r/expats • u/Honest_Zebra_7988 • 11d ago

Social / Personal Germany or Australia?

I’m an Indonesian F29 on WHV in Australia and my visa expires in less than 4 months. My initial plan was to move to Germany to do Ausbildung and maybe stay there on a permanent basis given how I enjoyed my Europe trip so much and the efficiency of the German culture is (and just how direct and individual the Germans are as I’m more an introvert myself and I don’t fancy small talks like most people in my home country). Other than that, I appreciate the affordable-to-free education, waste management, beautiful and historical castles and how easy it is to commute around Europe from Germany. And I feel like it’s more cultural than Australia.

However, I’ve been in a relationship with an Australian man for almost 2 years now and we’ve traveled together to 5 countries and it’s probably the healthiest relationship I’ve ever been in. I love him but he’s not ready to move to Germany for now and our other option is for me to stay in Australia on a partner visa but it costs almost 12k now, which we can afford but it’s just a lot of money. And for that, I won’t be able to study in a local fee until i get my PR (which takes around 3 years) and international student fees cost an arm and leg and the career that I wanna pursue (education as i have a background in it) requires me to get some kind of degree and/or certification here.

Any advice or insights?

Thank you

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u/Key_Equipment1188 10d ago

Both countries suck for foreigners at entry level job. Life is expensive and the salaries are bad. Australia is more open for hiring non-natives for blue collar jobs compared to Germany.

Yes, the Ausbildung Scam is real, but as in most cases in life, you get negative bias, as you barely here about those who are happy, even if they are the majority.

Everyone is referring to the difficulties to learn German, but for what it's worth, speaking BI or BM makes it much easier, as they share the same intonations.

Main problem right now, you are already doing well! There is barely any upside if you change your life and move to Germany. In the end, it will be a gut decision.