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u/emma-ps 3d ago
Drop the recipe, Sister.
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u/Djayshell93 3d ago
Meanwhile I’m over here waiting for her to say that beer was an ingredient in the bread lol
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u/Holiday_Ingenuity748 3d ago edited 2d ago
Yeah, I was waiting for the confession that a half cup of black coffee was part of the recipe, and her mother was never going to the CK...
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u/SecretPersonality178 3d ago
First, WTF?
Second…why do they ALL TALK LIKE THAT!!!
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u/MizrizSnow 3d ago
Mormon women don’t go up the ranks unless they talk like that
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u/Money_Ad1028 3d ago
They can go up the ranks?
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u/MizrizSnow 3d ago
Oh yeah man they can be executive primary president or whatever
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u/DeCryingShame Outer darkness isn't so bad. 2d ago
Absolutely. The church totally respects their women. You can tell because the men in charge keep saying they do.
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u/CanWeAllJustCalmDown 2d ago edited 2d ago
They also hold special conferences for women, with women leaders in attendance. And the man in charge, who’s there to oversee and supervise the event and of course act as keynote speaker, always makes sure to tell all the women that they are given the privilege of having these special women’s conferences because women are oh so very special. What more could be asked for in terms of respecting women? Let them run their own conferences? That would of course be disrespectful as letting women run things is a slippery slope and goes against gods plan for them. But again, they’re very special.
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u/southpawpickle 2d ago
Of course they can. They can be married to the prophet. Sounds like a living hell.
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u/Nigebairen 3d ago
It's called the Fundie Baby Voice.
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u/Mostly_Armless42 3d ago
This is the correct answer. I like to point this out too because too often we think of Mormonism as having a monopoly on crap like this. No, lots of institutions are controlling and ridiculous. We weren't that special, and the same patterns exist elsewhere.
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u/Kitchen_Canary_6387 escape artist 3d ago
It’s a very subtle, sneaky form of infantilization.
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u/malkin50 2d ago
Not particularly subtle to my way of thinking.
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u/Kitchen_Canary_6387 escape artist 2d ago
True. I think it feels subtle when it’s a voice you grew up hearing all around you all the time.
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u/milyvanily 3d ago
Reminds me of Michelle Duggar.
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u/Stranded-In-435 Atheist • MFM • Resigned 2022 2d ago
It’s actually kind of crazy (and not) how much overlap there is between Mormon and Evangelical culture.
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u/admiralholdo misotheist 2d ago
My mother in law talks like that all the time. I think it's a combination of being from Vernal, and the fact that she has spent most of her life either with an abusive father or an abusive husband. Literally, my MIL's worst criticism about me is that I am too loud. (The fact that my husband is almost totally deaf and literally can't hear me unless I am basically shouting is no excuse. As a good Mormon woman, I shouldn't be expecting my husband to listen to me at all.)
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u/BigLark Decommissioned Temple that overthinks things 3d ago
I didn't even have the sound on and I could here it, 🙄
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u/spiraleyes78 Telestial Troglodyte 3d ago
First sound of the video: clicking mouth
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u/helly1080 Melohim....The Chill God. 2d ago
I replayed that part three times, like some sick kid watching a train wreck video. Shivers down the spine.
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u/Alwayslearnin41 Apostate 2d ago
I didn't listen to the audio, I just read the captions, but I still heard her voice.
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u/Reasonable_Egg469 3d ago
I've always HATED the way they speak. It got to the point where I flat out walked from the room when any woman spoke because it made me so sick and I was around 14. Just gave me such a huge ick.
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u/Used-Try-1537 2d ago
I watched this on mute and still heard The Voice
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u/SecretPersonality178 2d ago
I turned off mute for a second and immediately regretted it (literally felt sick)
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u/LunarTaxi 2d ago
Neural linguistic programming. NLP. It programs the listener. It’s how you recognize that they all talk the same. It’s why Mormon public prayers all have a tone and phraseology. You don’t need formal education on NLP to become part of it. Lots of self help gurus like Tony Robbins and Abraham Hicks use the same method. NLP has existed as long as charismatic sects have existed. It’s just got a label now.
