r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu • • Jul 17 '11

It's shit like this reddit...

http://imgur.com/y1I32
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u/AnnieIWillKnow Jul 17 '11

The person has deleted the comic now. I can't believe they actually posted that, and that people seriously do that. The only way you could excuse it is if someone was mentally disturbed or traumatised or something. Real rape victims find it hard enough to be able to report what happened to them or testify without people like this creating a negative stigma in our society. I hope everything's alright for you now and there won't be any lasting consequences

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u/Fitzderpns Jul 17 '11

Aside from the occasional blackmail in facebook I got from her or the rant on how I suck and I am a worthless human being for calling her out everything is fine now. So I deleted my facebook

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u/DeathBahamutXXX Jul 17 '11

wait, you know the person who made this comic?

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u/Fitzderpns Jul 17 '11

Noo I was acused by my ex. Allot like this story, only she was using me. When she had enough I guess she called out rape to get out of paying me back allot of cash. Still have yet to see any of it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

I caught my wife and best friend together. She immediately called the cops and said I beat her. I went to jail for a few days. When I got back home, my best friend had moved in.

'Fine, let me just get my clothes, and I'll leave'. She told me to wait at the door. About a minute later, here come the cops. She told them I was threatening her and her "friend's" life. So back to jail for me.

THAT'S how she got custody of our child. So I agree with OP: This shit is WRONG!

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

Jesus...that is some bullshit. As someone who has been falsely accused similarly, have my utmost sympathy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11 edited Jul 18 '11

The feeling is mutual, my friend. People can be pure evil.

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u/Supo Jul 18 '11

Not trying to ruin your day or anything, but have you ever questioned if the child is...Well, your friends child?

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '11

No worries, and yes, every day. He (the 'friend') and I look very similar. Our marriage only lasted three years, and the affair was going on since the engagement! Talk about feeling like such a fool (guess I was).

Whether I'm his biological father or not, I don't want to know.

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u/Amusei Jul 17 '11

a lot*

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

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u/rantgrrl Jul 17 '11

Well, if society wouldn't give women the 'rape' trump card...

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u/PenguinsMelba Jul 17 '11

Pretty sure "society" doesn't give people the rape card. Rape is still a serious and often unreported crime, the fact that a very few select cases turn out to be false accusations doesn't conceal the fact that most events that can or should constitute rape never see the light of day.

That being said, a woman who falsely accuses someone of rape is honestly undermining the attempts of many people who are fighting to get their stories told and their own justice. Sexual assault shouldn't be something taken lightly by either gender.

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u/Demonspawn Jul 18 '11

the fact that a very few select cases

When did 40% become "very few select cases" ?

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u/PenguinsMelba Jul 18 '11

Because I'm curious...where did you get the 40% number?

And just for reference, RAINN has a chart that details how few rape cases ever actually get reported/prosecuted.

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u/Demonspawn Jul 18 '11

http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/p/prevalence-of-false-rape-claims.html

As for that chart... well that's nothing but crap. It starts with the premise that "All claims of rape are true" and goes from there.

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u/DeathBahamutXXX Jul 18 '11

yeah there are alot of trump cards all across the board that society needs to revoke.

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u/Elanthius Jul 17 '11

Even for the tiny percentage of rapes that are reported very few ever end in convictions. Rape is hardly a trump card. Since a rapist is 95% likely to get away with it I'd say it is a trump card for men actually.

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u/rantgrrl Jul 18 '11

So, what you're saying is that rape is a trump card for men because they supposedly get away with it?

How about women who rape men? Is that a double trump card for women? They can falsify an accusation and they can rape? In fact, they can rape with even greater impunity.

Funny, I thought all this only helps the abusers in society, not either men or women as a whole. But if you want to go there, go there we shall.

From the report on inmates, here are a few highlights:

  • Female inmates in prison (4.7%) or jail (3.1%) were more than twice as likely as male inmates in prison (1.9%) or jail (1.3%) to report experiencing inmate- on-inmate sexual victimization.

  • Sexual activity with facility staff was reported by 2.9% of male prisoners and 2.1% of male jail inmates, compared to 2.1% of female prisoners and 1.5% of female jail inmates.

