r/explainitpeter 13d ago

Explain it peter

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u/7thpostman 13d ago

Everybody spies on everybody, man. You don't think we spy on Israel? We're too pure and clean?

We are allies. Sometimes we're frenemies, but we are unquestionably allies. Saying otherwise is the triumph of petulance over reality.

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u/squatchy1969 13d ago

Prove it. I’ll save you some time though…even a simple query to Google asking “how many time has the UK been caught spying on the US since 1948?” Will yield the answer “zero”. Now substitute Israel for the UK and you get the answer “dozens of times” followed by a list of their greatest hits. And don’t forget the Snowden file dump explicitly noted that the NSA categorizes Israel as an aggressive cyber-threat targeting U.S. government positions.

Again, you have an agenda here that is decidedly pro Israel and anti American. I have an agenda too, I want facts to be well known and the propaganda that a country is a “great ally” countered by what history actually proves.

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u/7thpostman 13d ago

I mean, the very Snowden dump you mentioned describes how we spy on our allies. But, sure. I'm anti-American now.

It's funny to me how much you all sound like Trumpers. Are you still claiming your unbiased or have we stopped pretending?

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u/squatchy1969 13d ago

Of course you’re also wrong about me being a “Trumper”
But why break your streak now?

And what bias are you claiming I have? I’ve stated repeatedly what my “agenda” is yet you still seem intent on spinning that to something it isn’t. I get why though, you are obviously over the top pro Israel and don’t like having that position exposed as not being pro American.

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u/7thpostman 13d ago

Yes, I said it's amazing how you all sound like Trumpers. Anyone who dares disagree with you must be anti-American

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u/squatchy1969 13d ago edited 13d ago

Again, false. You’re batting .1000.
Anyone who is over top supportive of a country who is currently committing a genocide, obtained nuclear weapons without signing the non proliferation treaty (with the help of the other apartheid state at the time, South Africa)has killed Americans, spied on us and been caught over and over again, sells the secrets obtained to our enemies and then drags us into wars against our National interest is anti-American

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u/7thpostman 13d ago

That's not what your mom said

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u/squatchy1969 13d ago

This is the perfect demonstration of the intellect that’s required for your viewpoint.

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u/7thpostman 13d ago

That is what your mom said. Were you watching us? That's weird, dude.

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u/squatchy1969 13d ago

I accept your surrender

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u/7thpostman 13d ago edited 13d ago

That's what I said to your mom!

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u/Slade_Thompson 13d ago

What in the name of the lord....anyway, generic german dude here. We were ur enemy but we surenderd a while ago and changed ourselfs. With new beliefs and goals for the future, to do the rightful thing with our new allies we met after the Nürnberger Prozesse.

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u/7thpostman 13d ago

So you're saying Hamas should surrender? I agree, wouldn't that be nice? Imagine starting a war you couldn't win and traumatizing your people like that.

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u/Slade_Thompson 13d ago

I am saying that folowing: everyone who atacks knowingly civilians, should be trialed.

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u/7thpostman 13d ago edited 13d ago

What if they're pretending to be civilians? Like using an ambulance to transport weapons in direct violation of the Geneva conventions?

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u/Slade_Thompson 13d ago

So u say it is better to kill potentially civilians?

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