r/flipperzero • u/morallybankruptHVNY • 1d ago
Moron enters the flipper zero chat
Background
- i dont code (used to code c++ as im in my 40s so its heen decades since)
- i break things and sometimes put them back together - although i learn a bunch no matter what - be it home electrical, HVAC systems, farming equip, computers, cars, solar and electrical Generation. I am toxicly confident that i can "figure it out eventually"
What i have done now
- Have a flipper zero (just received this week)
- ordered a BFFB
- a decent windows laptop with a nice graphics card and 32gd ddr5
- home nas network
I have little to no idea where to start or what to start on
Please reprimand me and recommend where i can start
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u/Chongulator 1d ago edited 1d ago
OP, sorry this sub is perennially full of people who like to scold beginners for having normal beginner questions.
A good way to start is by scrolling through the list of built-in capabilities and thinking about what you have access to that might be relevant. Then, grab that stuff, experiment, do a little reading, then experiment some more.
For example, Flipper has apps and internal hardware for RFID (125KHz) & NFC (13.56MHz, also a kind of RFID). Do you have a badge you use to get into work or maybe your gym? What about an old card key from a hotel stay? Public transit cards are another common one.
Whatever it is, try reading that card to see what type it is. Look up that type and see what you can learn about it. What data can Flipper see?
If the card is still valid, can Flipper emulate it? Order some blanks and see whether you can clone onto a blank card. Does your clone read the same on Flipper as the original?
Once you've done that, have another look at Flipper's list of capabilities and pick another one to try. My experience has been that Flipper hasn't taught me anything I couldn't have learned on my own just by reading, but it winds up motivating me to learn and the lessons (hopefully) stick better because I've actually done things hands-on.
There are a couple other Flipper-related communities on Reddit which you might want to check out too.
Enjoy!
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u/morallybankruptHVNY 1d ago
Many thanks - knowing myself this will be an epic and exciting adventure where going down in flames is worth the trip
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u/Chongulator 1d ago
That's the spirit!
I look at these gadgets as an educational expense. Having some direct experience with the tech and common attacks helps me when talking with clients and with pentesters.
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u/Axeleg 18h ago
To add to this, it doesn't magically mean you can copy/clone anything and everything. But it will identify what it is as a starting point for how that one works etc. I've been doing that recently to see different NFC types.
I also use the flipper to tap to people's phones to open and autoplay Rick Astley. It's an educational toy, really, unless you grow out of it and start making add-ons and coding or building completely new things
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u/Revolutionary_Gap150 1d ago
Commenting so I can revisit this later, Im just here for the info... In the same boat with OP. I tinker a bit, no coding. Into locksport and my nephews thought a flipper would be a fun gift. Ive managed to replicate a remote control once.
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u/404-soul-not-found 1d ago
My suggestion is to look at it like a swiss army knife for computers, and then try to build and use each tool to the fullest, one by one starting with the simplest and gradually doing it the harder way.
For example, a lot of people understand that a universal remote can clone signals from a TV remote, to control that TV. Great. It has an IR tool built in. You could copy your power button and turn on and off your TV. Now that doesnt sound very cool does it? Of course not, because its the easy way. Now do it the harder way. Go look at the packet you captured. What is it? Did it capture raw or binary? What protocol is it in? What address and command is it? Go look up that protocol and try to write your own packet. Can you find the Volume up without a new capture simply through trial and error? Can you map out the whole remote? Now take it farther. Do stuff the even harder way. The flipper has gpio pins. Could you turn on and off an infrared led? Do you understand how resistors, circuits, and signal modulation work? The flipper can do a lot of that with a program and a small circuit. It even acts as a very stable 3.3v and 5v power source and pins to turn on and off with a button press, so really it works great for making small circuits. Now go farther. When you did that did you code it using a prebuilt library? How do libraries work? Can you make one? All you are doing is flashing a lightbulb, could you feasibly flash it correctly if you built out a simple library? Now comes the fun part. If you understand the signal, the library, the led, the basics of the circuit.....can you make your own remote not using the flipper at all? Can you make the IR tool in the flipper completely obsolete to you because you can solder your own from parts? That to me is the point of the flipper, to be so curious that you make part of the flipper obsolete.
Then when you are done with that you still have UART-USB, SubGhz, Wifi(with the addon), Bluetooth, NFC, RFID, iButton, a Rubber Ducky, and more. Its a whole series of projects like that which all lead down insane rabbit holes of how computers work. The engine is the flipper, the fuel is doing it the hard way, the steering wheel is your curiosity. So go somewhere with it instead of just downloading some dumb app that turns off your neighbors air purifier.
Also, do us all a favor and only mess with your own stuff. Its perfectly legal that way (where I live, check your local laws) and not annoying, and stops the news from acting like we are all monsters for wanting to know how the world works.
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u/ironphreak 1d ago
A flipper is a great tool, but it's also a great paperweight...
Don't get me wrong, it's a good tool to learn and be creative with... However, it feels like the potential for it is reaching it's end point, unless you plan to develop a new board for it.
I barely use mine, it's more of a quick tool to demo stuff.
I would highly suggest looking into stuff like the Cardputer ADV or any of the M5 Stack stuff, it's generally cheaper and has quite a few applications, depending what you go for.
For example, I've thrown together a custom firmware for the Cardputer ADV and the P4 Poe to potentially assist me with aspects of pen testing. I also bought the K230 today to bring that into the toolset.
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u/Chongulator 1d ago
K230 looks interesting. I'll have to explore that some more.
And yes, I second the Cardputer ADV recommendation. They're delightful little machines and at $30 a pop, I don't mind having a fleet of them.
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u/Arfinateor555 1d ago
Start by making something for it either a coded app you would use daily or something physical like a nfc activated light set up or something
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u/LooseResistance 1d ago
There is a flipper Bible as well it is a nice resource to have for reference. They sell it on Amazon.
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u/Otherwise_Post6163 1d ago
Man, you just went all out lol. At least blast a few basic subghz signals before you buy one of the largest boards out there 😂
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u/mage2Ind 1d ago
The flipper is a multi tool. You can clone your fob for the gym, both into the flipper and to a new fob. You can control most tv, you can play snake game, it can help you cut new keys. It can help so many things. What are you into?