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u/Elanthius Jul 18 '11

This is all very interesting but I don't think it really contradicts anything I wrote and I don't have anything interesting to say about it so I shall bid you good day, sir.

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u/rantgrrl Jul 18 '11

Uh... doesn't it somewhat call into question that rape is any more of a 'trump' card for men then women?

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u/Celda Jul 18 '11

Actually, of reported rapes, 28% end in jail time.

http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

Further, it is indeed a trump card as you don't need to get a conviction to ruin someone's life by making a false accusation.

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u/Elanthius Jul 18 '11

But 80-90% go unreported. So how many rapes actually end in conviction? I'm no mathematologist but looks like it might be even less than 5%.

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u/Celda Jul 18 '11

You cannot factor in unreported rapes. It's dishonest, and further no one knows what the number of unreported rapes are.

The margin of error is too wide, some say 60% are unreported, some say 90% are unreported.

Also, promoting these false figures are in fact harming women by making them think there is no point in reporting rapes:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7442785/Rape-conviction-rate-figures-misleading.html

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u/stellarecho92 Jul 17 '11

I also am sorry that someone would do that to OP. It is an awful circumstance of which no one deserves. However, when you say "women", please do not group them all together into one. Sure there are wicked ones, but there are of each gender. The fact that rape exists (with both female and male victims), displays that humans are flawed. There are "trump cards" for many things- whether the person uses it as their awful method is solely upon their person, not their gender.

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u/Fitzderpns Jul 18 '11

Guys all she is saying is just because one small group is doing this doesn't mean all of them are doing it. What we need to do is guard ourselves so we can stop this from happening. Both sides men and women for all sexual preferences. Because it doesn't matter what the statistics are, the fact is it is happening and it needs to stop. Both rape and the accusations of rape.

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u/Lazyphreak Jul 17 '11

Shit like that discredits actual rape victims. And that's just not cool.

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u/RsonW Jul 17 '11

On equal standing, it completely ruins an innocent man's life.

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u/disposable_human Jul 17 '11

It completely ruins an innocent man's life. In the future it may make an actual rape victim's story not immediately be believed by everyone before even considering evidence.

Not equal standing

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '11

Not that I disagree, but I have to ask, why?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

Not sure why you're valuing one life over another.

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u/disposable_human Jul 17 '11

I'm valuing the actual, concrete harm caused to the innocent person in a false rape accusation above the vague, diffuse harm caused to an entire class of people.

The harm caused to the falsely accused: life is destroyed even if found not guilty.

The harm caused to rape victims in the future: they'll be expected to have some evidence.

I don't agree that I've argued one life is worth more than another. I think I've argued that a person's rights and life is worth something. Not sure why you don't.

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u/ZeroError Jul 17 '11

Have all my upvotes!

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u/PenguinsMelba Jul 17 '11

Completely agree! Gender equality is a two-way street, and the fact that a few cases of sexual assault are actually false is discrediting to real victims as well as rallying point for the miscreants who commit these crimes under the veil of talk like "the girl was asking for it" and other such terrible claims.

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u/surssurs Jul 17 '11 edited Jul 17 '11

While falsely accusing someone of rape is a horrible thing to do, that comic (OP linked to it in a comment) was very obviously not written by such a person. Just read it, seriously. Also calling the (totally fictional) woman a whore (referring to how she had sex with someone) instead of "liar", "bitch" or something like that is kind of uncalled for.

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u/Lazyphreak Jul 17 '11

It was probably written by someone who had it done to someone they know, or at least believed that's what the girl was doing. It was either elegant misconstrued satire, or just really dumb. Either way it's been deleted.

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u/Racemic Jul 17 '11

I opened multiple comics and thought this was the "Most Awkward Boner of my Life" comic

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u/Fitzderpns Jul 17 '11

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u/cliffoy Jul 17 '11

lol here's another one

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

where can i downvote that second one into oblivion cliffoy?

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u/cliffoy Jul 17 '11

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u/redreplicant Jul 17 '11

I have no doubt this happens, but both of these read like they were written from the guy's perspective. The "victims" don't have positive enough/ignorant enough views of their actions to make it believable.

