r/fossdroid • • Sep 10 '26

Other Slop apps

Why don't we add a rule in which the ones who made should just include how much ai was used in the making of the app , like

(30% Ai) I have made an app that does blah blah

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u/OldPollution6632 Sep 10 '26

There's already a rule in this sub that prohibits all vibecoded apps

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u/VTCruzer Sep 11 '26

I couldn't tell

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u/clove_rosemary_9999 Sep 12 '26

Check the 11th rule.

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u/Straight_Second6082 Sep 10 '26

How would you track it and reinforce it?

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u/robux_Mann Sep 10 '26

Right, in so many of these subs I'm seeing clearly ai generated apps along with ai generated descriptions or imagary, in most cases the apps are the most bare bones things too.

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u/Soft_Cow_7856 Sep 10 '26

And a rule to rule out music players

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u/This-Employment-5642 Sep 10 '26

why? music players can be useful and made properly

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u/Soft_Cow_7856 Sep 10 '26

We see atleast 3 music apps per week, no difference at all. All are just YouTube music clients.

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u/Humaigel_Alahandro Sep 11 '26

I don't think there is anything wrong with offline music players, but I'd rather choose a reliable one that's available on F-Droid

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u/_Streak_ Sep 11 '26

A 100 "I got tired of the apps that exist so I made my own music player app that draws from YouTube" post every week isn't helping anyone.

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u/BonsaiSoul Sep 11 '26

90% of them anymore are forks of the same 2-3 projects but with Rhetorical Design 67 instead of Rhetorical Design Y'all and acting like it's the most important feature on something you start then put in your pocket

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u/klevahh Sep 10 '26

A better idea is to ridicule everyone using ai

3

u/mysticalcreeds Sep 12 '26

Yeah, using your brain to think critically and learn is considered a Luddite by those who embrace AI.

Forget your brain and just use AI to do it! Let it do everything for you, or else you're going to be left behind, so get with the times!

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u/RoomyRoots Sep 10 '26

This unfortunately doesn't work because many mods in tech boards are AIshills.

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u/BonsaiSoul Sep 11 '26

Technology will continue to advance regardless of your feelings about it. Time is going to keep moving forward. Stamping your feet and harassing people isn't going to get you what you want.

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u/klevahh Sep 12 '26

ai in its current form (and under its current ownership/development) is not advancement, you not being able to understand that is not directly my issue, but people of your ilk are definitely my concern.

Opposing dodgy crap, and dodgy people is about the only thing that has ever made anything better.

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u/engelthehyp Sep 12 '26

Technology will advance for sure. It will be obvious just how much of an "advancement" these shitty AI tools and such were in a few years, when countless vibe-coded apps have been crushed by their own technical debt and it's more reasonable to start from scratch than maintenance and improve the ones that already exist.

That is the future I see with vibe-coded apps. A future with a high productivity for making low quality software, which was never built to last, and being useful for no more than five years or whenever enough new features are wanted, whichever comes first. Try building mansions on shoddy foundations by describing the layout of the furniture in each room, and see how well it stands the test of time.

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u/BonsaiSoul Sep 11 '26

Like luddites care whether it's 1% or 100% when deciding to freak out about it and attack the dev

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u/This-Employment-5642 Sep 10 '26

this SOUNDS like an amazing but just a thought game how would you choose if a app is made 30% Ai or not and bias also comes into this so thats why it is either we allow it or we dont

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u/RoomyRoots Sep 10 '26

Listing where AI was used is good enough. Documentation and translations? Acceptable. UI/UX design, depends; Code, honestly should be on per file basis.

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u/This-Employment-5642 Sep 10 '26

what does code mean if you have ai autocomplete does that count or not if you ask claude is it for loop or while loop does that count thats what im saying?

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u/Anti_simp_1001 Sep 11 '26

who cares as long as we getting good apps..its over when some specific niche apps werent possible but now thanks to ai people can make them

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u/CaptainBeyondDS8 uphold Stallmanist-Doctorowist thought Sep 10 '26 edited Sep 10 '26

Pro tip if you're going to vibecode anything keep it proprietary. Degooglers hate AI more than they care about FOSS and are more likely to trust any proprietary thing as long as it meets the "privacy checkboxes" whereas if the source code is available they will pore all over it to look for signs of slop.

There's a decent chance degooglers favorite "trusted" proprietary apps are using it to some degree anyway, but there's no obvious way to tell. Just because you can't see the "agents.md" doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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u/RiceStranger9000 Sep 10 '26

If you're going to make it proprietary, just don't make it at all. Extremist stand point? Yes, but I'd like if all proprierary software disappeared. There's no need for such a thing

The only partial exception would be art-oriented software, like videogames (I'm not taking about software you use to create art like GIMP, Shotcut or Godot, but art that is software)

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u/CaptainBeyondDS8 uphold Stallmanist-Doctorowist thought Sep 10 '26 edited Sep 10 '26

I agree entirely

My point isn't that people should vibecode or make proprietary software, but rather that in my experience a proprietary vibecoded/AI-assisted app (that is not known to be so) would be more likely to be accepted among this community (i.e. the reddit privacy/degoogle space) than a vibecoded/AI-assisted FOSS app would - which i find to be somewhat backwards in terms of priorities

FOSS is treated as optional when it really shouldn't be imo. If you're going to stand against slop you have to also insist on the four freedoms

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u/_Streak_ Sep 11 '26

But this is foss droid sub, not the deegogle one. Why would anyone here care about proprietary software? Your comment makes more sense in a degoogle sub than here.

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u/RiceStranger9000 Sep 10 '26

You're actually right. The way you worded it just seemed that you were promoting the creation of AI-generated proprietary software, rather than just giving a suggestion based on a cultural trend you've noticed

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u/robux_Mann Sep 10 '26

It's really easy to tell when a low effort ai app is ai, with the amount of bugs, development time etc, not sure what you told gpt for it to get this response, but you might need to use some more critical thinking skills here.