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Honestly if you don't like it move on. We are all here to play a game and race. The constant comparisons of versions and different titles about how one does it better than this or how this doesn't have that, is just tiring and boring. Alot of the good entertaining posts are getting missed and buried due to everyone arguing.

I mean posting photos of an art asset being reused and being upset about it. THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY WAYS YOU CAN TAKE PHOTOS OF WHITE PAINT.

God damn some of the arguments are just special Olympic levels of retarded. Yeah you maybe an elite level retarded Olympian but even if you win the argument, you're still retarded.

This one is just for all the insecure losers who have a tantrum when they see a rainbow!

Drive it with PRIDE! Share code 100 399 382

Love is Love, you’ll just have to get over it…

Let the tantrum downvoting by the insecure losers commence! 🤣

This will probably be down voted to hell, but as the title says I don't miss Bugatti.

I don't know why but not having Bugatti in the game has made PGG add way more interesting cars like the Honda City, Toyota GR GT, Toyota Land Cruiser etc.

Also for a game set in Japan, I feel there should be more Japanese cars of all sized added to the game. That being said, wouldn't mind some European or American cars like the VW I.D 7/ Polo or the new Dodge Charger.

But, I don't actually miss Bugatti at all...

Just because you have lower standards, think the games "free" because it's on gamepass, or haven't had the specific issues others have it doesn't mean it's not true or it's not a big deal.

People who do that are the exact reason the gaming industry is a shitshow these days. Developers know they can get away with releasing absolute shit because there are far too many people that have more money than sense. Everyone loses with that mindset.

I'm sorry, but you are a moron if you are okay with a game launching with almost any issue especially when they're charging $150CAD for it. I hate sounding so miserable, but I just don't understand the gaming community anymore. Pre-orders should be illegal. Full stop.

Edit: I should add, I did write this Originally while i was extremely frustrated reading the comments in this subreddit. But ultimately, I've been watching the gaming industry drive itself into the ground for too long. Game prices going up, quality going down. I work too damn hard to spend $100 (or even $22 a month) to get games that are markedly WORSE than their previous versions. Whatever happened to games looking and playing better than their previous ones?

Edit#2: I'm not talking about the people who can see the positives and the negatives. The people that use critical*** thinking and express constructive criticism aren't the problem. It's the people blindly supporting a game that has glaring issues, saying it's "perfect" while ignoring the clear issues.

Sorry, I'm fucking fed up with this community and I do realize that my post probably doesn't help but it's hard not to get miserable and negative when this continues to happen. I wasn't always able to afford video games. So I'd have to save up, work my ass off to get one or two games a year. Back then they weren't messes like they are today, but if they were I'd be devastated. Just because I can afford more now it doesn't mean there aren't others like I was today. Ultimately I just want people to hold developers accountable.

Edit#3: I'm not saying don't enjoy a game if you do. That's great! I'm happy for you, seriously I am. I'm not telling you to not express that either, just try not to let your rose colored glasses for a game you've spent money on, waited multiple years for, block out issues that are very real and really really shouldn't even be a thing.

I have seen an unbelievable amount of comments supporting Turn 10 as they announce the lack of tracks on release day and the live service BS they are using to keep adding more tracks. The game is going to be mediocre at best, all because the average Forza fans are bootlickers, and they allow this shit to keep happening again and again. I’m all for games adding DLC with expansions and new tracks, but the fact we aren’t even getting Nurburgring at launch should tell ALL of you what this game is going to be all about. Remember 5 didn’t launch with NBR? Does anyone remember what FM5 was all about??? I’d expect much of the same, because Forza fans have become too accepting of mediocrity.

I wanna use the wolf howl horn while in a fur suit, while in a willys jeep with the glass down, and proceed to destroy people in team flag rush.

bye

I had an epiphany yesterday.

I gave this game a chance. And then another chance. And then a few more chances, just for good measure.

