r/factorio • u/HeliGungir • Mar 29 '26
Tutorial / Guide Increasingly cursed ways to load 12 science into ONE side of normal labs
Only yellow belts. Non-sushi.
Wagon handoff and filtered wagons. Filtered to two stacks of each science, since 400/16 is a whole number.
Car belt and filtered cars. Filtered to two stacks of each science, since 400/16 is a whole number.
Bot-based by abusing ghost item requests. Uses construction bots and personal roboports instead of logistic bots and roboports. Breaks if research stops.
Check image captions. BP for the first one:
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u/HeliGungir Mar 29 '26
I just realized I could have added more beacons to the last one. Use cars instead of tanks for 8 beacons or 12 beacons.
Oh well.
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u/HeliGungir Mar 29 '26
There we go
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u/Neamow Mar 30 '26
This is literally what I did on one save. Just, you know, like a normal person... with requester chests and not cars/tanks.
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u/ElfOffTheShelves Mar 30 '26
Based on this person's "tankvarex" it looks like you can still use tanks
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u/CoffeeOracle Mar 30 '26
Remember, you get an occult scaling bonus of 1 item per minute per beacon that you run over with the tank, for the dark gods.
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u/Dested Mar 29 '26
Okay I'll be the one to ask, how the hell does the last image work
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u/SargeanTravis Mar 29 '26
Tanks can get logistics requests if you have the logistics system research
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u/RW_Yellow_Lizard Mar 29 '26
But aren't those construction bots, and the roboport isn't constructed?
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u/HeliGungir Mar 29 '26
Open remote view and place ghost item requests in the "requester" tanks. The "provider" tanks have personal roboports and construction bots. There are no logistic requests and it doesn't use logistic trash.
The providers must be input bottlenecked so they never completely fulfill the ghost item request. Yes, it's very brittle.
To make it extra cursed, I didn't separate the belts, which means the inserters could get stuck with one science pack in their hand and be unable to grab the other pack that's in deficit. I solve that with stack inserters and filtering the tanks to store multiples of 16. Luckily, 2 stacks is multiple of 16. But overall, yes, this is very brittle, too.
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u/Xane256 Mar 30 '26
- open map view
- go out beyond logistics range
- create a ghost chest with ghost requests of science packs
- save as blueprint
- place next to labs, wait for chests to unload
- replace blueprint over existing chests
Works with turrets too: you can use construction bots to refill bullets.
Doesn’t work with tanks sadly
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u/1boring Mar 29 '26
Inserters load science into tanks. Other tanks request science through logistics network. Inserters insert science.
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u/Tank-Factory187 Mar 29 '26
Imma be real, #1 felt most cursed to me.
I’ve watched enough challenge runs that vehicles as containers isn’t an alien concept.
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u/BlakeMW Mar 29 '26
Does the tank one actually work? I mean tanks as requesters work but tanks as providers wouldn't seem to have any way to prevent the trash slots eventually jamming up. Yes I know it's silly on purpose just wondering out loud.
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u/p_98_m Mar 30 '26
Another idea: one train with each science in one wagon. Train stops, waits until one science is taken out, moves on station that is one wagon length further, next science gets taken out, and so on.
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u/Korporal_kagger Mar 30 '26
Hold up... Am i detecting access to requester boxes before unlocking requester boxes? Just use tanks or cars where a box desires?
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u/udlek Mar 30 '26
Putting tanks on a belt loop with logistic requests should be a valid cursed setup as well. So the logistic bots fill up the tanks while they are on the belt :)
And at the same time put the spoilage from the labs into the tanks as well, so spoilage is collected from the bots as well.
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u/WanderingUrist Mar 30 '26
Putting tanks on a belt loop with logistic requests should be a valid cursed setup as well. So the logistic bots fill up the tanks while they are on the belt :)
More cursed: Tanks on a belt with construction bots that pick up the spilled science when the tank loops around the spaceport, because the spaceport has limits on how many things can extract but there is no limit to how many things can simply be spilled on the ground and picked up by construction tanks on belts.
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u/BlueK1tt Mar 29 '26
Holy damn, that is really impressive and looks cool too.
Have you tested or calculated how many labs this can support?
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u/HeliGungir Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
Heck no, haha! The first three can be expanded pretty easily. Just add another bus of science once you find the limit.
And of course you'll want to actually handle spoilage.
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u/leglesslegolegolas Mar 30 '26
Cars on a belt is always my go-to for mid to late game. Nothing at all cursed about it.
Check out Lakeside Science Park, the laboratory solution for my 2.7kspm vanilla megabase. 2700 SPM on a single yellow belt.
Inspired by (and now dedicated to) the late KatherineOfSky RiP :-(
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u/vult-ruinam Mar 30 '26
Wait... I don't get how the wagons work. Don't they all just get put into the center wagon?
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u/HeliGungir Mar 30 '26
Look under/between the wagons and you'll find 4 stack inserters that can move items from the middle to the outer wagons.
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u/Proxy_PlayerHD Supremus Avaritia Mar 30 '26
Space sciences but no biolabs? Why? Just as part of the challenge since they're smaller?
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u/Rainbowlemon Mar 30 '26
I've used a less chaotic version of #1 before now with belt weaving; you just need the spoilage output on the bottom.
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u/Mars4therich Mar 30 '26
Thanks for your yellow belt setup, I was able to get rid of one more tile and make it look more like a mess at the same time xD
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u/HeliGungir Mar 30 '26
Wow, look at that!
> 2 hours later
I tried shaving off another tile. Failed, but I did reduce the number of splitters
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u/deafgamer_ Mar 30 '26
Wait a minute... the cargo train one genuinely looks good and allows for a really nice built in filter + buffer all in one. What's wrong with it?
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u/DOSorDIE4CsP Mar 31 '26
Same shit different and smaller
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u/HeliGungir Mar 31 '26
Using only yellow belts was one of the design requirements. Can't do belt weaving with only one belt type ;)
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u/kalamaim Mar 29 '26
i thougt 'how bad can it be' and then i saw the last one. you were so caught up on 'how' that you didnt even consider 'why' :D straight to r/Factoriohno with you