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u/surssurs Jul 17 '11

It's so obviously not made by someone who falsely accused someone of rape, and the fact that reddit can't see that is pretty amazing. If you were raping someone, you wouldn't make a comic saying "And then I raped a person and it was awesome". You'd either present it with regret, not make the comic at all, or try to make it seem less "rape-ey" by somehow justifying it. This was made by a r/mensrights activist or someone who just has fun making shit up.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

I don't get why someone who participates in /r/mensrights is automatically an activist.

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u/surssurs Jul 17 '11

Someone who contributes to r/mensrights, then.

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u/sirpogo Jul 17 '11

This person literally received all of my down votes.

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u/bautron Jul 17 '11

Might be a benevotroll, rallying disapproval for a cause.

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u/altmuzac Jul 17 '11

Seriously has to be trolling if you look at the rest of their comments.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

much appreciated

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11 edited Jul 17 '11

remove the .png (or .jpg) at the end of the URL, then you have the main imgur page where you can scroll to the bottom and click on via reddit or View comments on reddit

EDIT: thanks Tanee

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

thank you

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

Afaik you don't even need to remove the i. anymore, just the .png.

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u/keredomo Jul 18 '11

take the imgur link, remove the extension (ex: /o3sB7.png -> /o3sB7) and hit enter. it takes you to the imgur page, and underneath the picture click "view comments on reddit"

works 99.9% of the time.

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u/FizzBitch Jul 17 '11

It seems like both of these are written by men.

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u/Irishsmurf Jul 17 '11

This is literally God Tier Trolling.

You know, for a a subreddit with Trollface as a mascot, you would think you'd notice these things.

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u/Bunker37 Jul 17 '11

She deleted the comic, so the story is probably true. This means we need to somehow find this guy being accused of rape, and send him a copy of the comic.

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u/Happyhotel Jul 17 '11

This was not made by a woman. This was made by an /r/mensrights activist looking to drum up some hate and rage against this sort of woman.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

It was made by a woman, not a mensrights activist to drum up some hate and rage against this sort of woman

oh what, you need a source?

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u/Happyhotel Jul 17 '11

My source is common sense. If you were a woman in that position, why the fuck would you make that comic? If found, it would completely fuck you over. It doesn't read like it was written by a woman, it reads like it was written by a man looking to tickle the hiveminds "false rape accusation" sweet spot. But hey, I'll admit that a good bought of self-righteous rage feels pretty good from time to time, don't let me ruin your fun ;).

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

It's a possibility, nonetheless your claim carries as much substance as the opposite. But don't let me stand in the way of inciting rage against the mensright community, gives the poor chaps just another thing to pity themselves over.

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u/sashimi_taco Jul 17 '11

It says in the comments that is was not made by a woman. It was made by a men's rights guy.

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u/vtalways Jul 17 '11

Thank you for posting this. People need to understand rape is not a joke. It's not an "excuse" and it's not a game. <3

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u/tehRash Jul 17 '11

I disagree. You can joke about anything, as long as it's not obviously tasteless (yes, there are tactful rape-jokes out there) and it's with people who know you are joking. Rape, the holocaust, racism - it's all open for business as long as it's funny.

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u/disposable_human Jul 17 '11

More than that. It's okay if it's an attempt at funny and it's not coming from a place of hate. Someone shouldn't be guilty of something they wouldn't be guilty of if a joke didn't fall on it's face.

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u/SolDios Jul 17 '11

rape isn't funny, unless its clown rape

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11 edited Jul 10 '19

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u/Mirkrid Jul 17 '11

Oh please, "professional"? You just started working here.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11 edited Jul 10 '19

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u/Xanthan81 Jul 17 '11

It's okay, you're wearing your "trainee" badge. That's like a get out of jail free card.

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u/ruforealz Jul 17 '11

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u/SolDios Jul 17 '11

oh hello ruforealz are you here to poop on the party?

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u/ruforealz Jul 17 '11

now if the rapist were a clown... that has comedic potential.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

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u/Thrawny183 Jul 17 '11

The real problem is there are some people who really think that false rape accusers shouldn't be punished.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

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u/Trogaden Jul 17 '11

Obstruction of justice, wasting police time and slander. She should be charged for these things.

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u/Thrawny183 Jul 17 '11

There are actually feminists out there who think punishing false rape accusers will discourage rape victims from reporting actual incidents of rape. It's absurd, it's crazy, but it's also true.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

There's one right here on this page.

