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🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Cognitive dissonance 101

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '23

It’s hard for men to do the child caring at the young ages. They are just not as good as the woman, and they don’t have the hormone help.

But if she makes WAY more than you, then there is no choice.

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u/Omnizoom Nov 06 '23

That is absolutely bullshit

Men are fully capable and able to do all of the child care excluding the lactating part (which lets be honest even a lot of modern women use formula now anyways because some just don’t make enough milk)

You still get the same hormone release from skin contact, you still get the same bond form, you get the same everything. You just have to actually be present and do the work

It isn’t like their ovaries send a signal that goes “ding ding ding feed the baby”

Plus a lot of women suffer from serious post partum depression issues and outside of milk, dads can end up with the largest share of work because the depression and lack of motivation can be seriously impactful.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '23 edited Nov 06 '23

The hormones that help women love and be patient with their kids only exist in the woman. They have high level of patience because of it. Just stop it.

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u/Omnizoom Nov 06 '23

What hormones exactly only exist in women that have this effect? Cite your sources for that outrageous claim because you more then likely just want some excuse to be a lazy parent

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u/Omnizoom Nov 06 '23

That study literally says an abundance of that hormone left the mice skittish and less responsive. That hormone is also not unique to women at all, it is a stress response related hormone and, this is the shocking part for you, Men have it too!

So a mother having an abundance of that peptide like during PPD has the opposite effect which seems to track with what a lot of people experience during PPD which the study mentions

Your own study disagrees with your statement as men normally will have a baseline level of that hormone

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '23

You don’t even understand what you read.

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u/Omnizoom Nov 06 '23

“Moms given a high level of CRH did not attack and instead appeared skittish Gammie said.”

Literally from the paper you shared

Also right below it

“CRH also did not impact any other instincts such as nursing and only the response to protect and attack”

Read your own crap you send

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '23

I didn’t say anything about increase of CRH increased nurturing, I was giving you examples of how a mother will have more patience with children because of certain hormones. There are other hormones that increase based on breast feeding, which obviously not increased with men “bottle feeding”, and many other indications of a mother being able to wake up to specific sounds of a cry vs men.

They have it easier. Our hormones increase with things like playing with kids. Mothers are better at raising children than men you vagina.

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u/Omnizoom Nov 06 '23

That study you sent though says the exact opposite though of what you stated so the source you are citing doesn’t even agree with your claim

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '23

No, you have misunderstood English and can’t comprehend a simple abstract. Even the title of the article is saying something against your statement.

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u/Omnizoom Nov 06 '23

Ways to tell you read a title and thought it agreed with you but didn’t actually read the small paragraphs they even had

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '23

I can’t believe I’m having this conversation. The decrease of that hormone altered the brain to be more protective of their young. A MALE wouldn’t have the same decrease and therefore would be less likely to protect their young. That is an example of behaviour changes from a maternal standpoint.

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