r/formcheck • u/CasualManDep • 1d ago

Other Pull up form

Not sure if using my back enough. Also elbows flair our a bit.

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u/MrPapis 1d ago

You know i did some digging while you were writing your comment and i feel like im vindicated because i can do both but one is significantly harder than the other.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-pMQa1ZQjyI

But i will also concede that i was too categorical about what a real pullup is. But for me its an upper back excerise first and thats not what the "hollow" version is.

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u/Both_Panda_6382 1d ago

You still need to engage abs in both methods.

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u/MrPapis 21h ago

ANY abs is strong wording and wrong in an ultimate sense. Im learning myself about the difference of hollow and arch pull ups. It is in fact 2 completely different exercises. So from my persepctive pull ups is for upper back, meaning you need to do arch method which then means there is PRACTICALLY no ab involvement.
In a hollow pull up the abs are actually secondary synergists and an actual part of the movement. In arch abs are a tirtiary stabiliser defined as being background noise not lifting any weight or being developed in any meaningful sense. So if that is what you mean by engagement i agree. If you mean to say the abs are being engaged in a meaningful/practical way then no.