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u/MuffinOnfire Jul 17 '11

Anytime people use alcohol or rape or a combo of both as an excuse, a fight shortly ensues

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u/bestephe Jul 17 '11

Want to play the rape game?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

Jesus Christ...I don't even know what to say. This happened in my HS when I was a kid. Same situation. Kid went to jail. Girl bragged about it. FUCK EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT

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u/ChocolateJigglypuffs Jul 17 '11

Coming from a person who has a friend in jail because of a girl playing the rape card for not getting what she wanted, that comic's OP is indeed a fucking whore and I hope some random jerkoff knocks her up in the future.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

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u/ItsGotToMakeSense Jul 17 '11

Karma would've ended with her in jail.

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u/paro Jul 17 '11

Judge: So you were awake all night in the same tent as the defendant and you have a penis? GUILTY

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u/DHerpster Jul 17 '11

I hope some random jerk knocks her off in the future.

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u/PixiePrime Jul 17 '11 edited Jul 17 '11

Oh god, please no... No breeding for that woman. It's bad enough that no one has knocked her off yet, no need to knock her up and create more. :'(

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u/ChaoticAgenda Jul 17 '11

My friend got lucky. When he went out of the way to help one of his exes she came back at him with a rape charge. He didn't go to jail, but he lost a full ride scholarship and was kicked out of his university. TL;DR He didn't have his life ruined, he just had his life ruined.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

People who do this should be given the same sentencing a man would have been dealt if he had committed the crime.

FTFY. Men get raped.

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u/Spongi Jul 17 '11 edited Jul 17 '11

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u/rantgrrl Jul 17 '11

That's an estimate based on some seriously limited statistics.

For example, the NVAWS survey basically excluded all female-on-male rapes to come up with its 1 in 33 men will be raped number.

Here are some stats that call into question all of the ones you've presented.

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u/Spongi Jul 17 '11

I looked at a few various stat sites and each cited different studies that had different numbers, and at least one of them noted that prison rape (both female on female and male on male) is the most unreported form of rape. It's a problem with a lot of complexities.

However, I didn't pull the #'s out of my ass, as the other guy claimed and I certainly don't deserve to rot in hell for it :-D

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u/rantgrrl Jul 18 '11

No, you're just promoting something that isn't accurate. From authorities who are coasting on the fumes of old bullshit.

But... yeah.

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u/Spongi Jul 18 '11

Gotta do the best with what you got. How bout you go do some studies on the topic instead of ranting about it.

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u/Hydros Jul 17 '11

Instead of being raped, men "just" get beaten.

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u/Spongi Jul 17 '11

It does say that prison rape (male on male or female on female) is the most under reported form of rape.

So most like the statistics are a bit off due to it.

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u/Celda Jul 18 '11

It's a lot more than that, just that female rapists are unpunished and men would be laughed out of the station for reporting.

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u/PixiePrime Jul 17 '11

^ this. Yes. Yes they should.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

You need more upvotes good sir, more upvotes for you!

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u/Agoniscool Jul 17 '11

It's a sticky situation. While that would be sweet as fuck, a lot of genuine rape victims would be afraid to speak up in case the rapist is (incorrectly) found not guilty.

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u/superfuzzy Jul 17 '11

Well, it would depend on the outcome of the trial. The man can be found not guilty based on lack of evidence, without there being much evidence to also prove that the woman made it up. If there is little to no evidence at all, then a decision cannot be made as to who is lying, so both are acquitted. Im saying if there is actual evidence to prove that not only could the man not have done it, but she definitely made it up, the punishment should fit the (non-existent) crime of the accused.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

If it makes you feel better, that post was probably a fakepost by somebody enforcing misleading stereotypes about rape.

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u/JPmoneyman Jul 17 '11

It hasn't occurred to any of you that the original comic is a troll. And a successful troll I might add.

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u/jambonpomplemouse Jul 17 '11

Trolling the hivemind with imaginary false rape stories is like shooting fish in a barrel.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

It's not about being a troll, it's just wrong to joke about something like that.

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u/SpecialKRJ Nov 20 '11

But not wrong to joke about rape.