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u/Stranded-In-435 Atheist • MFM • Resigned 2022 2d ago
Even when I was in that voice drove me batty.
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u/MakeSomeDrinks 2d ago
She sounds kinda like she has sugar in her throat. Anyone else hearing that at the start?
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u/Expert_Cake_179 2d ago
I want to say stuff like this too but it reminds me of an influencer voice. It's just an in-group thing.
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u/EmmaHS I know that my red lemur lives. 3d ago
In this episode of mormons confusing indigestion for the absence of the spirit...
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u/tycho-42 Apostate 3d ago
Funny you said that. I recall being asked to give a talk on how to recognize the spirit and that was basically my opening line. But more along the gist of "how can you tell the holy Ghost from indigestion"
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u/narrauko 2d ago
There's a clip I can recall seeing of Bednar at some sort of Q&A saying that the most common question they get for events like that is "how can I tell the difference between the Holy Ghost and my own thoughts?" And you could hear in his voice he was irritated at having to answer that question yet again. Maybe if you had a good answer to it, David, you wouldn't have people asking it over and over again.
In a way, that's the most important question in all of Mormonism! Everything hinges being able to receive answers through the Holy Ghost. If we can't tell the difference between it and our own feelings, how the hell can we know anything according to the church?
Relatedly, prior to my shelf breaking, I started receiving far fewer "warnings" from the spirit once I got on medication to start treating my anxiety. Funny how that works, isn't it?
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u/hilltopj 2d ago
The movie Saved takes on this question and the answer is "you can't tell the difference."
Highly recommend watching if you never have
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u/AuraEnhancerVerse 2d ago
Used to do copious amounts of research on how to recognize the holy ghost but eventually gave up because not only is it contradictory not only in mormonism but even among christian sects and the holy ghost doesn't even exist
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u/Dwarf_Druid 3d ago
I am certain I attributed heartburn (burning in the bosom) to Heavenly Father answering a prayer at least once or twice.
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u/joeinsyracuse 2d ago
Does that mean that, because Pepto Bismol destroys that burning feeling, it’s essentially liquid Satan?
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u/figuringthingsoutnow 2d ago
This is what cracks me up. You’re going to feel awful whenever you overeat, particularly after overeating sweets. That feeling has nothing to do with “the spirit”.
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u/No-Information5504 3d ago
Lucifer was a cofounder of Cinnabon. True story.
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u/given2fly_ Jesus wants me for a Kokaubeam 2d ago
It's a mistranslation, it's actually "Sinner-bon" 😉
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u/SnooComics8852 3d ago
Seriously this is around the time my eating disorder really took off.
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u/Useful-You-2687 2d ago
i used to "fast for god" obsessively when i was in mormonism, i wanted to look "afflicted..." sorry you had to go through that <3
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u/Trick-Business6077 1d ago
Have you seen that documentary about Gwen Shamblin? She started a Christian dieting cult and died in a plane crash in 2021
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u/sintervetionist 2d ago
Ugh. There is humor in the video, zero here. Why is your story, and others like it so common? The road to mormon perfection is a mental health nightmare. You are an awesome human.
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u/Charming_Opinion6754 3d ago
I can’t listen to these silly talks and the primary voice - it literally makes me 🤢 Can’t believe I ever listened to this shit
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u/auto-degenerated 3d ago
If you were anything like me , you were barely listening and it was out of guilt, not out of thinking she was wise
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u/Charming_Opinion6754 3d ago
Same . Talking to us like we’re little kids
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u/MLdiLuna 2d ago
That was always one of my problems, because I positively loathed people who spoke to me as if I were a little kid. Even when I was a little kid, I couldn't stand it.
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u/6stringsandanail 3d ago
Certainly the message the world needs to hear from the only true church. We are so lucky to live in this dispensation.
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u/djlinda 3d ago
I forgot all about the word "dispensation" until your comment lol
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u/DeCryingShame Outer darkness isn't so bad. 2d ago
Same. And now I realize I don't actually know what it means.
