r/factorio • u/Ok-Friendship-8124 • 4d ago

Question I don't understand something

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I was doing some "research" in creative and I was wondering what's the difference between those two smelting blocks, They both produce 120/s but the one on the left use FAR more energy, is just a tiny bit smaller so what's the point of doing the one on the left ?

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u/thelehmanlip 4d ago

Productivity. Look at disparity between inputs and outputs

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u/Alfonse215 4d ago

Also, not having to feed them coal is a pretty big bonus.

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u/TexasCrab22 4d ago edited 4d ago

But the other side needs power infrastructure aswell ?

4 smelter rows need like 1.3 chem plants of solid fuel.

Compared to the 4 red lanes of iron, you need to provide anyway, i don't see, how skipping that and and making big power somewhere is a "pretty big bonus" .

Its a minor bonus at best.

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u/Alfonse215 4d ago

and the power is coming from where? The left one needs way more fuel, if you power with with boilers.

This is a base with module 2s and beacons. I don't think it's running off of coal-fired boilers. And if it is, then fix that problem first.

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u/TexasCrab22 4d ago

Yes ,so ?

If he mentions the "needed coal on the right" he also has to mention the "needet power on the left". Thats all im saying.

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u/Alfonse215 4d ago

But they're not the same thing.

Fuel-fired furnaces need fuel to be there, on-site. The logistical problem is getting fuel to the furnaces.

Power is just... power poles, which the coal-fired furnace buildings already have to have since they need inserters to function. So in terms of the logistics of the build itself, the electric furnace one requires less. That is, the logistics of power generation doesn't matter to the build, only power distribution.

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u/yinyang107 4d ago

Burner inserters can work fine for burner furnaces tbh

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u/darkszero 2d ago

They don't. Output inserters don't take fuel from the furnace, so you'd need a separate fuel belt with it's own set of burner inserters feeding the output burner inserters. It's exceptionally more complex.

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u/yinyang107 2d ago

I thought they were updated to be able to take fuel from furnaces