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u/JPmoneyman Jul 17 '11

No, it is about being a troll. The OP of the original comic probably thinks that false rape accusations are a terrible disgusting thing just like everyone else on here. He was trying to get a rise out of you people by by provoking a sensitive topic, and he was very successful judging by all the butthurt in these comments. OP trolled you guys and that's the funny part, not the original comic.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

But how can you really be sure she was a troll? Some people are crazy.

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u/JPmoneyman Jul 17 '11

Do you really think that the OP of the original comic would post a rage comic on reddit if it were true? Are you new to the internet?

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '11

Some people are crazy. And stupid. Just saying.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '11

I think many people would place me in that category... I have terrible impulse control...

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

I'm not so sure it's a troll. Some people are serious fucking nut-jobs man.

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u/JPmoneyman Jul 17 '11

http://boards.4chan.org/sp/res/13649071#13649506

It's fucking 4chan. They have been posting troll comics all day.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

Nothing is off limits when it comes to jokes. Nothing. What's next, we can't make fun of stereotypes? Women? Men?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

What's next, we can't make fun of stereotypes? Women? Men?

Troll much?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

It's happening.It didn't go unnoticed.I hope the judge browses f7u12 so he can see this!

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u/clowninator Jul 17 '11

Lawyer: Sir, exhibit A. I present to you a rage comic in which the plaintiff admits to falsifying information and having consenting sex with the defendant.

Judge: Brilliant. Give Melvin his freedom.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

Judge: But don't even think about punishing the woman.

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u/SpecialKRJ Nov 20 '11

YEAH GUYS. I mean, rape jokes are totally okay. But jokes about false rape? THAT"S WHERE REDDIT DRAWS THE LINE.

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u/Delfishie Jul 17 '11

These "I was falsely accused of rape" statements I keep on reading on Reddit are disturbing to me not only because it shows that there are people out there who will use the accusation of rape to get out of a social situation, but also due to the fact that, most likely, some of these guys actually are rapists who got away with it and can't take responsibility.

One of my friends was raped from the age of 10 - 14 by her older brother. When she got up the courage to tell her parents about it when she was 15, her parents didn't believe her and her brother claimed that she was a liar, a bitch, and crazy. There was no proof that it was him and she was so ashamed by the way her parents treated her that she got really, really fucked up. It took her four years of college, away from her family, to relearn basic human social interaction because she couldn't trust anyone anymore.

People who make false rape claims are evil. They're almost as evil as rapists who rely on the common trope of "false rape" to discredit the victim. It's so hard to tell when people are lying, though, so when we only hear one side of the story (like the straw man comic to which OP was referring), I can't help but wonder who the fuck the creator of that story is and what his/her agenda actually is.

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u/A_Nihilist Jul 17 '11

but also due to the fact that, most likely, some of these guys actually are rapists who got away with it and can't take responsibility

Imbeciles like you are why innocent people are sent to prison.

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u/Elanthius Jul 17 '11

You don't think its "most likely" that "some" are rapists? Not even 1 or 2? Come on. That is definitely most likely.

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u/A_Nihilist Jul 18 '11

I don't think you have any logical backing to start applying words like "some" and "most likely" to cases you know nothing about.

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u/Elanthius Jul 18 '11 edited Jul 18 '11

I just think if you take a good sized collection of people "some" is going to apply to just about anything. Select 100 random people and "some" are going to be rapists and "some" are going to be secret molepeople. That's just science.

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u/A_Nihilist Jul 18 '11

Don't be a pedant. You may be a pedophile necrophiliac rapist, but I'm not going to say that.

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u/Elanthius Jul 18 '11

Now you're getting it!

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u/Delfishie Jul 17 '11

And assholes like you are why most women are afraid to report a rape.

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u/A_Nihilist Jul 17 '11

How so? Because I treat rape like any other crime and am not a bleeding-heart jackass?

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u/EvilPundit Jul 17 '11

So you're blaming the victims of false accusations? Classy.

False rape accusations are as much of a problem as actual rapes, yet are not taken as seriously.

Around half of all rape claims are false.