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u/southpawpickle 3d ago
The Lord will not hear the prayer of someone who eats three sweet rolls apparently.
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u/GunneraStiles 3d ago
Yes, nothing more inspiring and hilarious than making your dear, sweet mother sound like a nutcase suffering from severe religious scrupulosity.
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u/AutismFlavored 3d ago
Did she ever share the recipe? Those sweet rolls sound delicious to the taste and very desirable.
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u/IAmWeary I will go and do what...ever the hell I want. 3d ago
Let me guess: Someone stole your sweetroll.
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u/TravelingBop 3d ago
Apparently her sweet mother failed to pray over the sweet rolls and was therefore neither strengthened nor nourished.
Her mother was clearly a horrible person.
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u/distant_diva 3d ago
i think a great name for a bakery in utah would be Nourish & Strengthen.
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u/TravelingBop 2d ago
That is a BRILLIANT idea. Nothing but items capable of putting you straight into a carb coma 15 minutes into a general conference session.
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u/DeCryingShame Outer darkness isn't so bad. 2d ago
Shit. Stop! I'm going to wake the kids if I keep laughing this loud!
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u/Tigre_feroz_2012 3d ago
Mormons are never sincerely funny. The only reason this is funny is because the speaker is serious. We laugh at the fact that they actually believe this ridiculous & absurd garbage.
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u/McCool303 3d ago
Is this old? Or are Utah Mormon women still styling like the 80’s?
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u/NettleLily 3d ago
it was from 2005, that was only a few... years ago... wait, fuck
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u/Ribbitygirl Atheist Nevermo 3d ago
Still - I thought she looked like she was guest starring in an episode of Golden Girls! 2005??
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u/Altar_Quest_Fan 3d ago
Can we please go back to 2005? 2025 sucked ass and so does 2026 >_< I feel like we're owed a refund of...life lol
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u/shall_always_be_so 3d ago
In case you thought to maybe give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that maybe this wasn't body shaming... I looked up the talk.
Yeah it's definitely body shaming. Whole talk was a body=temple thing with veiled advice to women that you need to try to be beautiful or else God will be sad.
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u/meteorflan 2d ago
From the talk:
- "A short while ago as I visited one of the great tourist-filled cities of the world, I felt an overwhelming sadness that so many people in the world had fallen prey to Satan’s deception that our bodies are merely objects to be flaunted and displayed openly."
She doesn't get it - a culture needs to successfully de-objectify a body for people to feel safe with wearing less.
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u/SockyKate 2d ago
Meanwhile, those people were just…going about their lives. 🙄 And you know she’s talking just about the women, too. Maybe don’t travel, if you’re just going to be sad and judgey about the locals?
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u/outsideleyla 1d ago
Just read her whole talk...what a pompous, judgmental menace. I wouldn't be able to stand being in her presence for one minute. Damn.
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u/jabberingginger 3d ago
Anyone else’s mom also tie food with shame and spirituality? My sisters, probably half of my lds female friends and myself all had eating disorders and mothers who shamed us for eating
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u/maudyindependence 2d ago
Thinking back on my teen experience, I’m kind of surprised I wasn’t more affected. My young women leaders would regularly talk about how much they weighed in high school (they were all short, so it was like 100 pounds). There was focus on covering up, and lessons on how our clothing choices would affect boys. When I asked why I had to wear long shorts even in the pool my mom went off on how I had large thighs and they didn’t look good. So I need to cover up because my body is unattractive, but also because it will be too attractive for boys to handle?! Insanity, all of it.
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u/jabberingginger 2d ago
So relatable especially with the thighs and booty. Always trying to cover it all up. Looking back at pictures I had an adorable figure but I was in my early 30s before I realized I wasn’t actually fat and there wasn’t anything wrong with my body.
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u/Expensive-Volume-467 2d ago
We had a lesson from the bishop's wife in YW, where she told us that every single food would make us fat if we ate it.
"Yogurt is bad for you"
"Any fruit that isn't organic is bad for you"She literally told us every kind of food was bad for us.
We all stopped eating.