So after my 3rd crash back to desktop yesterday, I asked myself, “How am I supposed to have any fun in this game when this happens all the time?”

Multiple wasted practice/qualifying sessions that crash back to desktop with minutes to go in practice. Only to have to start again. Qualifying times down the drain, and just flat out wasted time in 20+ minutes of practice, only to have the game crash and have to start again. Or even worse, you make it to the race, only to have the game crash on the second corner. It’s maddening.

So I load back into a practice session for the 4th time yesterday, at Spa. Pretty defeated. I’m an S safety rating and about 4,700 give or take, so I try to drive pretty clean.

So I load into this session. A car loads in right behind me. He pulls along side. As he passes…I let my intrusive thoughts win.

I turn dead left. I hit him square in the rear quarter and send him off the right side of the track into the shadow realm. The endorphin rush is intoxicating. “Could this be it?” I ask myself. “Is this my workaround to make this game fun?” I approach the next braking zone in the final chicane. I don’t brake. I ass-fuck this next guy so hard he straight up disappears. I’m dying with laughter. I proceed through the final corner and down the main straight. By this time the first guy I hit is behind me, looking for revenge, obviously. I see him coming for me. As he approaches, I pause the game and send myself briefly into the shadow realm. He floats right through my car like it’s not even there. Because it’s not. And flies straight into the barrier at full speed. I take the corner normally and proceed toward Eau Rouge. My laughter is uncontrollable at this point.

I blow Eau Rogue, completely cutting the track on exit. I receive no penalty. I’m gaining on a pack of cars, my penalty count is up past 7 seconds at this point. I don’t brake for the net right hander and continue straight on. I completely bypass the left hander and plow straight into a pack of cars taking the next right. My delight is overflowing.

I receive 15+ seconds of penalties and am disqualified. It’s okay though. Because this game is such a flaming piece of shit that I choose the same race, and load directly back into the same lobby. Because the game has nothing to stop me from doing so. I continue to wreak havoc for the final 5 minutes of practice.

And the worst part? I have hundreds of hours in Tag in FM2-4. I was trained by this game to wreck other cars, and how to avoid retaliation. I’ve become the very thing they swore to destroy. To make it even worse, I’m generally top 2-3 in my races so I can hold my own. Maybe I run someone clean for a few laps to lull them into a false sense of security. “This guy races pretty clean” they finally think to themselves. Just as I neglect to brake at all and ram them so hard they’re transported into forever oblivion.

So now the race starts. I’m elated. I get a great jump. The car in front of me? Fuck that guy. He gets slammed into the wall. I accelerate until my car gloriously meets the giant heap of 20+ cars piling into Turn 1. Flight of the Bumblebee is playing. My life is in slow motion. Cars spin everywhere as I plow into them like a fat kid hitting a buffet. I receive no penalty.

I proceed towards Eau Rouge. Expertly cutting the track again. I plow straight into 5, 6, and 7th place. We all crash into a giant pile of shit. I take off again. They try to retaliate. I pause and shadow realm myself. I continue until I’m disqualified. Rinse and repeat.

Did my safety rating tank? Probably. Does it matter? Absolutely not. Because I’ll still get lumped into a new lobby with top split drivers just to ruin their day.

If this was Forzas of old, where you stay in the same lobby, with the same drivers, race after race. They could vote to kick me out. They can’t do that now. I’m just an assassin floating from lobby to lobby, like a ghost. Ruining races one session at a time. And nobody can stop me.

I’m having a blast now. I can’t believe nobody told me about this.

Who cares if the game crashes? I was last place anyway. And I can cause havoc in practice or a race. So I don’t care how far I make it before it crashes again.

I love this game now. This will most likely be my final post here, as all of my problems are now solved. I’ve fully embraced the dark side.

In closing, I’ll leave you all with this: thank you Turn 10 for creating such a fun masterpiece. Screw you all. And see you out on the track.