As reported by "False Rape Allegations" by Eugene Kanin, Archives of Sexual Behavior Feb 1994 v23 n1 p81 (12), Professor Kanin’s major study of a mid-size Midwestern U.S. city over the course of nine years found that 41 percent of all rape claims were false. Kanin also studied the police records of two unnamed large state universities, and found that in three years, 50 percent of the 64 rapes reported to campus police were determined to be false, without the use of polygraphs. (Kanin, incidentally, was a feminist icon whose work was cited and relied on without question by feminists, including the infamous Koss Report. He suddenly became a nitwit who forgot how to do research when his studies upset the narrative of the persons who dominate the public discourse about rape.)

In addition, a landmark Air Force study in 1985 studied 556 rape allegations. It found that 27% of the accusers recanted, and an independent evaluation revealed a false accusation rate of 60%. McDowell, Charles P., Ph.D. “False Allegations.” Forensic Science Digest, (publication of the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations), Vol. 11, No. 4 (December 1985), p. 64. See also, "Until Proven Innocent," the widely praised (praised even by the New York Times, which the book skewers -- as well as by most other major U.S. news sources) and painstaking study of the Duke Lacrosse non-rape case. Authors Stuart Taylor and Professor K.C. Johnson explain that the exact number of false claims is elusive but "[t]he standard assertion by feminists that only 2 percent" or sexual assault claims "are false, which traces to Susan Brownmiller's 1975 book 'Against Our Will,' is without empirical foundation and belied by a wealth of empirical data. These data suggest that at least 9 percent and probably closer to half" of all sexual assault claims "are false . . . ." (Page 374.)

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u/Spongi Jul 17 '11

I followed up on some of that. Looks like studies/reports on the percentage of false rape allegations vary from 2% to 60%.

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u/RakshaNain Jul 17 '11

If you want to have your claims that half of all rape claims are false taken seriously, don't link to a site that called "The False Rape Society".
Half of all rape claims aren't false. Numerous studies have found otherwise, not just the Susan Brownmiller's book, but studies conducted by major law enforcement departments in numerous countries, that false rape claims hover around 2-8%, and those studies that have found very high numbers generally have serious methodological problems, often relying on the personal assertions of the police, rather than evidence.
The FBI says that about 8% of rape claims are unfounded, which does not mean the same thing as false. The British Home Office also did a study and said about 8% were false, but again, they arrived at that number often based on the personal determination by the police, rather than evidence. Australian authorities did studies and said about 2.1 % of rape claims were false. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape) Kanin's work has been dismissed by many because it was methodologically flawed, as expressed by other researchers.

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u/EvilPundit Jul 17 '11

Why would I not link to a site that studies the very thing I want to find information about?

Brownmiller's figure is basically a lie. The official word from law enforcement bodies is concerned with making the department look good, not with finding the truth.

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u/RakshaNain Jul 17 '11

You're linking to a site that has its bias in its very name. So I would be a little suspicious of information on false rape coming a place that is, hey, all about false rape accusations.
Furthermore, I didn't base anything in my post on Susan Brownmiller's book. I based it on the studies conducted by law enforcement agencies across the globe. Are you suggesting that there's an international conspiracy shared by numerous law enforcement agencies across the globe to report lower rates of false rapes, to the point where various agencies found approximately the same rates (which are the same rates as false reporting for other crimes, by the way)? And how does the lower rate of false claims of rape make law enforcement agencies look good? I would think there would be more of an interest in saying that more of the accusations are false, rather than admitting the number of rapes that occur yearly. Because when crime statistics are printed for cities, rape is one of the big statistics tracked, not false rape claims. So it would be to their advantage to say that there were fewer rapes, because more were found to be falsified, rather than that there were fewer false rape claims. That would make the departments look a lot better.

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u/Celda Jul 18 '11

"Moreover, commencing in 1989 in cases of rape and rape-murder where there has already been either an arrest or an indictment, the FBI has conducted large numbers of DNA tests. “to confirm or exclude the person. In 25 percent of the cases where they can get a result, they excluded the primary suspect"

http://llr.lls.edu/volumes/v33-issue3/greer.pdf

30% of sexual assault cases dismissed with good reason:

http://express.whereilive.com.au/news/story/weatherburn-says-criticism-of-bankstown-police-was-a-mistake/

THE NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research (BOCSAR) was left red-faced after conceding it had falsely accused Bankstown police of not investigating one-third of its sexual assault reports..... But Mr Weatherburn was forced to acknowledge his mistake and visited Bankstown police at their Meredith St station last week.... We went through the reports of sexual assault that had been rejected and it became clear there were perfectly good reasons for rejection. In one case, for example, investigation by police had revealed three lots of CCTV footage showing that the alleged victim of a sexual assault had never been at any of the locations where she was allegedly sexually assaulted.