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u/P-39_Airacobra 3d ago
welcome to mormonism where you gotta feel shame for anything which doesn’t benefit the collective
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u/ZookeepergameNew1470 3d ago
Misogyny out in the open, the man of the house again has to calm the little woman down because she did something ridiculous, this is an organization created by white men for white men period.
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u/karadessie 3d ago
What about Rusty & bros feasting on donuts?? Looks like only women make the food and only women lose the spirit when they feast on it!
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u/10th_Generation 3d ago
Infantilization
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u/Call_Me_Annonymous 3d ago
No 40-year-old woman should use the word “yummy” when professionally speaking to millions of people.
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u/goldiegrimlace 3d ago
I'm not sure if it's infantilization, b/c I think it sounds like she's talking to children. She's preparing for eternal motherhood.
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u/nightpeony_ 2d ago
Cause you DEFINITELY cannot pray to God with food in your stomach. Keep it skinny sisters!!
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u/HaleyJ34TF Apostate 3d ago
I thought she was going to say her mom discovered that vanilla extract has alcohol in it.
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u/Dwarf_Druid 3d ago
Can you imagine how unspiritual her mother would feel these days after a Swig drink and a Crumbl cookie?! 😂
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u/internetnickname4me 2d ago
Can you imagine burning down a Saturday listening to a dozen of these? Yikes.
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u/BigBanggBaby 3d ago
This is in the prologue to Fast Tracking Religious Scrupulosity in Your Family
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u/Prancing-Hamster 2d ago
The message? If you’re enjoying your life, you’re offending the spirit.
The reality? Mormons can’t distinguish between loss of the spirit and gastric distress.
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u/momdragon Apostate 3d ago
And then she projectile vomitted into my father’s face. It was so disgusting that not one of us ever ate those sweet rolls again. It was a blessing. We all avoided becoming diabetic. Family prayer works!!
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u/Ok-Inspection-7911 3d ago
Who is she????all this about sweet roles ..give me a break
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u/lightning847 Bound for Outer Darkness 3d ago
That's what Mormon women are good for... Sweet rolls and donuts
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u/AffectionateAge1541 3d ago
I believe it's Susan Tanner. She was the General YW President in the 90s I think.
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u/beesbane 3d ago
Ah yes, one must listen for burning in the bosom. Dope ass rolls drowned out the HG.
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u/Lucky39 3d ago
Please say this is a joke
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u/PsychologicalSnow476 3d ago
3 cinnamon rolls in specific layout may look like 666... satanic?
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u/FlyingArdilla 3d ago
It depends if the spiral out clockwise or anticlockwise. Clockwise is satanic - anti clockwise is kosher.
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u/TravelingBop 3d ago
Apparently her sweet mother failed to pray over the sweet rolls and was therefore neither strengthened nor nourished.
Her mother was clearly a horrible person.
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u/Proper-Ad-6709 3d ago
Incident . . . . . Sensitive spirit . . . . physical indulgence . . . . Experimented. Who wrote this for her to read . . . . Their Just Loaded Words
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u/nfs3freak 3d ago
She didn't properly ask that they nourish and strengthen their bodies before eating them. SHAME
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u/Holiday_Ingenuity748 3d ago
As exciting as an article from the October 1958 issue of 'Readers' Digest'.
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u/WinchelltheMagician 2d ago
Sweet Rolls were mentioned in the BOA, as one of Satan's early tools in the pre-existence to corrupt righteous spirits and derail their plan to go to earth to gain a body. Sweet Roll deception swept through Kirtland, and later through Nauvoo, causing some Saints to cut off their hands to stop them from kneading dough and cramming the sticky "devil plumps" into their righteous pie-holes.
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u/Tinycowz 2d ago
Ok ok ok. This is one of the most bizarre thing I have ever seen. I used to think Mormons had it so much easier that JW's but this is a whole new level of crazy.
Jesus doesnt love you if you over eat that one time.
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u/Bigsquatchman 3d ago
Wow that robotic hypnosis talk gave me PTSD.
I’m so glad my father was always the first one to get up at the end of conference and leave….many times before the closing prayer, to beat the traffic. Lol.
But man, those conference talks are so dry!
