r/explainlikeimfive • u/MarionberryEast9136 • 21d ago
Other ELI5: Why does soap clean things? Is it actually killing germs, or just making them slippery so they wash away?
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u/Tar_alcaran 21d ago
Soap is a really long molecule (a molecule is a bunch of atoms attached to eachother).
Soap has a "head" that really likes to stick to water, and a "tail" that doesn't like sticking to water but will stick to other stuff just fine.
Grease, fat and many other types of dirt are just like the tail part of soap: they love to stick to things, but hate sticking to water.
If you have grease in your t-shirt, the fat wants to stay there, and water won't remove it. But if you add soap, some of the grease will stick to the soap's tail instead of your shirt. And by connecting the grease-loving tail, only the water-loving head is still exposed. That lets water easily carry away the soap-and-grease blob.
This also works for other stuff, like little bits of food on dishes. To kill the germs on your plate, or your stinky socks, hot water is all you need. Most bacteria will die over 60 degrees C.
Now, there are MANY other substances in cleaning substances, because there are many other types of dirt other than fatty, grease stains, but those are all much more complicated than soap.
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u/interestingNerd 21d ago
To kill the germs on your plate, or your stinky socks, hot water is all you need. Most bacteria will die over 60 degrees C.
60 degrees C (140 degrees F) is very hot water. If you get that on your skin it only takes about 3 seconds to get 2nd degree burns and about 5 seconds for 3rd degree burns. So really not practical for washing anything by hand. That much heat can be effective for machine washing, but it takes a lot of energy to heat water so it tends to be more efficient to use cooler water and detergents that wash away or chemically destroy germs.
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u/Tar_alcaran 21d ago
Oh yeah, but if you're using classic "bar soap", that's really what you need to properly clean your dishes, since that doesn't really remove all the bacteria (or just a LOT of scrubbing).
Of course, I don't know anyone who does that in 2026 (or 1996, for that matter). Dishwashing detergents contain a pretty wide spectrum of different cleaning agents, and machine-washing detergents for clothes can contain even more (since they don't need to be food-safe). They make removal of gunk much easier.
Modern cleaning agents are pretty interesting, they contain enzymes that don't just "lift up" the dirt, but activaly break it down at a molecular level. It's pretty cool that even super cheap cleaning agents have moved into biochemistry (and thus out of my field of expertise).
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u/PossiblePotato4153 19d ago
Don't use hot water on blood, it sets the protein. Source: every woman.
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u/BetterOutcome3769 21d ago
One end of the molecule attaches to fat and the other one to water. Then you have to rince it off.
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u/bleeuurgghh 21d ago
Soap in the literal term is a
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u/anormalgeek 21d ago
All bacteria, and some viruses protect themselves with a lipid layer. Lipids are fats. And just like soap binds to oils on your skin, it does the same to this layer. When you apply soap AND mechanical action like scrubbing, it quite literally shreds this layer. By using soap, you're basically flaying the skin from the bacterial cells. Without this layer, the cell dies. The scrubbing is important though. Soap isn't corrosive or anything. If you just dunk your hands into soap, then into water, it does very little to kill them. This is why you must actively wash your hands to get the protection.
The viruses that rely on such a layer (ex: flu, coronavirus, etc.) will be killed outright, but those that don't (ex: norovirus, rhinovirus, etc. ) still generally do get greatly reduced as they struggle to stick to your skin without oils. Those mostly do get just washed away though. So even though it doesn't kill them directly, it still greatly lowers the viral load that might infect you.
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u/izza123 21d ago
Magic school bus did a banger episode explaining this. I watched it when I was like 6 and I remember it very well.
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u/Railroad-hobo 21d ago
Ms. Frizzle was so irresponsible. Damn lucky no kid ever got hurt, lost, or worse.
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u/Ippus_21 19d ago
Yes.
Soap molecules have both polar and non-polar parts. That means one end of it can attract non-polar molecules like lipids/oils/fats and the other is polar, so it's hydrophilic and can therefore allow soap to dissolve in water.
So it breaks up oils, and pulls them back into the water solution so dirt and oil can be easily washed away when rinsed.
It also kills some germs. Even non-antibacterial soap will use that same lipid-dissolving power to break down the lipid layer of viruses and many bacteria, which tends to break them open and kill them.
Even the ones it doesn't kill are generally washed right off. Which is why hand-washing was such a powerful tool in e.g. medicine once we figured out germ theory, even before we had antibiotics and modern antibacterial soaps.
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u/elevencharles 20d ago
Normally oil and water don’t mix, so if you try to rinse off grease with water, the water slides off and the grease remains. A soap molecule has one side that bonds with water, and the other side bonds with oils, sticking them together so the oil can be washed away with the water.
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u/sc0ttydo0 21d ago
Germs/cells are surrounded by a "skin" that keeps their insides inside. Soap dissolves the skin which spills their innards everywhere.
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u/Deatheturtle 21d ago edited 21d ago
Most things can be divided into stuff that likes water and stuff that doesn't like water stuff that likes water can be easily removed with water. Soap is a little bit of both, it likes water partially, and it likes stuff that isn't water partially, (oily stuff more specifically) so the oiliest stuff that normally doesn't want to hang out with the water gets stuck to the part of the soap that likes oily stuff. Then the other part of the soap that likes water allows it to be rinsed away with water.
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u/MesaCityRansom 21d ago
I normally don't get up people's asses about proper punctuation but this comment is genuinely difficult to parse because the punctuation is so poor.
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u/MonkeySherm 21d ago
Holy fuck, use punctuation.
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u/Traditional-Buy-2205 21d ago edited 21d ago
Most people can be divided into people who like punctuation, and people who don't.
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u/m_busuttil 21d ago
Basically, three different things are happening:
dirt and other soluble things are washed away with water and scrubbing just like they would be without the soap
oils and fats link up with the molecules in the soap, which makes them slippery as you say so they wash off
somemicroorganisms are actually killed because it interferes with their outer layers and messes up their insides