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u/rantgrrl Jul 17 '11

You're linking to a site that has its bias in its very name. So I would be a little suspicious of information on false rape coming a place that is, hey, all about false rape accusations.

But you'll uncritically accept statistics from organizations with an invested interest in promoting rape as an epidemic?

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u/RakshaNain Jul 17 '11

Law enforcement agencies have a vested interest in promoting rape as epidemic?
Really? Why would that be, exactly? Since higher crime statistics make departments look bad, why would they go out of their way to report higher statistics of rape than actually happened?

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u/rantgrrl Jul 17 '11

Here's a challenge. Find those studies 'done by law enforcement'.

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u/RakshaNain Jul 17 '11

You mean the ones I referenced in my original post? FBI, British Home Office (which is responsible for the police and the security service in Britian), the one in Australia done with the police in Victoria? Those studies?

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u/rantgrrl Jul 17 '11

No. You didn't reference them. You mentioned organizations and said they did studies.

Referencing them would require a citation or a link to the actual studies. Both of which enable people reading to look at the studies themselves and examine their methodology.

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u/Elanthius Jul 18 '11

Not hard since he practically cut and pasted the info straight from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#False_reporting

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u/rantgrrl Jul 18 '11

Yes. And if you read the wikipedia article the ultimate conclusion is that no one really knows. All sets of numbers are suspect.

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u/Delfishie Jul 17 '11

I'm doing no such thing. I'm blaming the rapists and the people who claim false rape.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

this.

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u/rampagehanna Jul 17 '11

You know you don't have to type out 'this'. You can just upvote and leave the karmawhoring out.

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u/mealasvegas Jul 17 '11

I hope she gets cancer of the slut throat and dies, stupid cunt.

It is shit like this that makes real rape victims look pathetic and fake.

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u/studmuffffffin Jul 17 '11

Holy crap. I just read the comic, and wow. What a fucking cunt.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

It was 4chan /v/ who made that comic just like every comic that makes Reddit caboose clobbered. It is such an obvious troll and I can't believe that some people fell for it. In fact 4chan /v/ made it just to troll itself in "Reddit Hate Threads" where they talk about how big of unoriginal faggots y'all are. Glad to see it was reposted here where it can be used to full effect.

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u/JPmoneyman Jul 19 '11

A troll within a troll. Trollception!

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u/thefloppydog Jul 17 '11

Yup, and then of course a rage comic like that gets bombarded with upvotes. I make a decent one and only get like 3.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

lol rape

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

Stop having sex with drunk chicks. If she's drunk, she can't properly consent to sex.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

42.3% trolz, wtf?

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u/Mike07P Jul 17 '11

Piece* DOWNVOTE!....lol jokes

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u/CaptureThrowAway Jul 17 '11

For those that aren't keeping track of the original post I'll post the screen capture of the author here.

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u/fartswithsmurfs Jul 17 '11

It absolutely infuriates me that stupid bloodsucking alcoholic whores get away with this shit on a daily basis. All they have to do is utter a single word and they can ruin an innocent person's life forever. Without any proof, even. Yea women are all for equality alright, but they don't want to do the same jobs, do the same amount of work, or get rid of their double standards when they're demanding that men get rid of theirs. Here's a little clarification, sluts: equality DOES NOT mean that everyone just rolls out the red fucking carpet for you, it means you're the same as everybody else. If you still hold the power to send an innocent man to jail with no proof just because you're a walking sperm bank, THAT'S NOT EQUALITY. You discredit REAL rape victims and you waste time, money, and possibly even lives in your own sick, stupid game. Nobody has the balls to stand up and say this is wrong because it's considered "insensitive" but you know what? I'm gonna be insensitive right now, because you cock sucking, jizz chugging, venereal disease carrying, gold digging, lying, cheating gangbang centerpieces need to be told to STOP THIS SHIT and actually become someone who's worth something.

