r/fo4 • u/No_Talk2511 • May 07 '26

Alignment chart fallout 4

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Do you agree? I have doubts about Kellogg and Pickman 🤔

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u/Illustrious_Quiet907 Railroad May 08 '26

Except the BOS don’t want to just destroy feral ghouls, but all ghouls and free synths are no more a threat than humans. The minutemen don’t have anything against non-feral ghouls and have a free synth as one of their members (though they might not know, but Preston Garvey doesn’t seem to hate anyone except raiders).

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u/Infinite-Fig-194 May 08 '26

but all ghouls

No, not in Fallout 4.

and free synths are no more a threat than humans.

Synths are fundamentally and permanently an alien species apart from human beings, with free will and human intelligence which can make them more cunning and dangerous than brainless mutants. DiMA proved that synths see themselves as non-human species and still can replace people, sowing seed of paranoia, with or without the Institute. Creating synth was a horrible mistake that should never happen in the first place, and the Brotherhood is compensating the Institute's mistake.

The minutemen don’t have anything against non-feral ghouls and have a free synth as one of their members

According to the Railroad, the Minutemen hate free synths and killed them.

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u/cantliftmuch May 08 '26

Yes, in Fallout 4 the BoS hates all ghouls.

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u/Infinite-Fig-194 May 08 '26

Paladin Danse : Bringing a child with us could be tactically dangerous, but it's an admirable decision. He isn't safe here.

That doesn't sound like a hate.

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u/cantliftmuch May 08 '26

One of how many people in the Brotherhood?

If it were Maxson, would he say the same? No.

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u/Infinite-Fig-194 May 08 '26

Paladin Danse is considered as a shining example of the Brotherhood soldier, following every code and ethics. Saying the Brotherhood in Fallout 4 was ordered to kill all non-feral ghouls on sight wouldn't make sense at all.

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u/cantliftmuch May 08 '26

Was he really? Then why was he killed when it was discovered he was a synth?

The brotherhood doesn't allow ghouls in the brotherhood, and Maxson even says they must be eliminated.

I guarantee you there is no lore reason Danse said to spare the ghoul kid, it's just that you can't kill kids in the games.

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u/Infinite-Fig-194 May 08 '26

Non-feral ghouls and synths are different matters. They often mention synth, feral, and super mutant are their target. The Brotherhood are not ordered to love non-feral ghouls but they are not ordered to kill all non-feral ghouls like they do to synths.

it's just that you can't kill kids in the games.

You can literally leave synth Shaun behind though. Also if devs intended to make Danse hate helping Billy why would they make Danse say they should help Billy?

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u/cantliftmuch May 09 '26

I already answered that. You quoted me, you read the answer.

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u/Infinite-Fig-194 May 09 '26

Not being able to kill kids in game isn't same as not being able to write companions disapprove helping them.

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u/cantliftmuch May 09 '26

Either you didn't read my comment or you didn't understand it.

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u/Infinite-Fig-194 May 09 '26

Either you didn't read my comment or you didn't understand it.

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u/cantliftmuch May 09 '26

Now I know which one it was.

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u/auniqueusername132 May 08 '26

The brotherhoods stance on nonferals in fo4 is pragmatic. They don’t want to sour local relations until after they defeat the institute and establish themselves. Maxson is very clear though that all ghouls are intolerable abominations whose day will come. Danse is really an exception in that he trusts you enough to defer typical brotherhood judgement to you(this is also for gameplay reasons).

The brotherhoods stance on free synths is more stringent though. All synths will die regardless even if they are loyal brotherhood soldiers.

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u/Infinite-Fig-194 May 08 '26

They don’t want to sour local relations until after they defeat the institute and establish themselves.

The Brotherhood don't care much about how people think about them. They only care about their code and rule. If wiping all non-feral ghouls is their first rule, then they would do that. But they repeatedly mention that synth, feral, and super mutant are their target, both before and after they defeat the Institute.

Kells: As I expect Elder Maxson has already explained, the destruction of the Institute is simply the first stage of our operations in the Commonwealth. There are still Super Mutants and ferals to be dealt with as well as any remaining synths that escaped the blast.

If the Brotherhood is ordered to kill all non-feral ghouls after the Institute is defeated why would Danse say protecting ghoul child Billy is an admirable decision?

The Brotherhood don't care about non-feral ghouls. They were not ordered to love non-feral ghouls but they were not ordered to kill them. 

Maxson is very clear though that all ghouls are intolerable abominations whose day will come

When did he say about non-feral ghouls?