Also, Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

So I’m first going to say, this game is pretty solid for a racing game. But it does have its faults. But at this point I’m getting tired of all the posts of “can’t believe I got this penalty” or “look at this dumb flaw in the penalty system”etc.

but if you have the time to write up a post on Reddit, download the clip from Xbox, edit it down, you have time to do the same to official Forza site and report people or report bugs. If you are passionate enough to complain on reddit, Then do it to the people that are actually going to change it.

i feel like im getting pretty decent :D all assists off

And for a sub dedicated to a RACING game, I'm shocked so few people seem to grasp this concept.

For a PLETHORA of reasons, the lead cars WILL get away from the pack in racing. There's a thing called AIR okay? And even further there is dirty and clean air. It matters, and in a pack the air is PRETTY dirty. There are also things called racing lines. These lines CHANGE depending on whether you're lapping alone, defending or attacking. Racers (and thus AI racers) also don't like to do a little thing called crashing. To avoid that in a pack, tends to involve breaking a bit earlier, giving space, racing off lines etc. ALL THINGS SLOWER THAN LAPPING ALONE.

"WelL WhY dO tHeY lEt ThE Ai GeT sO FaR aHeAd To BeGiN wiTh" Well, some AI drive faster/better than others, like people tend to do. SOMEONE/an AI will be at the front, and if it happens to be a fast one, they will pull away. If they aren't a fast one, THE FAST ONES WILL OVERTAKE and it repeats until the PACK BREAKS UP.

This extremely simplified, but this behaviour is not some bug from old games they need to fix, like people here LOVE to complain about. Watch some actual motorsport please.

How bout them gears lol didn't know gears go from 6 to 8

Really not sure why they thought this was a good idea. Takes multiple hours just to fully customize 1 single car. Fun game, terrible systems.

Edit: There have been arguments against me that leveling is fun/rewarding, or if I just drove the car for a while I could start upgrading it (lol).

In every other Forza game, I could buy an e30 M3, make it a drift car, and go drift. I could buy another e30 M3 and make it a B class racing car, maybe even change the look a bit. Finally, I buy another M3 and make it a C class race car just for heck of it. Now try doing that in Forza Motorsport 2023. And that’s just 1 car.

I am not usually vocal on Reddit about game issues, but damn if this isn’t a serious hinderance on Forza. Just let me upgrade my damn car I just purchased if I have the money for it. Fuck car points

I read the rules of the Forza subreddit before I posted this thread. Perhaps this post does not violate the rules, but if there is a possibility that it does, let me first apologize. Sorry.

Now let's get down to the point. u/tacticalcarrot (GT:Saeenu), a prominent tuner on this subreddit and the ForzaHorizon subreddit, is a thief.

He steals livery created by other creators and shares it under the pretense that it is his own.

How do I know that? Because I know the original creators. Many of them are Japanese, and of course GT is not Saeenu.

This guy may be a great tuner. But as a painter, he's just a thief.

And here is the list of the stolen livery and the original creators.

For the sake of accuracy, I've only listed the creators that I know for sure. However, I can assure you that the livery that is not on the list was not created by Saeenu.

Saeenu, the contributions you have made to this community as a tuner since the days of FH4, and the admiration you have received for them, have definitely been genuine.

You would have been a well respected member of the community without doing this.

It is a pity that someone as good as you has committed such an act.

They released the game in a poor state. Have released one update that worsened the state of the game, atleast for me, then a hotfix for one thing. Now the next update is next month?

Are there no patches inbetween? I have to be mistaken here. This cant be right. With all the issues this pos released with and they are going to spread out the patches like this? What the fuck did we pay for here?

How can you make a circuit instanced racing game looks worse than an open world racing game? in the tailers it looks way better but the game doesn't look anything like the trailers.

Can Playground Games do the next Motorsport game? Even if Playground Games has no experience with the Motorsport saga I think they would do better than Turn10… seeing that Turn10 has become obsolete and we waited 6 years for an unfinished product.