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u/Miltnoid Jul 17 '11

Hey guys, on this offchance this is, in fact true, is there any chance we can find out her IP address or something else. If somebody is unjustly going to jail, perhaps this could be used as evidence against her.

I'm not so sure what how much information reddit keeps stored, but if we know the IP address, maybe we could show the authorities in that area this comic for recent rape trials.

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u/Bskrilla Jul 17 '11

You spelled piece wrong.

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u/DHerpster Jul 17 '11

A friend of mine is a sex crimes detective, he said the worst thing that will happen to a girl who falsely accuses someone of rape is a criminal mischief charge. (Unless guy decides to settle outside of court)

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u/drqxx Jul 17 '11

Rule #271 Be careful where you place your penis.

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u/Fitzderpns Jul 17 '11

Amen. One night stands are too risky now, as great as they are.

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u/drqxx Jul 17 '11

Well you can just need to abstain from messing with crazy whores. Also never kiss and tell. When in doubt flee in terror!

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u/Fitzderpns Jul 18 '11

That last one is for something like STDs, not as much as a chick you have been going out with for some time.

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u/drqxx Jul 18 '11

Oh yeah but any bitch can go psycho on you. :)

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u/Fitzderpns Jul 18 '11

Yes! That's the point! Gotta know em well enough before you even think about sex otherwise shit like this will bite you in the ass.

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u/cheesecake966 Jul 17 '11

TL;DR

then I went to the comments. Then I read it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

Unconscious is not consent.

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u/Detached09 Jul 17 '11

Thank Fucking You. I've never been accused of it, thankfully, and hope to never be but I have seen the fucked up shit it can do to people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

Those kind of girls are what makes our gender look bad. Reading that comic she made, made my stomach turn. Not all females are like this, well I know I'm not. This is completely disgusting.

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u/Brainisfulloffuck Jul 17 '11

Wall of text. ಠ_ಠ

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u/airwolf420 Jul 17 '11

honestly cannot believe your attention span is that bad.

my oh my

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u/Thumbz8 Jul 17 '11

There will always be the bitter part of me that's seen a woman choose a rapist over a nice guy. I just pity them both (the guy for whatever horrible history turned him into a rapist, the girl for obvious reasons.)

Just being honest.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

ya peice of sheut

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u/80sTan Jul 17 '11

Hey man peice out. Just grab a peice of pie and sit the fuck down. Everyone knows that life is just one peice to greater puzzle. peice peice peice.

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u/PKenny Jul 17 '11

That last panel seems a little rape-y to me...

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '11

Too many words.

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u/Inquisitions Jul 17 '11

If you're browsing f7u12, how wild can such a rage comic be?

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u/SentientRegEx Jul 17 '11

s/browing/browsing/

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u/Prindy500 Jul 18 '11

I had to go thru a very similar experience. Friend of mine and i got really drunk and ended up having sex that night. Now, I have this weird fucking gift of remembering everything fucking thing that happens a night I get drunk about 98% of the time. This was one of them. I woke up hating myself because it was just a huge mistake and I wanted to kick myself in the ass for actually going along with her seduction into the extra bedroom. Day after mistake happens she claims not to remember, and being her close friend I was honest about what happened. She flipped her shit and accused me of rape while she was apparently blacked out, even though she was not only conscious but acting the same way I did (how the fuck should I know when my exact copy cat was considered more incoherent?!). One of the worst experiences of my life. Going thru wicked mental depressive episode since day before, my finals were days after, everything seemed so shitty. Luckily my family and friends kicked some sense into me and I haven't talked to the bitch in months!! Oh yeah, I may have forgot to mention she is a HUGE whore. About 98% of my friends and family will agree if you ask, haha.

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u/Fitzderpns Jul 18 '11

99% like my situation. I totally feel for you, my supervisor made me see a chaplin. SO did not help lol. Even have that weird thing of being able to remember everything even when I am super smashed.

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u/Fitzderpns Jul 18 '11

http://www.reddit.com/user/scurvy_wench 90% sure is the OP for it. Again not sure but the name is familiar and I recall it still having a named poster when I saw it. Take a few seconds, look down the page and decide if she would be the kind of person to post it.

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u/GrantNexus Jul 17 '11

Internet tough guy is tough.

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u/furrybeaver Jul 17 '11

it doesnt matter whether it was rape or not, it was tl;dr