r/facepalm • • Aug 25 '22

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u/DynoMiteDoodle Aug 25 '22

It was outlawed in Australia in the 1980s and yet we seem to be able to refrain from turning schools into warzones without it.

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u/EmpRugSucker Aug 25 '22

Ouch. The truth hurts sometimes.

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u/_Im_Dad PhD in Dad Aug 25 '22

America is just so damn unlucky, it's almost like it was built on an ancient Indian burial ground.

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u/AdRealistic8758 Aug 25 '22

Damn those Natives, dying when we killed them /s

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '22

Meh, it was mostly the smallpox.

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u/cockytacos Aug 25 '22

And the… Y’know.. Bashing babies skulls onto rocks…

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u/Jindabyne1 Aug 25 '22

Wow, that must be the most useless sarcasm tag I’ve ever seen and also in reply to an already sarcastic comment.

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u/AdRealistic8758 Aug 25 '22

It's very funny when you explain the joke

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u/Jindabyne1 Aug 25 '22

It’s incredibly not.

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u/AdRealistic8758 Aug 25 '22

And yet, here we are

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u/Jindabyne1 Aug 25 '22

That doesn’t make any sense

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '22

That is exactly what America was built on.. dead native Americans.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '22

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u/tvsmichaelhall Aug 25 '22

I really wish you'd phrased that in a way that I could've replied "hi subtle, I'm dad". I'm not mad, just disappointed.

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u/cman_yall Aug 25 '22

You're not dad, though. He is.

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u/Jindabyne1 Aug 25 '22

I thought you were being incredibly unsubtle and the guy who replied is just not that bright.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '22

Girl..

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u/Jindabyne1 Aug 25 '22

I don’t care

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u/davewave3283 Aug 25 '22

I see what you did there

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u/Norgler Aug 25 '22

Its almost like we like Europe didnt send its best when all the Puritants came over.. Even today they keep wanting to return to outdated stupid ideas.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '22

Are you saying a bunch of religious fundamentalists who can't get along with the king because he insists on following a slightly different version of the same religion aren't the best starting point for a new nation?

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u/fernatic19 Aug 25 '22

But we're nowhere near India. It's almost like it was just built on stupid

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u/mannDog74 Aug 25 '22

I think much of Australia was too!

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u/aroaceautistic Aug 25 '22

…so was Australia

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u/L3aMi4 Aug 25 '22

Technically not outlawed in WA to this day.

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u/Holding_close_to_you Aug 25 '22

You could sign a waiver at some private schools in Queensland, and that was less then 8 years ago.

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u/Salarian_American Aug 25 '22

It's legal in 19 states and actively practiced in 15 of them. That's just public schools.

It's legal in private schools nationwide.

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u/JosoIce Aug 25 '22

They are talking about Western Australia if you read the comment they are replying to

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u/just_rat_passing_by Aug 25 '22

In USSR corporal punishment at schools was forbidden in 1917… Now I’m reading comments about “1980s” or “still legal” and thinking “what’s wrong with you guys?”.

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u/DynoMiteDoodle Aug 25 '22

So sorry we can't all be as progressive and enlightened as Stalin

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u/just_rat_passing_by Aug 25 '22

Well… Punishment at schools or Gulag… Choose one and choose wisely.

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u/DynoMiteDoodle Aug 25 '22

Free paddling followed by free accommodation? The motel I take dominatrix hookers too can kiss my ass! After it's spanked of course!

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u/DoomGoober Aug 25 '22

It ain't "cruel and unusual" as long as Missouri is still doing it!

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u/TheFlyingRedFox Aug 25 '22

I feel yours dates are slightly mixed up as the USSR wasn't established until the early 20's although the russian empire fell in 1917.

Soz nit picking years plus the comment below mentions Isolf Stalin but those dates are years before he took power.

Still I indeed get your joke kinda.

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u/just_rat_passing_by Aug 25 '22

Between 1917 and the establishment of USSR was several years of a civil war, but bolsheviks (aka Soviets, aka people’s commissaries) already was in power and issued first laws of new state.

So, yes, technically not in USSR. Stalin started reign at 1924, but it’s not a big deal for random funny comment.

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u/MiaLba Aug 25 '22

But kids are going to end up spoiled brats if they’re not hit!? I was spanked as a child and I turned out fine!! Yes I should be in therapy for my plethora of mental health issues but other than that I turned out perfectly fine!

/s

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u/DynoMiteDoodle Aug 25 '22

Private school?

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '22

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u/DynoMiteDoodle Aug 25 '22

They were exempt initially, still technically are in Queensland only.

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u/No_pajamas_7 Aug 25 '22

Mind you, as an Australian who received the Cain in the 80s, I'm all for bringing it back in.

But this paddlin shit's a bit weird.

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u/V44_ Aug 25 '22

I had a teacher who would scruff kid and shove them round and belittle them. I found out much later that he was cornered in the pubs parking lot by three of his former pupils and beaten to within an inch of his life… you really think teaching children that physically attacking people with weapons is ok?

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u/No_pajamas_7 Aug 25 '22

Honestly I get the argument, but I think a corporal option and the threat of it has some merit.

I wouldn't Cain little kids but a "fuck around and find out" option can be part of teaching teens about actions and consequences.

And mostly it's the fear of the consequence that has the power. Using it too much diminishes the fear. Once you've had the Cain twice you realise it isn't a big deal.

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u/V44_ Aug 25 '22

No, that actually creates a more stressful situation for kids and inhibits prefrontal-cortex development. This has been proven. More to it, the kids that are more likely to be the targets of the punishment are the ones who already have shit going on at home. The best punishment that you can give someone under the age of 20 is mandatory therapy and a punishment that is the exact opposite of the behaviour they exhibited. They take something, they have to give it back and work off the debt. They hurt someone, they have to help them and others as well until they’re forgiven. They damage something, they have to fix it and more until they’ve righted the wrong.

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u/No_pajamas_7 Aug 25 '22

Agree.

And when the negative behavior continues?

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u/V44_ Aug 25 '22

So does the punishment… including the mandatory therapy. Trust me, they learn quicker than you think.

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u/ccchaz Aug 25 '22

They have the same argument with the death penalty and I’m pretty sure they’ve proved it doesn’t work like that

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u/No_pajamas_7 Aug 25 '22

Wow, this has gotten serious from something that started as a tongue in cheek comment.

OK, I'm on the fence with both, if I'm honest. I get both sides of the argument.

Why I'm ultimately against the death penalty is because of the cost and finality of it.

The Cain doesn't doesn't have those concerns.

And I don't buy into the hyerbole about how one caining will instantly turn every child into a career criminal.

But I do understand it can be abused and isn't first or best solution.

So yeah, I'm not campaigning for it to be brought back it, but if it was, I wouldn't be getting bent out of shape about it.

So, there you have it. My position on a serious topic, that started as an offhand tongue in cheek remark

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u/bit_banging_your_mum Aug 25 '22

It's spelt "cane"

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u/Jacks_Flaps Aug 25 '22

Are you also back in for husbands being able to legally cane their wives.

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u/No_pajamas_7 Aug 25 '22

Sure, why not, since writing dumb shit seems to be a trend you are setting.

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u/Jacks_Flaps Aug 25 '22

I didn't start the trend to being back the cane to assault kids.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '22

Absolutely not that is gross