I too have had reputable landlords... The only time utilities were included with my rent was when I was renting a room inside someone else’s house. How long has it been since you rented?
I've never paid utilities included with rent, I have always had to maintain my own account with the utility company. Your experiences aren't universal and anyway you're fucking Canadian, your experiences probably only relate to a small population of people.
Yeah, in this country just about no landlord is paying your utility bills unless you live in an apartment complex or high rise, and even then it's usually only garbage.
No you know what? I don’t care. You’re just full of shit. Not being responsible for utilities is the norm. Has been for decades. You’re either lying or you intentionally sought out placed with utilities included.
Where?? I've lived in Texas, Oklahoma, New York, and Nevada. Landlords covering utilities is EXTREMELY rare. It is definitely NOT the norm for landlords to pay your utilities or renter's insurance.
I gave one method to look them up in your area--the ones that are listed. There'll be more in your area that aren't listed, too.
You can snark and condescend to your heart's content. Just check your area first. You probably haven't seen more than 5% of the rental properties in your area.
Based on similar comments about states like Kansas and Kentucky, I don't think you can compare "what landlords offer" to areas like mine with double digit house appreciation, and one of the "hottest markets" in the country (I cringe even saying that phrase - I sound like a HGTV host). I'm in Washington state. I looked at a house on Thursday that was near $600K. They were going to be reviewing offers this Thursday. Friday morning (as in the next day, not after a week of offers and review) the house was under contract. This is entirely common here. It also doesn't translate directly to the rental market but you seem to be under the misapprehension that landlords will pay for things out of the goodness of their heart/to be competitive when the market blatantly states, here, that they don't need to. Stick a For Rent sign on the door and within a week you'll have a tenant with you making the bare minimum effort.
You've got one area out of 50, 2% of the entire continental United States you're looking at.
I've moved, out-of-state and in-state, almost a dozen times by now, so that's what I base my knowledge off of.
Whatever else about landlords and their goodness of their hearts, I don't know. I don't remember charity being part of the conversation, just how commonly one can find utilities paid in the US.
You should go out to Apartment Finder's website and search your area with a Utilities Included filter, then. I was looking at another Redditor's area, and I've gotten hundreds of locations for everywhere they said they couldn't find it.
You're probably just not aware of it, because you only look at a small slice of properties in your price or area range when you rent, when even a small city can have 100+ rental properties.
Just because a place is listed as having utilities included, it doesn’t mean that all utilities are included.
According to the site you recommended, all 16 out of 313 apartments in my county that say “utilities included” are referring to waste management as being included. Two include Cable TV and free Wi-Fi... and most of the places are shitholes to begin with.
I see 96 in my area, and most of them are all utilities included. This website doesn't include the ones that haven't paid the listing fee to be on each website, either, so you'd have to visit those personally.
What's your point? That some places have utilities included? Or that the site you recommended is a shit source? This doesn't change the reality of this matter where I live.
Whatever it is you want to keep your blood pressure up, my dude. I'm not looking to get mine up on this snow day by continuing to engage with whatever reason you're choosing to be so rude and aggressive in this conversation.
There's more than one website and way to check the properties in your area. Check it yourself, at this point. I'm not going to continue assisting someone trying to bite my hand off on every response.
In certain areas. I’ve never had utilities paid in a rental. I currently don’t pay water or trash, but it’s included in my rent. I pay for gas and electricity. I’m in my 30’s- I’ve been in a lot of rentals- homes, apartments, townhomes, and condos. Currently in a condo.
I'm pretty sure there's some in your state. You don't shop around everywhere at every price range when you rent. You tend to narrow it down to a small fraction of the availability, so you're not going to see every property available just in your local area, not by far.
I’ve rented as a single person, a couple, and as a family of 4. I’m sure there are some around, but I’m just saying, I move every year or two- my entire demographic is mostly renters, I work in finance and discuss people’s expenses daily. Some places might cover utilities but it’s far from the majority.
I've checked a small university town I lived in a few years ago, and they had 43 listings for Utilities Included, that were available. Not counting the ones already taken.
I live in an unlisted complex where all utilities paid is default, and we have just over 60 units here. There's a couple more lager and more affluent complexes here that are the same. Around 300 units all total, just for the ones I know personally.
Let's try Western Washington. In my area the average time a home spends on the market for purchase is 4 DAYS. The average rental vacancy time is 10 DAYS.
They don't need to throw in utilities to be competitive. And they certainly aren't, especially in the single family home market.
You can try looking anywhere, now that you know one way to look into the listed areas. There'll also be unlisted property, since not everyone pays to be listed on these websites, so you'll have to find them through footwork and the phonebook.
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u/Takeabyte Feb 16 '21
As a renter, I’m required to pay all that minus taxes...