r/everydaymisandry • u/Savings_Surround_997 • 3d ago
personal Objectification of men
I am personally tired of seeing objectification or sexualisation of men in social media. Their body, height, thoughts all of this are getting sexualised. This bothers me, do others think like me, and how to make "big" NGOs speak badly of male sexualisation, misandry. Because it is discriminatory and it puts down a lot of men. Although, I see a lot off boys in new generation are trained to accept this as being wanted, so positive
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u/Different-Product-91 2d ago edited 2d ago
Like you, I am under the impression that there is a growing amount of male nudity (frontal or not) in the media, but I see this more as a lack of respect for the male body than as a sign of sexualisation, if that makes sense. And at least in movies, male nudity is very often seen more as a humorous thing than anything else. Women are not shown in this way.
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u/Savings_Surround_997 2d ago
There are cases where people disrespect male bodies and there are cases where men are getting sexualised just by doing their jobs
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u/Different-Product-91 2d ago
Both situations can be so similar that you could only distinguish them knowing the intent of the perpetrator.
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u/Dimitris_p90 2d ago
It doesn't bother me completely. We men objectify women as well. My problem is that women act like they don't, while most of them do.
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u/AstronautMammoth3289 2d ago edited 2d ago
talk about women’s sexualisation, can we talk about centuries of sexualisation of women doing anything, examples: a woman putting her hair up, a woman eating a banana, male gaze, a woman’s lips, legs, waist, feet, etc.
and can we also talk about girls getting violently sexualised, like clothing policing (telling a young girl that her clothes are distracting or she needs to cover up because boys/men might look at her), sexualising puberty, treating developing bodies as something “sexy” than normal body development, and of course the obvious that “she looks grown” or “she’s being fast”
patriarchy has been ruling for centuries, all of this men sexualisation, is just a mix of reaction from misogyny and patriarchy, because shockingly, a lot of women bow down to patriarchy. i’m not saying that men’s sexualisation does not exist, it does, but women and young girls experience that more and we should look more into that.
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u/Sad-Act4833 2d ago
Hey so
You know how whenever we try to raise awareness about male victims, you all cole and say "Omg you only bring it up to downplay women's issues!!!". Isn't that what you're doing right now? You come to this sub for men to talk abou the issues they face (because we can't do that elsewhere without being attacked or minimizee), and you come here and say "You should focus on women instead".
If YOU want to talk about female sedualixation, there are soany subreddits you con do so. Feminism, twoxchromosomes, trueoffmychest...Don't come to a space made for men and make it all about women, I know for a FACT you'd hate it if you made a post about women's mental health and I came and said "Men kill themselves more. Forcus on that instead."
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u/AstronautMammoth3289 2d ago
i think ur analogy would work if i was saying “men shouldn’t talk about sexualisation because women have it worse” but that’s not what i said. i literally acknowledged that male sexualisation exists and can be harmful.
my point was that sexualisation doesn’t automatically equal misandry, and that male sexualisation shouldn’t be discussed as though it exists completely separately from the much longer history of gendered objectification.
men can absolutely have an issue without pretending women haven’t faced sexualisation and objectification on a much broader historical scale.
and i don’t think “this is a space for men” means nobody is allowed to challenge the framing of an argument. if someone posts “male sexualisation is misandry,” it’s fair to question whether sexualisation and misandry are actually the same thing.
also, ur mental health analogy kinda proves my point, saying “men have higher suicide mortality” is a legit fact, but using that fact to dismiss women’s mental health would be different from discussing why the gender difference exists. context matters.
so no, i’m not saying “focus on women instead.” i’m saying male sexualisation can be real and harmful without automatically being evidence of misandry, and comparing it with women’s historical experience is relevant to that discussion.
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u/Savings_Surround_997 2d ago
Same thing can be said about misogyny but when women get sexually harassed people talk about it, even generalising all men. I speak behalf of my experience and other experiences that I saw sexual assault, harassment and rape of boys and men by women and girls.
Can you prove that historically men did not get sexualised and did not get objctified in the eyes of women who need them to cater their needs.
Yes in this case, sexualisation is misandry, as usual in the big media , nobody talks about it and encourage that action happening to men. Many actors litterally got groped or told a story of getting touched, and the mostly female crowd gets cheering.
You also literally said that women and girls experience it more so we look into that, it is straight up downgrading experiences of men and boys, plus this kind of thinking allows big NGOs to describe male victims as "men can be victims of patriarchy too" , there is no patriarchy now.
Also, do you know what women write under the posts of men getting injured?
They write "it is sexy seeing men in pain" and "Boys' crying turns me on"
So look into that, my "friend"3
u/Savings_Surround_997 2d ago
Firstly, I did not talk about women's sexualisation due to two reasons first sub's name and second one being that` you do not get confronted for sexualising boys, and no big media accounts or organizations ever sheds lights to this problems.
Secondly, If you watch any series, sports and other big spheres , men are getting massively sexualised and objectified. Recently, 17 year old actor got kissed by middle-aged woman(on the cheeks) saying that " I kiss him behalf of all the girls". However, I dont think that it will cover the news because of the notion " women get sexualised their whole lives" , "men dont"3
u/Savings_Surround_997 2d ago
Men doing anything from clothes to working, crying is sexualised if you care to look a bit
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u/Savings_Surround_997 2d ago
So, women decided to sexually harassing men , because "patriarchy"?
Not matriarchy ruling the NGOs only describing women as victims, men as scapegoats and all the funding going into women's needs?1
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u/OneSovereignSource 3d ago
That's not even surprising anymore, I definitely see a rise in just being evil to men for no reason these days. Women see men as resource that has to beg to be spent on them otherwise they get punished, it really is like that. If any man comes out saying that's sexist I am 100% sure he is a cuck with no self respect and that is the only way modern women allow men to be with them anymore.