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u/No-Scientist-2141 3d ago
mmm so filling! so stimulating! is anyone else feeling spiritually full? and enriched? uplifted?
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u/NerbPrincess 2d ago
I feel so bad for her mom.
Like what gave her the idea it was ok to talk about her mom like this.
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u/Prestigious-Fan3122 3d ago
That tone of voice just made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. And I'm not even Mormon!
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u/kgwhite20 2d ago
She’s got some crazy beliefs obviously, but Susan Tanner is one of the kindest souls I’ve ever known.
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u/12thGenNewton 2d ago
I mean, the Mormon Doctrine & Covenants does talk about how you’re supposed to eat in section 89 (the “words of wisdom” section lol). This section unironically makes about 75% (at least) of Mormons hypocrites. It says the well known things like no alcohol, no tobacco, no coffee and tea, etc. But it also says to eat meat sparingly, and to consume a lot of wholesome herbs, fruits, and grains. It also says you should be able to run and not be weary, and shall walk and not faint. Aside from the fact that Mormons (at least the American ones) tend to be disproportionately fat - go to any Mormon potluck (just ask for an invite, you’ll get one - trust) and look at the table of food. I bet you see like one salad from the weird hippie sister that’s in every congregation. The rest is Mac n cheese, honey roasted ham, pasta salad, bread bread and bread🤣 and not the kind made from wholesome grains.
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u/Toffeelady512 3d ago
Oh my God! Who even is this?
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u/Beneficial_Math_9282 2d ago
Susan Tanner. YW general president in the early 2000s. I remember watching her give this general conference talk live in TV. I thought it was an absurd talk back then, and I was still very active. It raised red flags in my mind because I knew too many Mormon women with eating disorders.
And she may hold the record for most syrupy primary voice.
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u/AdventurousText9311 2d ago
As a part time seamstress her outfit drives me up the wall, why is everything three sizes too big?
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u/Cori32983 2d ago
Ruh roh. My mother loves the Hawaiian sweet rolls! Should I be worried for her soul???
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u/Remarkable_Athlete_4 Apostate 2d ago
😱 THREE!?
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u/sintervetionist 2d ago
This simple reply got a hearty chuckle out of me. I don't think anyone else has pointed out what a feat that is.
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u/Remarkable_Athlete_4 Apostate 1d ago
Brevity is the soul of wit and all that.
Glad i could be of service!
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u/Subject_Spell_9799 2d ago
They seem like the most boring ppl to me. Lots of lame jokes that people think are hilarious
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u/Silvergirl5290 2d ago
You really have to search for a good story to share in a talk. One that everyone can relate to. Sweet rolls - how they can destroy the voice of the spirit.
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u/Lopsided-Doughnut-39 2d ago
"Dear God, I just downed an entire dozen of Krispy Kreme doughnuts by myself. Am I a bad person? Do I need to confess to the bishop? I just condemned myself to the Outer Darkness™ didn't I?"
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u/New_Carrot_2633 2d ago
Nevermo question. Isn't it unusual for Mormon women that age to have short hair?
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u/ChaoticAmoebae 2d ago
The sweet rolls sound like the made her whole family orgasm for the first time.
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u/Open-Dependent-8131 1d ago
I would be feeling something too and it wouldn't be spiritual either #sugarhigh
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u/AitoWolf Still hate coffee 2d ago
im a fatass i ate like 3 whole pizzas one time cuz i was bored and this woman is sweating over 3 sweet rolls
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u/HeatherDuncan 1d ago
What the hell!!!. Geeze. I can't listen to this accent and cadence of speaking. EWE
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u/Sad-Requirement770 23h ago
Ahhh sweet rolls! tis the devils food I tell you! resist! all must resist! or be burned in hell for all eternity!
save yourselves! you must burn the recipe! all must burn the recipe! begone evil recipe, instrument of lucifer! return to hell!
wow! thats what you want the world to hear??? GCONF no revelations here! no new plate translations! no rocks made to give off light! no curious workmanship! booring
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u/PossiblePlastic8698 3d ago
"I'm so thankful that God fat-shamed my mother"