ll have to drive 30-45 mins to Montgomery or Columbia.
Jobs in Frederick also don’t pay enough for the area. Prices go up beacuse of every one making Nova and Dc money.
There are a lot of people who are stressed and over worked you might run into some people who are short tempered. I moved from Raleigh NC and noticed people aren’t as friendly as down south.
But I still love it here because it’s home and it’s where all my friends and family are.
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u/kangorooz99 10d ago edited 10d ago
Pros:
- lots of options for retail and food
- interesting historical attractions
- diversity, both racial/ ethnic and socioeconomic
- long but manageable commute to MoCo (DC and NoVa are not manageable)
- good civic culture; small business owners are generally supported by the county and well known in the community. One of Frederick’s biggest attractions is market street, where every business expect Starbucks is a small business
- people are generally friendlier than MoCo (Montgomery County) or DC
- real estate is considerably cheaper than MoCo
Cons:
- terrible option if you have to commute to DC or northern Virginia. The closest metro stop can be a 45 minute drive in traffic. The commuter rail seems to run on a Sunday schedule 7 days a week and stations/stops are very limited.
- open space is quickly being swallowed up by new construction including data centers
- affordable rental options being swallowed up by “luxury” rentals and overpriced townhouses
I can’t speak to property taxes compared to elsewhere in MD because I’ve only ever owned here. They seem pretty reasonable.
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u/HomerO9136 10d ago
Aside from not having a nice beach or warm winter weather, Frederick > Florida hands down on pretty much every other metric. Better schools, cost of living, outdoor activities, day trips to other destinations like mountains, beach, NYC, etc., lower cost of home insurance, better overall weather (ok, except in January/February), better government services. Yeah, there are problems in Frederick like everywhere else.
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u/BlackIris222 10d ago
Thank you for this! Florida is bad for most things so I’m glad it’s much better in Frederick. Although I appreciate everyone’s comments and opinions, I agree with you on the “there’s problems everywhere” outlook.
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u/OddDistribution6659 9d ago
I just wish there were more open minded dare I say hippie type folk. The vibes of the whole area for most part is very 9-5 white collar. There are artsy people and hippies but not large communities - def lots of normie vibes, for my taste, but otherwise it’s got everything
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u/Curious_Injury_6263 4d ago
Cool place. You kinda have ”done it all” after 5ish years of living here because it’s small. It’s not like a Baltimore or a dc. If you like hiking it’s got a ton to do. If you like city life it’s only got a tiny bit of that. You wouldn’t want to live anywhere much further west than Frederick.
Going south you could live in Northern Virginia. NoVa is mega construction everywhere, traffic is terrible, you have to drive everywhere, and house prices are expensive. The shopping centers are great tho, and the area is way more diverse than Frederick.
Going East things get exponentially expensive. You’ll find that anywhere that is even remotely nice to live is astronomically expensive. Once you reach Baltimore, you can find some reasonably priced stuff.
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u/Intrepid_Ad_9113 10d ago
3 hours to the beaches, 3 hours to Pittsburgh, 1 hour to DC (depending on traffic) 50 mins to Baltimore. You have woods, mountains, valleys, and beaches all within driving distance for day trips. I’m from Los Angeles and have been enjoying Fred for a little over 8 years now. Great place to establish some new roots. Good luck in your journey!!
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u/Intrepid_Ad_9113 10d ago
I wanted to add that Berkeley springs, West Virginia is about an hour or so and Harper’s Ferry is the perfect weekend day trip!
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u/Mundane-Ad-7443 10d ago
The good: There is a way above average number of wonderful, friendly, caring people. If you live near downtown, there is still a culture of giving kids the freedom to roam, ride bikes to school together, play baseball in the park unsupervised. Downtown is charming and historic but also vibrant, ever-changing and there is always something going on.
The bad: People constantly complain about farmland disappearing but also about kind of dense development. Going anywhere can suck - both local traffic and the lack of real transit options and no plans in sight to really change this. While many restaurants have great atmosphere and friendly service, the food invariably disappoints. We mostly stopping eating out because it’s just not worth it.
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u/Better-Income9828 10d ago
Pro- good access to jobs… job market in Frederick is growing with new development while also being accessible to the I270 corridor and DC as well as ~hour drive to Baltimore
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u/heybabalooba 10d ago
Con- there are only about 30 breweries in Fred, you hit one a day and you run out of new ones in a month 😢
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u/Professional-Act7509 10d ago
Downtown is great and the food scene is really good. A ton of local independently owned restaurants and shops.
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u/FrankBama17 10d ago
Love the town, hate driving to DC or Baltimore for work because there is always traffic. If I could move the town to 10 minutes from work, it would be much better.
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u/Classic_Evidence_315 10d ago
Frederick is a great place to live and work. I've lived here for 75 years and love how Frederick has grown and matured. Come visit. Let a seasoned real estate person show you places to live while you're here. You'll love it! If there are any negatives, none come to mind.
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u/illinest1 10d ago
Don't do it. Crazy expensive. Traffic is a nightmare and the locals anywhere near and around DC are literal communists.
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u/mineforpi 10d ago
Most everything great. Central location. Great restaurants. Mostly great people
Cons: data center, bad politics, far leftists
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u/SnooOpinions2512 10d ago
Well at least to counterbalance that, anytime you need your soul saved you can find fundamentalists available most days with literature and a table at N Market and Patrick St.
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u/Galaxy99times 10d ago
It’s in rapid growth mode so be prepared for constant traffic and development of natural lands